Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54

None of them was inside at a strike

Sure, but their clothes were smoking like Lavrov as they apperared in the video. 

Not seen this posted here

"UN peacekeeping force" means under the control of the US.
Take a look at the DMZ in Korea.

There were up to 20 people on board the military transport helicopter.

You can´t cramp 20 people inside an Mi-24.

Not sure why its still standing

Why bomb some empty building?
Better to wait until the enemy puts something worth to bomb into it. 

makes taking them out easier. 

Some drone dropping a hammer should be enough. 

Bad news for the West: Putina sweeps the Russian elections.

Like some dude pointed out a few days ago:
The west never came up with an explanation why a guy with a popularity in the 80%+
range (according to western pollsters!) needs to rig the elections.

Shoigu ordered the installation on ships of additional means to destroy drones.

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“The head of the Russian military department ordered the installation of additional fire weapons, large-caliber machine-gun rifle systems to destroy enemy drones,” the Ministry of Defense said.

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The head of the department made a working trip to the troops of the Southern Military District and visited the command post of the Black Sea Fleet , where the fleet command and headquarters officers reported to him on the current situation, enemy actions and the implementation of combat missions by fleet units in their area of ​​responsibility.
At the meeting, Shoigu also instructed to conduct daily training of personnel both during daylight and dark hours. On them, fighters must practice repelling enemy attacks from the air and unmanned boats.
In addition, the minister set the task of increasing the security of infrastructure facilities in the fleet’s area of ​​responsibility and the survivability of ships and vessels.

https://ria.ru/20240317/sredstva-1933619575.html


about time but why tf so late? why Shoigu had to do this not BSF admiral?

ALAMO wrote:

The funniest comment, for now, I have seen was from this bold fag who has been NEVER elected by anyone, whining about VVP winning the elections

y'all know the drill: In Russia there is a dictatorship since there are elections and western puppets arento elected. In Ukraine there is democracy western approved narco-fuhrer needs no elections, people are forced to go to front at the gunpoint so they are free.

Eugenio Argentina wrote:A train of modernized T-62M mod. 2022 on the way to the front.

https://t.me/milinfolive/118459

They won't use T-62M for tank-on-tank action, but I expect they are destined for duty in the rear, eg providing armour support to Rosgvardiya. They might be used as assault guns, but they have better protected tanks for those duties.

Asking for my participation ? No , I have not forgotten about you ! All these years I posted on military forums , brought me nothing but trouble . I don't get paid for it , and I attract the wrong kind of attention , for telling it how it is ! I post , when I get an idea , and the best ideas come to me when , I feel an emotional need to respond , almost impossible to stop , imposing itself by miraculous intuition or premonition , and also when I am very very relaxed and daydreaming - a Zen moment .

I don't care who reads my posts , what position or job they have , what their nationality is ! I still do not remember , where the vast majority of posters here , say they are from ! Will my posts last longer than I will ? Will they live in the electronic cloud , long after I die ? Perhaps a future AI robotic electronic cloud Archaeologist and historian will discover my posts or fragments in year 2224 ? Non of us will be remembered .

So the people choose a King ? Interesting . Democracy has a fleeting life , existing temporarily , like a bubble on the surf , crushed by the next strong wave . When social contradictions become strong , as in war , then strong leaders are needed to rule . Heard about the drone attack on refinery , some 600 km inside Russia , causing smoke and fire . A spectacular , is what some call them ! It will change nothing ? But it will ! The harder the Russian population are hit , the better !

nomadski wrote:
The harder the Russian population are hit , the better !

Don't agree with this statement but I get your sentiment. The more the Ukrops indulge in terror tactics, the harder the resolve of the Russian state and people to reconcile this latest nazi regime to the sewer of history (as they did with the last evil clowns to wear that mantle).

You're an... odd... sort of poster nomadski. Anyone ever tell you that?

