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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:56 pm

    If this continues, then in a month the Ukrainian Armed Forces will run out of Abrams

    Today, the third American main battle tank M1A1 "Abrams", 31 units of which the United States transferred to Kiev last year, was destroyed today near Berdychi.

    Moreover, the destruction of American tanks belonging to the 47th mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which it cherished like the apple of its eye until the last moment, is almost a daily routine. I repeat, this is the third tank (first the caterpillar was destroyed by an RPG, and then the immobilized tank was finished off by FPV drones).

    Plus, as a result of the battles for Berdychi, two M1150 mine clearing vehicles (created on the basis of the same Abrams) were already destroyed, an unknown number of which was also transferred to the 47th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    Big losses. If this continues, then in a month the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Abrams will run out. Although, most likely even earlier. These three were just destroyed. We don’t know for sure how many were hit or broken.

    https://t.me/intelslava/55702

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:57 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 155th Marine Brigade planted a flag in the center of Novomikhailovka

    https://t.me/intelslava/55703

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    Post  Hole Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:24 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54 - Page 13 T9425310
    Burning Breacher

    As ever be informed, not entertained.
    If it were Russians discussing an attack on some German bridges, nobody would give a shit about context.
    The reaction would be: New sanctions!

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:26 pm

    3 M1A1s and 3 more logistics/support vehicles based on its chassis eliminated, Russia seems to have taken the operational initiative along the front, at least in Donetsk, and all unterscharfuehrer Hausenpfeffer can talk about is an alleged "massive" attack on Crimea. Okay, not that I care but what did the lolwaffle hit in Crimea that makes this latest commemorative postage stamp attack so game changing? Oh you mean nothing changes at the front and at times no matter how hard you try to prevent it, rockets, drones, and planes will occassionally get through? Yeah, Russian air defense may have had a bad night. However, even Ukraine's best day is far worse than Russia's worst.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:05 pm

    Тоби айоделе -Tboy🇳🇬🇷🇺
    @TobiAyodele

    🇷🇺🇺🇦🇫🇷French AASM-250 gliding bombs were first used by Ukrainian aviation to strike the Avdiivka coke plant, controlled by the Russian Armed Forces.

    Ukrainian sources report this. Previously it was believed that the American JDAM-ER aerial bomb was used for the attacks.

    Let us recall that earlier the Minister of the French Armed Forces Sebastien Lecornu stated that from January 2024 it is planned to supply 50 AASM bombs to Ukraine every month.

    And already at the end of February, speaking before the commission on issues of the French National Assembly, Lecornu added that Ukrainian MiG-29 and Su-24M aircraft were modernized for these aerial bombs.

    The French AASM Hammer family consists of bombs weighing 250, 500 and 1000 kg with the ability to install rocket boosters and various target guidance systems.

    Military Informant

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:13 pm

    Russia at the end of this could start arming separatists in Corsica and in the south of Gallia.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:18 pm

    why wait?

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:49 pm

    https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1
    Damn... did russia really lose 2,774 tanks?
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:04 am


    Yeah

    Just last week



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    Post  PhSt Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:08 am

    https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1
    Damn... did russia really lose 2,774 tanks?

    There is a reason why NATzO countries are scraping the barrel for all Soviet/Russian tanks and armored vehicles to get sent to the Ukraine, so that every loss on the side of the Ukrainians can simply be classified as Russian casualties. Laughing

    Now they cant do the same modus operandi with Western vehicles like the Abrams and Leopards

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:20 am

    kvs wrote:I wonder if that Abrams lost the track all on its own. It is an overweight wunderwaffen that has had track loss problems for as long as it has been around.
    The crew appears to have escaped judging by the open hatches so there may have been no knock out.

    Lets hope so. The kids like to play on the tanks that are in original condition rather than repaired wrecks. It just more fun that way. Razz

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:47 am

    thegopnik wrote:Damn... did russia really lose 2,774 tanks?

