Russian special military operation in Ukraine #55

The Russian army is achieving tactical success on the front, said the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Alexander Sirsky to the "Strana" newspaper.

The Ukrainian army disobeys orders, threatens commanders, deserts, leaves the battlefield and refuses to fire, according to an order on strengthening discipline in the Ukrainian army signed by Sirsky.

Among the criminal acts, Sirski listed: disobedience, failure to carry out orders, threats or violence towards commanders, unauthorized leaving a military unit or place of service, desertion, avoiding military service by self-harm or other means, unauthorized leaving the battlefield or refusing to use weapons.

ALAMO wrote:
Nobody would enjoy being a receiver's end of 12 pc salvo ...
Call me impressed.

Presumably delivered in a cluster over an area much like the size of a submarine area attack.

How about an MLMS or Multi Launch Mortar System.

Sirsky is full of shit. Excuses coming out of every orifice for the failure of his regime's performance on the battlefield. Ukr conscripts are forced
to fight at gunpoint and are sent in human waves (equivalent in terms of meat grinder) against Russian lines. I guess we should be impressed
that Ukrs have been so brainwashed and coerced that they have not been surrendering in droves to save themselves. Instead they have been
dying by the hundreds of thousands.

kvs wrote:Sirsky is full of shit.   Excuses coming out of every orifice for the failure of his regime's performance on the battlefield.   Ukr conscripts are forced
to fight at gunpoint and are sent in human waves (equivalent in terms of meat grinder) against Russian lines.   I guess we should be impressed
that Ukrs have been so brainwashed and coerced that they have not been surrendering in droves to save themselves.   Instead they have been
dying by the hundreds of thousands.    

They think that if Ukraine only joins the EU, then life will become great.

I don't blame them. 30 years of propaganda have really done it's job.

No way! Ukraine was lying?!

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/107489

Apologies for going off topic (mods feel free to move)

A couple of pics of RBU-6000 on trucks.





Russia has designed a few systems with rocket pods/racks although nothing has been put into production

Tigr with 40 rocket pod S-8 rockets (as mentioned earlier by someone else)


Tigr with a 20 rocket pod armed with either 81mm rockets range=2km or 105mm range 10km an additional 20 rockets stored inside.


Brazil also did something similar using the Tigr but it never saw production



Then a company in Russia designed this Eskadron" 4x4 Russian Airborne Assault Buggy. Although apparently they weren't interested as it was a two seater only. But in the second picture you can see a Russian four seater has been designed so we might see a rocket pod version yet. There is apparently video footage of Eskadron online somewhere.

They have shit tons of BM-21 grad in reserve designed for mlrs actions with a good accuracy
They don't need those dumb mini mlrs that have no real impact on the fight.

Isos wrote:They have shit tons of BM-21 grad in reserve designed for mlrs actions with a good accuracy
They don't need those dumb mini mlrs that have no real impact on the fight.

Isos wrote:They have shit tons of BM-21 grad in reserve designed for mlrs actions with a good accuracy
They don't need those dumb mini mlrs that have no real impact on the fight.

I believe these are intended for airborne forces, they have their uses. Even the BM-21 saw an airborne version called Grad-V it had a reduced number of rockets on a smaller truck they nicknamed it gradually VDV. See image below. Where the Tigr versions are concerned they are better protected than the Grad-V obviously the range is less but am sure airborne troops would rather have some firepower then none at all. And these systems technically rely on saturation fire than pin point accuracy so yes technically you could put a very small pack of BM-21 rockets on one of these but you would probably only get 4-8 rockets max, but then less saturation, or you could have 40 S-8 rockets instead. And don't forget S-8 have a decent variety of different rockets available. The 105mm rockets with 10km range provides decent range. S-8 rockets against light armour, soft skin vehicles, and troops would be devastating enough. The Grad gives you more range and heavier warheads for larger saturation or heavier targets. Also remember that the Grad missiles have a minimum range of around 4-5km so anything below that could be engaged by these type of systems. Belarus also have a similar system called flute. See pic. As for no real impact on the fight you could say the same about a rifle, or a grenade, they all have their uses in their specific area what wins a war in terms of weapons is a combination of all arms available. Also saying it has no impact on the war tell that to the Ukrainian troops on the receiving end of 40x S-8 rockets coming at them.


Grad-V (VDV version)


Belarusian Flute S-8 rocket launcher

Hohols nightmare by su57, it seems confirmation that our stealth bird is the kh69 carrier

There is no need for VKS to overfly enemy territory

This is outdated

Hypersonic cruise missiles, subsonic cruise missiles, ballistic missiles are all that is required to conduct effective SEAD

I understand that there is good news and Russia is very strengthened, but my specific question to the analysts: at what point could there be a general collapse of the Ukrainian front and a Russian advance taking advantage of the situation?
It could be the victory of Donald Trump, which would give the ucros the death card by losing financing, but there could also be sabotage of the US elections as in 2020. I understand that the deep North Americans, the hard-working, are with the Russians a the alternative right. It is the woke liberals of the liberal North American shores who vote for Biden and hate Russia and its traditional values. But the danger is that these people could follow one more mandate.