Looks like a fair analysis

Armchair Warlord
@ArmchairW
Russian offensive warning - Spring 2024

Putin's been reelected, Ukraine is desperately short on men, ammunition and equipment, and Western resolve is cracking. It seems to me the time is ripe to end this war.

What do the Russians have to attack with? Let's take a look.

I'm going to preface this analysis by saying that I'm simply ignoring official Russian statements on the size of their military at this point - Shoigu stated earlier this year that there were a little over 1.1 million people in the Russian services, which is impossibly small given the amount of recruitment and mobilization they've done and known casualty figures. I suspect the Russians have administratively bifurcated their military into a "regular" force that will continue in service postwar and a "wartime" force to be demobilized and are only reporting numbers for the regulars. This was standard practice in the US from the Civil War to Vietnam, with a distinction between the "regular" United States Army and the "wartime" Army of the United States.

The prewar Russian Army (including the Ground Forces, VDV and Spetznaz) fielded some 360,000 personnel, with about 100,000 of them conscripts barred from combat in Ukraine but deployable in prewar Russia. LDPR forces added some 34,000 troops to that, and I estimate there were approximately 100,000 Rosgvardiya internal troops who could also be deployed in combat roles (Chechen troops are Rosgvardiya, for instance). I'll round this to a 500,000-man total force. Obviously not all of these available troops went into Ukraine.

Russian force strength seems to have remained largely static until September 2022, when the Russians made what is in retrospect an obvious decision to dig in for a long war against an enemy that was by that point turning into little more than a boxing glove for NATO. Mobilization followed as well as formalization of recruitment for wartime volunteers (who had previously served under very loose rules). Some 300,000 reservists were mobilized immediately and volunteer recruitment increased to around 30,000 new soldiers inducted monthly.

This is, however, a war. Although modest in comparison to Ukrainian losses, Russian casualties have been quite heavy - taking Mediazona as a yardstick we can expect approximately 50,000 Russian KIA by this point and another 50,000 Russian soldiers invalidated by serious wounds.

So let's do some math.

We're looking at a 500,000-man prewar force, plus 300,000 reservists, plus 540,000 volunteers (18 months at 30,000/month), minus 100,000 casualties, for a total army of 1.24 million men.

* I'm rolling "wartime" Wagner contractors into the volunteer bucket as they now work for the MoD. Their prewar cadre has been excluded entirely as it's now in exile in Belarus following Prigozhin's failed putsch. I'm also not attempting to differentiate between volunteerism for the Ground Forces versus Rosgvardiya etc.

Now let's allocate forces. 100,000 conscripts will need to be pulled off the line immediately, and it's reasonable to think that another 140,000 regulars will need to supervise them. This is some 240,000 troops - almost equal in size to Russia's prewar army - who can be deployed for to fill the prewar army's security missions as well as train new volunteers, etc. This leaves a million men to deal with Ukraine - considerably more, by the way, than even the most aggressive estimates of Russian force strength actually in theater, suggesting most of these troops are on standby in the deep rear. This is also much higher than any serious estimate of Ukrainian force strength at this point, most of which range from 400-600,000.

This large figure is supported by secondary evidence such as Western outlets reporting that the Russians are maintaining rotations for their (large) force in theater and the obviously formidable forces now available for deployment on the prewar Russian border, which easily defeated a brigade-size Ukrainian attack last week.

The Russians overprepared to defeat the Ukrainian 2023 offensive. I very strongly suspect they've overprepared for their own attack this year - and that they intend that blow to be so heavy as to foreclose intervention by NATO forces. But more on that later.

https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1769525144219980259

As part of the settlement of the war Russian back in international sport should be a condition.

I disagree. International sport is controlled and abused by the west for their agendas... Russia shouldn't be trying to get in, it should be creating and promoting an alternative that is not used and abused by the west as a political tool of punishment.

One way of doing it

A very cheap way of doing it, though not exactly good as your only defence...

Probably quite fun too...

^Still forest is one of the hardest terrains to attack... look up the Winter war and it's casualty ratio.