    I really hope this is just a rhetorical question... Oryx was a propaganda op from its first breath and remained so throughout. The best advice to ignore everything that comes out of the Western social media or MSM zones.

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    Post  lancelot Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:54 am

    Oryx is Bellingcat which is Western intelligence propaganda.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:59 am

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    I assume they will merely stand there and do nothing which is all they need to do, Chances are they are calling Putin's bluff, I could be wrong but I do not think Putin will let the military fire on official foreign forces unless attacked first...


    That would be best case scenario for Russia and a death sentence for those poor slobs

    Standing and doing nothing in Ukraine in 2023 in not the same thing as standing and doing nothing in Syria in 2016

    This is NATO's bluff not Putin's

    Outside of NATO turf they immediately become all you can slap buffet

    They'd get spit roasted with everything up to and maybe including nukes with no way of responding

    If Putin would back off in case of NATO intervention in Urine then thats a death sentence for 250 thousands of Russian citizens in Transnistria. Not to mention NATO bases still as close to Russia as before 2022. I don't think this time Putin can bluff really

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:20 am

    There will be no more Minsk style compromises. NATzO is making sure that Russia goes for the maximal option. The only question is
    whether westernmost Ukria will be rolled over or will be left for NATzO. It makes sense to take everything to Transnistria and north.
    This means both sides of the Dnepr River and Kiev are included.

    Micron and pals are hoping that Russia will chicken out if they "intervene", but they are delusional.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:21 am

    Oryx is Bellingcat which is Western intelligence propaganda.

    Those 3000 tanks numbers come from open sources: Ukrainian, British, Latvian, Lithuanian, or American free press. So, I reckon they're legit.  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil

    I'm sure they also include damaged tanks, armored carriers (including tigr or MT-LB), then multiplied by some random number from the author's head.




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    There will be no more Minsk style compromises. NATzO is making sure that Russia goes for the maximal option. The only question is
    whether westernmost Ukria will be rolled over or will be left for NATzO. It makes sense to take everything to Transnistria and north.
    This means both sides of the Dnepr River and Kiev are included.

    Micron and pals are hoping that Russia will chicken out if they "intervene", but they are delusional.

    Agreed - the things have gone too far. To high stakes. How would one imagine suddenly stop sanctions? returning money stolen by the west? or parts of Russian (former Urine)?  The funny part is: Putin was couple of times mentioning that he wants Russian lands back. So Kiev and east would be nice. Transnistria too of course  Smile


    As for land offensive - >  Russian peace of liberating  more Russian lands also depends on geopolitical situation. So economic stagnation on the west \, societies' rioting, USA electoral situation.


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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:25 am

    It is now looking likely that the NATO will be directly involved in air strikes against Russia

    Has not been a secret that HATO has funded planned armed and trained Kievs forces since 2014.

    That is why their collapse and failure is so funny.

    Plans are out, NATO forces plan to block off Odessa so russia cannot get it and all of west and central Ukraine.

    And how will they do that?

    Remember they wont send their own troops...

    I assume they will merely stand there and do nothing which is all they need to do, Chances are they are calling Putin's bluff, I could be wrong but I do not think Putin will let the military fire on official foreign forces unless attacked first

    In that case all of Ukraines soldiers will dress up in HATO uniforms and the war will stop?

    Are you stupid?

    And going by the past, Putin's bluffs have been called before.

    Russia has hit HATO operated systems and HQs that likely had HATO personel in situ before in this conflict. Sounds like they actually targeted a group of French soldiers a few weeks back.

    France will say they were mercs, but they are hardly going to admit they are active soldiers in the French military. The Russians have hit rear areas before and killed foreign mercs before... they never phoned up the home countries of those mercs to tell them about it.

    We will see how this plays out but not securing Odessa while they had the chance would be a massive failure

    The defences around the Ukraine are bleeding men that are being sent to the front line to die at a rate of 1,000 per day... by the time Russia gets around to a proper offensive everyone will either rush to the front line or run away in panic and taking Odessa would not be anywhere as hard as it would have been to do it last year.