And not this trench war, which, although Russia is well positioned, does not guarantee victory.
kyiv must be taken no matter what, because it is a political symbol of the regime. But Russia today is quite far from the capital.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that there is good news and Russia is very strengthened, but my specific question to the analysts: at what point could there be a general collapse of the Ukrainian front and a Russian advance taking advantage of the situation?
It could be the victory of Donald Trump, which would give the ucros the death card by losing financing, but there could also be sabotage of the US elections as in 2020. I understand that the deep North Americans, the hard-working, are with the Russians a the alternative right. It is the woke liberals of the liberal North American shores who vote for Biden and hate Russia and its traditional values. But the danger is that these people could follow one more mandate.

And not this trench war, which, although Russia is well positioned, does not guarantee victory.
kyiv must be taken no matter what, because it is a political symbol of the regime. But Russia today is quite far from the capital.

Russia is taking advantage of the situation

Ukraine is in the midst of a general collapse

The west is taking huge economic losses, why should Russia care whether or not Trump or Biden win a mandate? What influence will that have?

Was it not Lloyd Austin, Bidens own secretary of defense that is pleading for Ukraine to stop and negotiate?

Is it not NAFO for whom Article V is just a Wikipedia article?

Are western observers not crying in unison about the Russian defeat of USA on Twitter and reddit ?

What do you mean not a guaranteed victory?

What do you call it then? As Zelenskys mandate ends May 22, what then will it be but an unrecognized regime with whom no peace negotiations can be concluded?

Not to mention the general advance across the front that is very easy and costing Russia very little in terms of life and blood

The war is on easy mode for Russia

It seems to me that general observers in the west use the same logic when describing Israel - Iran proxy war

Somehow the onus is on Iran to prove it is winning and strike back, when indeed they have encircled Israel and Hamas has survived and retaken Beit Hanoun and other areas

Yet we talk about a need for Iran to prove itself? Only it is the US which has lost Iraq, Syria, Lebanon to Iran, and Israel embroiled in an internal conflict

Not to mention a general notice to the general public that the red sea is closed to swimmers, unless you are Russia or China

Which wars are these observers watching? It seems very detached from the reality

From my POV and from most who can comprehend the general state of affairs , hegemony has gone for broke and can't cash the checks it needs to stay in the game

If there is any agreement made I really hope Russia doesn't accept anything less than, Donetsk, Kharkiv, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Odessa, Sumy, chernihiv, Poltava, Dnipro, kirvohad. Anything less than that would have made the loss of Russian troops worthless. Cherkasy, Kiev, and anything else would be a bonus. But Ukraine are never going to agree with the first lot of regions nevermind Kiev. However I feel any agreement done with zelensky/the west will only be abused and not followed through at least not long term and Russia will just have a headache further done the line, with nazis scumbags carrying out terror attacks, I think the best solution would be Russia to tell them to do one and continue taking areas it's the only way to ensure safety. Maybe at most western Ukraine could be left to be a Nazi enclave relying on EU handouts but I would make sure that they were totally demilitarised and never allowed arms other than a pistol for police officers and a hard security border in place. And ensure reuniting of Transnistria and Gaugazhia with Russia. If the west doesn't like it or tries more dirty tricks tell them Moldova will be next.

@Ark

"What do you call it then? As Zelenskys mandate ends May 22, what then will it be but an unrecognized regime with whom no peace negotiations can be concluded?"

A few articles, experts, and military summary channel have commented on this stating that after 22nd of May zelensky mandate dies end and with no legitimate regime there can't be any negotiations legally, there maybe a couple by Ukrainian generals to create a basis for an agreement however this could be overturned if someone else gets in power, they basically saying Putin has put the pressure on saying if no agreements before 22nd of May and Ukraine goes into an unrecognised regime mode there will be no agreements and the Russian offensive goes ahead. (Not my words theirs)

"Germany will send an additional American-made MIM-104 Patriot long-range air defense system to Ukraine to help it fend off increased Russian strikes, the German Defence Ministry announced on April 13.

The ministry said that the air defense system will come from the stocks of the German military and is to be handed over immediately."

Arkanghelsk wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that there is good news and Russia is very strengthened, but my specific question to the analysts: at what point could there be a general collapse of the Ukrainian front and a Russian advance taking advantage of the situation?
It could be the victory of Donald Trump, which would give the ucros the death card by losing financing, but there could also be sabotage of the US elections as in 2020. I understand that the deep North Americans, the hard-working, are with the Russians a the alternative right. It is the woke liberals of the liberal North American shores who vote for Biden and hate Russia and its traditional values. But the danger is that these people could follow one more mandate.