Very true, but round one was hunters and fishermen with SMGs vs conscripts from urban areas with bolt action rifles and commanders who didn't know what they were doing with no combat experience at all.

This time around the Russians don't even need to enter Finnish forests and could level all the population centres and power supplies and ports and air ports and start burning down those forests... they don't need to occupy the place and they certainly wont care about rebuilding anything at all.

The only reason they would fight Finland would be to remove Finland as a threat to their country. There is no rescue or occupation involved.

Not seen this posted here

There is not going to be any Ukrainian territory that is not demilitarised...

Honestly it looks too generous to Kiev to be accurate.

Bad news for the West: Putina sweeps the Russian elections.

So first place to Putin and second place at less than 5% the communist party.

No wonder Putin won, those idiot western supported puppets split the vote between them and led to Putins victory...

You can´t cramp 20 people inside an Mi-24.

Good point... making it more likely it was a Blackhawk... or a Hip.

Like some dude pointed out a few days ago:
The west never came up with an explanation why a guy with a popularity in the 80%+
range (according to western pollsters!) needs to rig the elections.

And more importantly saying the west does not like him so why are Russians voting for him if the west does not like him... well maybe Russians don't like the west so much anymore... and about time... after the promises made during the cold war... give up communism and join the world community... and then the 1990s happened and the west have been total bastards to Russia ever since... and they have Putin to thank for their ability to stand up to the west and win.

about time but why tf so late? why Shoigu had to do this not BSF admiral?

I don't know but I would guess he has been asking for more money for the last three decades and has been told there is no money for the navy, so the choice could be deck guns or nuclear powered submarines...

For use on the front line hitting trenches and fortified positions the target wont know the difference between a 125mm round and a 115mm round... and they probably have huge numbers of 115mm rounds in stock that would otherwise be going to waste... why not use them.

Recently there was another YT video about the Russians putting 25mm naval guns on their armoured vehicles... they likely have thousands of barrels and hundreds of thousands of rounds in storage and they wont be using them for much else.

At 25 x 218mm semi rimmed, these are powerful shells and the target wont care about the difference between a 23mm and a 30mm shell...

They will punch through anything that is not a main battle tank too for good measure.

Regarding T-62s on the front line there is not much the 115mm wont penetrate and for those there are drones and ATGMs a plenty. the 115mm will deal easily with anything and everything else.

Putin's been reelected, Ukraine is desperately short on men, ammunition and equipment, and Western resolve is cracking. It seems to me the time is ripe to end this war.

You would think, but still the west continues.

By the time they realise the longer they take the worse the deal they will be offered... if they were smart they would end it right now, but they are not and hope for some miracle and the time it takes for that is time their deals are getting worse.

I rather doubt if they decided to end it right now they would be happy with the deal on offer for now but the thing is that the deal is only ever going to get worse so the sooner they accept complete defeat and Russia setting the terms and conditions the better those terms and conditions will be... they are not going to be good and they are only going to get worse... take all the time you need... idiots.

All the bleating from the US about election rigging in Russia is thick and rich hypocrisy and BS projection. Russians had 4 names on the ballot to choose from.
Americans get only 2. When a 3rd party candidate tries to get on the ballot, the Republicrat duopoly removes their name from the ballot in enough districts
to kill their chances. But even a two party racket is not good enough for the US oligarch puppet masters and they are now outright rigging elections.
Anyone who thinks Biden got over 80 million votes in 2020 needs their head examined. The US population did not surge that much after 2016. Expect
Trump to lose this year even though he is the most popular choice. Look at those ludicrous polls purporting to give this shitstain dementia patient an
edge over Trump. This is even though the Democrat bootlicking of Israel has alienated a huge number of leftist voters. (If you think this is tinfoil hat
conspiracy, then listen to the head of the ADL who is whinging about Israel losing support from the youth).

