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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:27 am

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-capable-shooting-down-russian-130900583.html?guccounter=1
    Ukraine's air defense system is capable of countering Russian Zircon hypersonic missiles with European SAMP/T and U.S. Patriot systems,  Air Force spokesman Illya Yevlash said on national television on March 27.

    He also suggested that Russia's use of Zircon missiles could indicate a shortage of other types of missiles.
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    Russia had shortened the intervals between massive airstrikes in order to find weaknesses in Ukrainian air defenses, Yevlash said on March 26.


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    Ukro MoD said 2 were destroyed. I guess they forgot to add with Bunkers and Patriot batteries.
    and here its not a village shack chimney isolation but Zircon shot by Ukrainians  lol1  lol1  lol1  


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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:08 am

    A hypersonic missile with some sort of fabric composite shell? Nope.

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:01 am

    Jokes aside the Zircon is not declared operational yet right?
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:41 am

    thegopnik wrote:Jokes aside the Zircon is not declared operational yet right?

    No but they will be getting used long before paperwork goes through

    Su-34 wasn't officially operational until halfway through Syrian campaign



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    Post  Scorpius Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:14 am

    thegopnik wrote:Jokes aside the Zircon is not declared operational yet right?

    Well, state tests are being conducted in Ukraine before the final adoption of the Zircon into service))

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    Post  Arrow Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:22 am

    Cirkon was found to be very efficient. It is already accepted for service. Currently, not only on ships but also on land launchers from which Kiev was attacked.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:41 am

    Another Abrams down apparently.

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:55 am

    hypersonic missiles with European SAMP/T and U.S. Patriot systems
    Even their developers say that they can´t.

    could indicate a shortage of other types of missiles.
    2 years after the first statement Russia is running out of missiles again.  Rolling Eyes

    n order to find weaknesses in Ukrainian air defenses
    They already found some weak "spots". Like the Kharkov region. Odessa. Zaporoshye...

    A hypersonic missile with some sort of fabric composite shell? 
    If you look closely you can see the computer chips from german washing machines.  lol1


    Coming back to the Kh-35 missiles being used against radar stations in the past weeks.
    Could they be ground launched?
    From Bal complexes?

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:34 pm

    ❗Another American Abrams tank was destroyed near Avdeyevka, according to reports on Russian social media.

    https://t.me/geopolitics_live/19883

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:37 pm

    ❗ Oryol Governor Andrey Klychkov has confirmed that Russian forces struck an Abrams tank near Avdeyevka

    The US-made vehicle was destroyed by military personnel from a special forces brigade that is regularly assisted by the Oryol region. The governor specified that the Abrams was struck near the settlement of Berdychi.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:42 pm

    ⏺Geraniums flew to Sumy, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Odessa and Nikolaev regions.
    ⏺Tactical aviation strikes on targets in the Kharkov region, as well as on the occupied part of the DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.
    ⏺Ballistic missile strikes against targets in the occupied part of the DPR and the Kharkov region.
    ⏺Tu-22M3 bombers attacked targets in the Odessa region with X-22 missiles.

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    Interesting arrivals:
    A facility in Kharkov was hit by gliding bombs. They had never made it there before. Ukry writes that new UMPB glide bombs were used, which are equipped with an engine and can be launched from 300 mm MLRS or from aircraft. The range is unknown, but if they hit Kharkov, then it’s 30 kilometers from the border there.

    (https://t.me/jnb_news)

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:05 pm

    Perfect. Saves Russia the trouble of going to find them

    The AFU is transferring its personal command reserves near Chasov Yar in the DPR

    This was reported to RIA Novosti by retired LPR Lieutenant-Colonel Andrey Marochko:

    Weapons, military equipment and personnel are being transferred from the rear areas, and the personal reserves of the ground forces command are also being used.

    The Ukrainian military have taken such a step in order to stabilise the contact line.


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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:18 pm

    Very different results to presumably the same munitions.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:22 pm

    Coming back to the Kh-35 missiles being used against radar stations in the past weeks.
    Could they be ground launched?
    From Bal complexes?

    Yes. There are ground launched and air launched versions of the missile. The helicopter launched version is the same as the ground launched model and has a solid rocket booster so it can be fired in a hover and does not require the helicopter to accelerate to a set speed before it can launch the missile.

    Regarding Zircon I suspect the sea launched model is cleared for service but have not heard them say the land launched model is ready for service yet, but that is also normal.

    Weapons, military equipment and personnel are being transferred from the rear areas, and the personal reserves of the ground forces command are also being used.

    So their shortages are getting rather extreme and they are being stretched.... Good.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:36 pm

    Is it really proven that Zircons are used from ground launchers?
    The truth is, I don't remember seeing any official images or reports.