And not this trench war, which, although Russia is well positioned, does not guarantee victory.
kyiv must be taken no matter what, because it is a political symbol of the regime. But Russia today is quite far from the capital.

Russia is taking advantage of the situation

Ukraine is in the midst of a general collapse

The west is taking huge economic losses, why should Russia care whether or not Trump or Biden win a mandate? What influence will that have?

Was it not Lloyd Austin, Bidens own secretary of defense that is pleading for Ukraine to stop and negotiate?

Is it not NAFO for whom Article V is just a Wikipedia article?

Are western observers not crying in unison about the Russian defeat of USA on Twitter and reddit ?

What do you mean not a guaranteed victory?

What do you call it then? As Zelenskys mandate ends May 22, what then will it be but an unrecognized regime with whom no peace negotiations can be concluded?

Not to mention the general advance across the front that is very easy and costing Russia very little in terms of life and blood

The war is on easy mode for Russia

It seems to me that general observers in the west use the same logic when describing Israel - Iran proxy war

Somehow the onus is on Iran to prove it is winning and strike back, when indeed they have encircled Israel and Hamas has survived and retaken Beit Hanoun and other areas

Yet we talk about a need for Iran to prove itself? Only it is the US which has lost Iraq, Syria, Lebanon to Iran, and Israel embroiled in an internal conflict

Not to mention a general notice to the general public that the red sea is closed to swimmers, unless you are Russia or China

Which wars are these observers watching? It seems very detached from the reality

From my POV and from most who can comprehend the general state of affairs , hegemony has gone for broke and can't cash the checks it needs to stay in the game

The only one concerned about ending the war and supporting stupid Zelensky is Trump and his Republicans because they are intelligent and patriotic. They are the ones who have raised voices in the USA about military spending and looting of taxpayers.
They feel ideologically close and they are right. Or do you think that Tucker Carlson (close to Trump on the USA American right) interviewing Putin is a coincidence? They defend real USA Americans (not shitty immigrants or wokes), traditional values, family, property, Putin is in it. Ukraine represents all the progressive rot

Are you seriously so delusional to think that Biden wants to negotiate in Ukraine? If you were so willing, why do you continue financing Ukraine?His own mafia family has business there.
Let's see if you understand, I mean you are Russian and you don't know the nature of the conflict.
The Russia and Ukraine War is part of a global war with geopolitical and civilizational consequences. That is why I comment here as an Argentine, because it is not a regional war but rather greater issues are at stake for everyone (for my interests as an Argentine nationalist and for yours)
Biden is desperate to finance Ukraine because losing it is strengthening a Russia that is against globalism. If Russia wins it is basically the end of any globalist project. It is much more important than the Spanish Civil War or Vietnam.

What Russia should not do is trust or believe Western agreements, it must move forward with force, because a democratic victory in November means 4 years of progressive and anti-Russian government, of Russian lives (and also valuable Ukrainians for the Russian civilizational project) that they are going to be lost

ALAMO wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:
The only one concerned about ending the war and supporting stupid Zelensky is Trump and his Republicans because they are intelligent and patriotic.

Nope.
It is because he is not soaked in this war for personal reasons, and gives a round shit.
404 after the 2014 coup is a private entity of US-based oligarchy, the Biden family included.
They were trying to rob this land for a decade and partially managed it.
A fukin' Hunter was sniffing coke rags from Ukro prostitutes' arses in Kiev, not in Vegas.

Europe is soaked in because needs lithium for its stupid "eco" agenda - a vice of SPD called that clearly.
"It is all about Donbas lithium deposits".

They have been tamed with this picture, while the overall strategy of sucking the EU was ongoing.

It is the Russkie who give a round shit of all of that - they just need a peace and stability at it's borders.

If that can be accomplished with extra gains like Danube delta, 20 mln more population, and all the resources out there - what is there not to love?

He is the only president who did not maintain a single foreign war, a fact. He is a guy who knows that the United States has an internal enemy that must be fought (the deep state, immigrants, globalists), not an external one beyond its rivalry with China.

Lithium is also promoted by Elon Munsk and China, I don't know what "eco" agenda you see there. These are expected technological changes, like when oil or electricity were discovered.

ALAMO wrote:Your level of naivety is somehow charming, I admit.

No. The problem is that you see everything in pragmatic terms when ideology exists in individuals and political projects.
You don't understand shit about the culture war. Go and find out what that means in today's world.

No fighting eachother. I will vote for Trump and understand where argentinaguard is coming from but yeah frankly a majority of trump supporters dont trust Trump one bit and only support the guy because of the insane amount of lawfare against him. Trump better know that those supporting him do not want any more wars that arwnt direct attacks against our country. Anything else 96 percent of Trump voters see as bankers wars.

So yeah. The left here are deluded and think we worship Trump. We certainly do not. We see Trump as a molotov cocktail to throw in a hopelessly corrupt and unamerican regime/system.