The NATzO talk about deploying forces to Ukria is not mere trash talk. NATzO is now in an existential crisis created by the lunatic arrogance
of its inbred leaders. It has cornered itself into a war on Russia. They really think that Russia is too chicken shit to use nukes. It also
makes sense that any war would start as conventional. So Russia's force numbers are being built up to respond to a NATzO invasion.

Looks like a fair analysis

Propably pretty close to reality.
I guess the real numbers maybe a little bit higher.
But men are not everything.
Looking at the possible production numbers for drones and missiles of all sorts...
The stocks must be big.
I mean BIG.
Don´t get my started with all those glide bomb kits... 
Some crazy days/weeks of loud explosions are ahead for the Ukros.
New year celebrations every day!

 look up the Winter war and it's casualty ratio.

Each war stands for itself. Old russian military wisdom.
Russia has enough Lancet drones to target every single finnish soldier and... finish them off. 

So Russia's force numbers are being built up to respond to a NATzO invasion.

An invasion with... what exactly?
After three weeks of bombing Libya the Europeans run out of ammo.
Russia is some magnitudes larger - in area and propable targets.
The whole of NATO would run out of ammo after a week, not to mention
the damage done by the return fire from Russia.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:^Still forest is one of the hardest terrains to attack... look up the Winter war and it's casualty ratio.

There are a few issues with the Winter War and the Soviet Unions performance in WW2 in general that need addressing.

First of all, he Soviets did suffer severe attrition in certain theaters in the early years of WW2. This fact is indisputable, and it has to do with how ill-prepared the USSR actually was for open warfare, lots of stupid decisions in the lead-up to the war on the European front (eg Stalin being both naïve and paranoid at the same time, but for all the wrong reasons) and so on. These issues were however fixed surprisingly quickly.

With the backdrop of the USSRs initially abysmal combat performance, people think that's how it was the entire time. No, not really. Again, they fixed most of these issues rather quickly and from that point often won important battles at a numerical disadvantage even.

Axis data has always been very inflated, but it's been the go-to data in the west all this time. Most of the obviously highly self-serving memoirs of ex-axis commanders and servicemen were published in the west, and Soviet data was notoriously difficult to find and assess, so the former had to do. Any serious historiographer beyond this point, from 1945 and onwards should have been very concerned about the obvious bias, but this bias did serve western interests during the Cold War so most of them simply went along with it.

The MO was to in order to explain away battles lost against what they always saw as subhumans, whether ethnically or politically, the USSR simply had to have won by sheer numbers. To give them credit for strategic, tactical and/or technological prowess simply wasn't on the radar.

So there's that. It obviously mostly applies to the Germans, and the total bullshit they published post-war in the west, look no further than the Rudel memoirs... But even in the Finnish case you see this kind of thing. Take the famous Finnish sniper Häyhä. He undoubtedly served his army well, but the oft-cited numbers are ridiculously inflated. Most of the records simply lack verification, let alone independent ditto, they don't match declassified Soviet records in any way either. It's simply lazily gotten to the level of if the guy fired a shot it counts as a kill, end of story. If you hit a tank that's 1 tank and 3-4 men down, end of story. No matter if the tank just drives on. It's become an established "fact" much like all the myths about Stalingrad or order 227, to really cement the idea of Soviet (and Russian) ineptitude and barbarism.

People in the west buy this stuff, which is why the Ukrainian Armed Forces are doing their "calculations" this way these days as well.

So that if we lose, which we will, at least we can point to that - they are just overwhelming us like cockroaches, winning by sheer numerical superiority and nothing else.

(addendum: vast majority of the huge Soviet losses in WW2 were civilians murdered by the axis, POWs murdered by the nazis in captivity etc, not Stalins doing or anything of the sort)

Time will tell

North Korea Has Supplied 7,000 Containers of Munitions to Russia, Seoul Says

https://time.com/6957920/north-korea-munitions-russia-ukraine/

shiiiit I didn't realize that Aurus is so expensive



@GB - installation of 25mm guns on decks is nt bad only if you got good fire control + mounts. Otherwise 23mm is much better option or even 14,5 mm IMHO

Trump to lose this year even though he is the most popular choice. Look at those ludicrous polls purporting to give this shitstain dementia patient an
edge over Trump.

