Russian special military operation in Ukraine #55

The sole fact that I am here nulls your claim, so ...
Grow some skin.

TMA1 wrote:
So yeah. The left here are deluded and think we worship Trump. We certainly do not. We see Trump as a molotov cocktail to throw in a hopelessly corrupt and unamerican regime/system.

Trump or not trump, does not matter.
US is not being ruled by the people, for the people, for the last 70 years or so.
Who is a president means perfectly nothing.
Trump was an abandoned and pathetic president, tied with his inner circle and lacking any wide-screen perspective of the world that surround him.
I don't judge his internal policy, because I give a shit for it.
Even if he had a single clue in his actions - he was immediately hampered by the deep state.
His two fukin' secretaries of the state were acting a direct and severe opposition to his politics
And I can't figure out which one was the dumber one.
He ended up ordering massive cruise missiles strikes on Syria, because his fukin' daughter told him to do so.
Because someone has reached her ears, even less skiller&trained.
And ended up with an embarrassment, covered up with propaganda, when it turned that pesky Russkie can just jamm all the salvo and made it hit a hill slope.

Well OK no proper SAMs but where are the MANPADs?

TMA1 wrote:No fighting eachother. I will vote for Trump and understand where argentinaguard is coming from but yeah frankly a majority of trump supporters dont trust Trump one bit and only support the guy because of the insane amount of lawfare against him. Trump better know that those supporting him do not want any more wars that arwnt direct attacks against our country. Anything else 96 percent of Trump voters see as bankers wars.

So yeah. The left here are deluded and think we worship Trump. We certainly do not. We see Trump as a molotov cocktail to throw in a hopelessly corrupt and unamerican regime/system.

And because economically they were better off until the damn pandemic arrived and now they have an unstable tyrant for president who can provoke a world war against Russia. Between 2016-2020 they had economic growth and without absurd wars. The entire media establishment, its stupid Hollywood artists, Wall Street, the judicial system, attacking Trump. It must be for a reason, the animosity that it generated and generates is not a coincidence.
The international system does not benefit from guys like Trump and Putin, that is the reality.

They have shit tons of BM-21 grad in reserve

Grad has a range of 15 to 30 or even 40km, depending on the version and rockets/missiles used.
To use it for an attack on a trench that is 3 to 4km away would be a waste of ressources.
That´s why those shorter range systems make sense.
Also, as ALAMO mentioned, the RBU rounds carry a lot of BOOM.

One of the destroyed Ukrainian power plants from the inside.

Looks like minor damage. 

There is no need for VKS to overfly enemy territory

Doesn´t mean that the Su-57 overflew Banderaland.
It propably launched those tactical cruise missiles from Russian airspace.
But its start and approach to the launch area couldn´t be detected by the enemy.

And perfectly zero countermeasures.

Bandera AD strong! 

The war is on easy mode for Russia

Economy is growing on China in the 2000´s level.

The ministry said that the air defense system will come from the stocks of the German military 

Dearming of NATO continues.

Well OK no proper SAMs but where are the MANPADs?

Propably depleted, too.
Stocks were old from the beginning.

Hole wrote:
To use it for an attack on a trench that is 3 to 4km away would be a waste of ressources.

Not even that.
Those won't be operational.
Grad can hit a target in that range only in a direct fire mode.
It can't reach a target at that range ballistic.
It's fuse is set to arm after an active phase of the flight - when the engine is already burned out.
There was an impact fuse for BM-21, but it was for a maritime use, as a point blank antiship mode.
Technically speaking, only a technical event, not spread along the forces and hardy used.
That is a space for a missiles that have a fuse arming time of 0.3-0.6s, because it is made for being used in smaller range, and sometimes even as a direct fire weapon.
S-5/7/13 operational range is 3-5 km, same as RBG-60.
It is a direct fire suppressive battery.
Isos lacks all that knowledge, but still makes his bold claims.
Shame on you boy. Shame on you.
Take your daily dose of tomatoes with feta.
Or a chicken soup with a baguette.

And stop drowning in crap.

I know that all hell is letting lose in Israel but this is quite a bang

https://ria.ru/20240413/spetsoperatsiya-1939789299.html

Russian air defense shot down 222 Ukrainian drones in one day

Drones donated by whole nato I presume.  BTW the other day Russian MoD reported like 330 UACVs were downed.  I wonder how Russians can stop massive drone waves without spending expensive AAD missiles'.

JohninMK wrote:I know that all hell is letting lose in Israel but this is quite a bang

Do you mean like 500 uavs + many ballistic/quasi ballistic missiles? perhaps it is time to res;ons to years fo Zionist abuse an d aggression?