    You remind me of Scammers who always create a sense of urgency to throw off the decision making process of their victims.

    Exactly right.... a false sense of urgency to try to get them to make a mistake.

    To be fair the US government is doing the same... give them 60 billion dollars or they will lose... except the reality is... give them 60 billion dollars and they will lose anyway... but the money is going to the US MIC anyway so give it anyway.

    The amusing thing is that when this conflict ends the US is going to say we are spent and we need hundreds of billions of dollars extra to be spent n the US military over the next ten years to refill the stocks of ammo and weapons they have depleted.

    You have to feel for the US military being so underfunded all these decades... the peace dividend of the end of the cold war really hit them the hardest.... NOT.

    Bridges allow crossings . You drop bridges that enemy uses now and bridges that the enemy will drop, once you use them later . Weak bridges allow meat to cross , not armour . This will not limit the number you can kill . Resources from the MIC , will never make it to the front , needing destruction , creating profits for fat Cats .

    Destroying the main bridges makes them set their own bridges up which can appear in different places at different times and just complicate the fact that you have to look along the entire river for crossing points and monitor them to see what crosses.

    When you are exterminating the enemy you don't fear them moving forces to the front... the only time you would drop the bridges is when they are retreating.

    Russia has the capacity to cross rivers.

    What makes you think Russia won't kill NATO troops in Ukraine? Idiot.

    More importantly why would Russia not want to kill the troops of the countries responsible for this conflict in the first place.

    Ukrainian troops first, but western troops too.

    Maybe this will be part of a hazing ritual where the old HATO countries make the Swedes and Fins send their troops to Ukraine or else they wont teach them the secret handshake.

    They'd get spit roasted with everything up to and maybe including nukes with no way of responding

    All the talk about nukes is BS when it is only Ukraine troops, but when HATO troops get involved then nukes become justified because HATO troops raise the stakes to a level where nuking them might knock them to their senses. A bit like slapping a hysterical woman... and HATO and the entire west has been acting like a hysterical woman for quite some time.

    Unsurprisingly the tape of German officers discussing amongst other things the Crimean bridge has been taken out of context.

    And yet one gets the feeling that this entire conflict came from such brain storming sessions where some idiot overheard and thought... that would be a good idea...

    Big losses. If this continues, then in a month the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Abrams will run out. Although, most likely even earlier. These three were just destroyed. We don’t know for sure how many were hit or broken.

    Probably just as well... the amount of work and fuel needed to keep them running was probably doing more damage than the vehicles were managing to do themselves.

    Damn... did russia really lose 2,774 tanks?

    Does that include the captured ones?

    Of course lose is a funny word because the vast majority were probably recovered and sent back and repaired and put back into service.

    It really takes a catastrophic failure for an armoured vehicle to not be recoverable.

    I don't think this time Putin can bluff really

    Why would he need to bluff? Are the western nations that send armed troops into a war zone going to complain that their soldiers got killed?

    Did Russia refuse to destroy western tanks.... they didn't even wait till the pain was dry... some were destroyed in the factories they were kept in when they arrived.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:31 am

    I'm more surprised Ukraine still has jets able to fly.

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    Post  TMA1 Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:53 am




    11:19 watch this. What is this? I think I see some kind of light flashing on the back. What weapon is this? Strange. It doesn't seem to move like a regular drone and it almost seems faster than the usual drone. Could it be lmur? Looks too small. Could this be a top attack atgm? Could it be hermes? Or is it a new drone? Or maybe it is just a normal drone and I am seeing things.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:12 am


    Seph:
    I'm more surprised Ukraine still has jets able to fly.


    they received Mig-29s form all over former Warsaw pact , Urine itself had many MiG/Su airplanes - and now the whole NATO keeps repairing whatever is yet to repair So it looks something will fly from time to time, unfortunately.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:18 am

    just wait until rough airstrips and the notoriously fragile "nato standard" F-16 meet. All Russia has got to do is crater Ukraine's prepared airstrips and that wonderwaffle is a non starter.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:48 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:just wait until rough airstrips and the notoriously fragile "nato standard" F-16 meet. All Russia has got to do is crater Ukraine's prepared airstrips and that wonderwaffle is a non starter.