Regarding polls, Hillary was sure she would win and all the TV stations were sure she would win... until she didn't of course...

In many ways it would be more amusing if Trump did lose because more Americans would start to wake up and take to the streets about their shitty election system which seems to be designed to prevent any real change from being made... which was probably OK 50 years ago, but now politics in the US is a corrupt sewer it just prevents the cleanup of the whole rotting mess.

Maybe a civil war is what they deserve after all the civil wars they have created and started and indeed tried to create in other countries...

But of course civil wars are the worst kind I would not wish on any country... even ones I don't particularly like.

The NATzO talk about deploying forces to Ukria is not mere trash talk.

I suspect the Russian message is that they have already targeted and killed HATO officers and advisors in the Ukraine... the last Patriot battery they hit they hit it with Iskanders and they hit the control vehicles rather than just the missiles and launchers, so it is pretty clear they were killing Americans and HATO people... which is probably what upset Micron so much.

Wanna hear about Froggs?
I will just start big - they operate a whole 4 DCLR support vessels.
FOUR in an entire army.
It is enough I guess Laughing Laughing Laughing

When a retired French military officer was asked about sending French troops to Ukraine, he said they would be out of their depth... it would be like sending cheerleaders to a game of rugby/soccer/american football etc etc.

Russia is some magnitudes larger - in area and propable targets.
The whole of NATO would run out of ammo after a week, not to mention
the damage done by the return fire from Russia.

Not to mention that Russia has an air defence force that is rather formidable and is optimised for use against the HATO aircraft and missile based attack plan.

I would say not much will reach Russian targets and a lot of aircraft will be lost in the process, making defence against the Russian response will be weaker with each wave of attacks.

@GB - installation of 25mm guns on decks is nt bad only if you got good fire control + mounts. Otherwise 23mm is much better option or even 14,5 mm IMHO

They kept using them on mine countermeasure ships because their open sights meant they were very good for shooting things in the water including floating mines... which would mean sticking it on the back of a tracked vehicle and shooting at targets on the ground in front of you would also be easy and convenient too...

The sights were not amazing for shooting at supersonic missiles or low flying fast jet aircraft, but against a range of targets they were still very useful... pirates and mines etc etc.

The west will be super pissed off at North Korea for selling those containers to Russia if that is indeed what they are doing because the west would have wanted them to sell those to the west.

I rather suspect North Korea would donate all the ammo they could spare just to help Russia against the US and the entire west, but I am sure Russia will pay them good money for the ammo so they can make more for their own ammo storage. Their focus on artillery has clearly been vindicated...

I have my doubts about supplies of 152 mm shells from NK to Russia. NK needs those shells for its own needs since it looks like WWIII is around the corner.
Russia is not short on production. I think that there are all sorts of deals with NK including ICBM tech, but shell supply to the Ukr front is not one of them.
Perhaps this was a symbolic slap at South Korea for supply shells to the Ukr front via the USA.

Record-breaking NATO base to be built near Ukraine border

Wonder who is paying for it.

They have decided to build it now, but come election time in the US who is going to pay for it?

The more the West commits to this second cold war the more damage to the west is going to be done.

Should they build schools or hospitals or upgrade bridges and roads... no... lets build military bases and fences and lots and lots of ammo and weapons and borrow money to pay for it right now when interest on borrowed money is not close to nothing like it was before when they borrowed...

Finland was crowing about its enormous 1,300km plus border with Russia... that is a long fence and a lot of territory to man... that is not going to be cheap.

Of course a long border to protect for Russia is nothing new at all.

Perhaps this was a symbolic slap at South Korea for supply shells to the Ukr front via the USA.

This might be what this is all about... trading some 152mm artillery shells for a few tactical nukes based on their territory for security purposes perhaps...