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:09 pm

    Our source reports that the Russian Armed Forces could launch a major offensive at any time, but they can postpone it, starting in the winter after the US elections. Also, the Russians can wait for the start of the Israeli case 2.0, when the Jews will trample further and the whole world will switch there.
    As the source explains, the Russians can continue their creeping offensive, accumulating forces and ammunition for a blitzkrieg in the winter of 2024, and until that moment simply slowly destroy the entire infrastructure of Ukraine, making cities uninhabitable, so that people leave Ukraine, the domestic economy freezes, the budget deficit grows, and financing and maintaining the Ukrainian crisis became more and more expensive, which became unprofitable for the “sponsors.”

    Therefore, the information in the Western press is partly correct. Here is Zelensky’s statement that Ukraine will not be able to defend itself, since there is almost no artillery - this message was launched in order to force the West to increase arms supplies. Including air defense, which will always be in short supply.
    Also, a broad offensive by the Russian Armed Forces is now beneficial for the Democrats and Biden in order to push through financial assistance to Kyiv and to actualize the Ukrainian crisis in the global information field.

    Until winter, the situation in Ukraine will worsen in all directions - this is a fact, which means the Russian Federation has a trump card. Why rush?

    We'll see how it goes.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm

    ❗It is reported that a Russian Aerospace Forces plane was shot down in Sevastopol by friendly fire from air defense.

    Judging by the images, the pilot ejected successfully.

    Here, once again, no comments, the interaction was completely bottomless and remains that way, no matter what.

    military informant

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:31 pm


    Aquí, una vez más, no hay comentarios, la interacción fue completamente sin fondo y así sigue siendo, pase lo que pase.

    Bullshit, there are hundreds of combat missions carried out per day by the VKS and tens of thousands of enemy targets shot down by the Russian AD, it won't be a dozen cases of friendly fire in two years that will put into question the interaction between aviation and the AD Russian.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:09 pm

    Sevastopol Governor Razvozhaev confirmed that the plane crashed into the sea near the city.

    “The pilot ejected. He was picked up by rescuers from the Sevastopol Rescue Service at a distance of two hundred meters from the shore. His life is not in danger,” Razvozzhaev stated.

    The missing plane is reported to have been a Su-27 fighter.
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    Post  thegopnik Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:17 pm

    I give up. I will take a month off from this thread.
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    This war has taught me life is easier to be a high ranking Russian army military official than it is for Navy or Airforce because you will get less scolding.


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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:21 pm

    have taken such a step in order to stabilise the contact line.
    lol1 lol1 lol1
    This it the fourth or fifth time that they send troops to "stabilise" the front.
    It seems it doens´t work.

    Very different results to presumably the same munitions.
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    New Pope or not???  dunno

    Yes. There are ground launched and air launched versions of the missile. 
    I meant those specific missiles we saw in videos destroying radars.
    Drone spots the target, Bal launches missile.
    BUMM.
    Cheaper than sending aircraft.

     plane crashed into the sea near the city.
    Ukros will claim it was Patriot.  Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:05 pm

    Sending F-16s to Ukraine is a ‘kamikaze’ mission

    The F-16s being delivered to Ukraine “will not change the situation on the battlefield,” and Russia will destroy them “just as we today destroy tanks, armored vehicles and other equipment, including multiple rocket launchers,” Vladimir Putin told Russian military pilots during a working visit to Tver region Wednesday.

    Veteran military aviation historian and author Nikolai Bodrikhin agrees with this assessment, saying the F-16 is an “old” plane whose characteristics, capabilities and limitations are “well known” to the Russian military.

    “Our fighters have missiles with a range that’s probably no less than that of the F-16’s air-to-air missiles, and there are ground-based complexes, even the old S-200 complexes, which can hit them quite easily – all the more so when it comes to the more modern S-300, S-400 and others,” Bodrikhin said. “In other words, we have a lot of air defense systems capable of destroying a significant number of these aircraft, even if they attack simultaneously.”

    The observer believes the only practical threat US-made aircraft can pose to Russia are as a missile carrier on a suicide mission. “I don’t expect these planes to play any major role, but they can carry and accelerate air-to-ground missiles like a kamikaze – speeding the missile up and getting shot down, but the missile will be become difficult to intercept. This is the only regard in which a danger can manifest itself,” Bodrikihin explained.

    To counter this threat, Russia’s Air Force and Air Defense Troops will have to track the F-16 jets from the moment of launch, and when they gain an appropriate height (conventionally, above 3,000 meters), they must be attacked and destroyed, according to the observer.

    https://t.me/geopolitics_live/19949

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:13 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Sevastopol Governor Razvozhaev confirmed that the plane crashed into the sea near the city.

    “The pilot ejected. He was picked up by rescuers from the Sevastopol Rescue Service at a distance of two hundred meters from the shore. His life is not in danger,” Razvozzhaev stated.

    The missing plane is reported to have been a Su-27 fighter.

    Ah fúck it, whatever

    Just buy another one


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    Post  Isos Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:24 pm

    It's a su-27, not produced anymore. IMO it's an old unmodernized version that was used to hunt maritime drones there.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:33 pm


    Buy Su-35 then, it's just metal

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