    That big open-mouth intake set below the nose is an exceptionally efficient collector of FOD-ish bitz and pieces. Sticks and stones, tin cans, dogs & cats, and careless ground crew..  Razz

    The ukie pilots mouth will closely mimic his jets intake when that 1st Russian AAM detonates and shreds his portside wing...

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:14 am

    "Micron and pals are hoping that Russia will chicken out if they "intervene", but they are delusional."

    You are delusional, Putin has let Macron and co cross his redlines many many many many times and nothing happened.

    Lets say you told a guy ten times "Don't do this or else I'll do this" but he does it anyways and you never act on your words the guy will naturally think because you never did it all those times before he can and will get away with it. It's not delusional for him to think that.

    So there is logic to the fact and it makes sense considering the past why they think they will get away with it.

    Granted it's a very big gamble to play but its not like there isn't a foundation of support for the fake they will try to call a bluff
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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:43 am

    regarding the leaked call between the officers.

    They (still) sound like the very same officers as when i left the service.

    They sit together and cook up these Whiley E. Coyote idea's that have so many things that can go wrong with it that the end result will be failure.
    And, speaking from personal experience. when they have guys sitting at the table that do it in practice, and tell them why it is not going to work.

    They are then disregarded as being too pessimistic or negative.

    I do not know if anybody recalls one of those genius ideas of chartering truck parking spaces for army flatbeds because NATO had no own naval transport capacity.
    This so mainland EU forces could ship their armor to Scotland.

    "We" me and others verbally warned them three times over that what they cooked up was not going to work.
    It is not an NATO vessel where you can play loose with the rules. That these are civilian freighters that adhere to very strict civilian regulations. if i remember correctly it was like a max load of 40 tons, length of 12 meters, by 2,6 meters by max height of 4.

    It was waved away and they thought it was a genius plan.

    Well, of course shit hit the fan as soon the first flatbeds arrived at the harbor. The people of the Ferry went apeshit seeing the army flatbeds with heavy armor and asked what idiot came up with that plan. That if we ever heard of load distribution and regulations.

    Long story short, after some negotiation we could load Less than half of the armor. the rest had to return to their bases.
    The exercise had not even begun and it was fucked already.

    And this was certainly not an isolated event.

    Ah, so many great memories....

    Go on exercise to Poland in the Winter, find out you do not have any winter gear.
    Kick out the Polish out of their own barracks so NATO does not freeze to death out in the cold.

    Go on Norway, better buy your own gear if you want to keep your limbs and fingers.

    Drag with recovery tanks your immobilized armor in formation for a press conference on the polish border.
    and state this is a fist of NATO to Russia with a straight face.

    Act bewildered that Russians managed to break into your communications and listened in during exercises on the polish border. even mess with us by just randomly mocking us.
    Completely disregard the fact your own communication troops point out you are working with radio's from the 70's with the same crypto every time.
    become mad that your communication troops joke the Russians probably use us as training 101 for their own electronic warfare troops.
    Because Mordor is all Orcs with Rusty soviet shit.

    And after ten years, there are a lot of stories...

    It is what you get with picking "yes-men" officers that do the U.S bidding without questioning anything.
    Sold out their own Nations sovereignty and interests in the process.

    These people are just fine starting WW3 without even realizing they are doing so.


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    Post  lyle6 Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:49 am

    SeigSolovyov wrote:
    So there is logic to the fact and it makes sense considering the past why they think they will get away with it.
    You sound retarded. You're supposed to update your priors before making assumptions.

    Namely what part is the SMO where Putin is actually putting his foot down and enforcing his redlines don't you understand?

    Putin the doormat was true prior to February 2022. Now, not so much. If you can't accept that its not our problem.

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