I see a few $

https://www.rt.com/russia/595863-ukraine-power-russian-airstrikes/

Ukrainians urged to save power
The country’s energy infrastructure has been badly damaged by Russian airstrikes

Saving electricity should become a habit for Ukrainians due to supply constraints resulting from Russian airstrikes on energy infrastructure, according to Sergey Kovalenko, the head of Yasno power provider. The firm is a subsidiary of DTEK, Ukraine’s largest private power generating company.

His advice followed a Russian missile attack on Trypolsky Thermal Power Plant on Thursday, the largest electricity supplier to the city of Kiev. Ukrainian media said the facility lost 100% of its power generation capacity.

According to Kovalenko, it is important for the entire population to change its power consumption habits in order to maintain balance in the system and not overload the grid.

“Save on consumption during peak hours… From 7 to 10pm. Every single day, please save electricity. Every single day, all through 2024. Make it a habit,” he advised in a post on his Facebook page, giving a number of suggestions on ways to cut electricity use. These included replacing regular light bulbs with LEDs, turning off the light in empty rooms, taking a shower at night, setting the temperature on boilers to minimum and even heating the kettle on a gas stove instead using electric ones.

“The main thing is to take responsibility for the conscious use of energy. We can no longer treat electricity as something that will be with us forever. The desire to become energy efficient… has to be a conscious decision, to become a way of life,” he explained.

Well the building, the machinery is gonna have to be completely rebuilt

Zelensky: Give us 50 Billion for reconstruction of power plants!!!

BTW the other day Russian MoD reported like 330 UACVs were downed.  

Most of those drones are downed by EW systems.

I see a few $ 

Russian propaganda!!!!!!!!

Other cope mechanism of the west: At least some Ukros can live a peaceful, carefree life!

Hole wrote:

te]I see a few $ 

Russian propaganda!!!!!!!!

Other cope mechanism of the west: At least some Ukros can live a peaceful, carefree life!

Putin's villas!
Those are all Putins!!!!

Explosions reported in Kharkov region.

Is this news? 
More a daily occurrence. 

An arrival in Dnepropetrovsk, apparently a military facility was hit.

Belisarius wrote:
Footage of German-made IRIS-T anti-aircraft missile launcher wiped out by units of the Russian Groups of Forces

https://t.me/mod_russia_en/13329

Doesn't look like the same launcher in both photos to me.

I'm sure that a drone doesn't carry a paint spray to change the colour of parts of its targets

EDIT

Think I may have solved it. Just found this its down to the passage of time.

By the time the attack drones/guided shells arrived there were 2 IRIS-T launchers with different cammo schemes on different sides of that small wood. See about 12 secs in on this video of the incident. The command truck was eliminated, as the song goes 'Two out of three ain't bad'

Hole wrote:Is this news? 
More a daily occurrence. 

The retards like Arrow already moved on to Israel

They are in a Yuri Ignat stage



You are here now

Arkanghelsk wrote:
The retards like Arrow already moved on to Israel

Here is the funny part
This attack was carried with the help of proxy forces, and lot's of vids how they are launching MLRS are there.
Some of the "interception" vids are half a year old, and present Iron Dome wasting missiles on the Hamas sanitation pipes filled with salpeter
On the other hand, we clearly have a recorded evidences of multiple - and I mean multiple - strikes on the airbases, and "some" other targets.
Judging by the airbases interception rates, most of the Iranian missiles passed through. Sure, they have hit some of them. But hey, those are inexpensive, mass produced missiles hardly better than Scud was - the sole difference is that those are much smaller.
Take a look at the photos of "intercepted missiles".
Just three first I could find now, but it was just the same for the others.

Closer.

Closer.

Clooooser ...

Have you noticed the same?






Where are the warheads?

Every single one looks like a fallen down engine compartment after the warhead separated.

Sooo ... those are not "intercepted missiles" but the ones that fell down after warhead separated and aimed the target.

Weird, isn't it?

Trump or not trump, does not matter.
US is not being ruled by the people, for the people, for the last 70 years or so.
Who is a president means perfectly nothing.
Trump was an abandoned and pathetic president, tied with his inner circle and lacking any wide-screen perspective of the world that surround him.
I don't judge his internal policy, because I give a shit for it.
Even if he had a single clue in his actions - he was immediately hampered by the deep state.
His two fukin' secretaries of the state were acting a direct and severe opposition to his politics      
And I can't figure out which one was the dumber one.
He ended up ordering massive cruise missiles strikes on Syria, because his fukin' daughter told him to do so.
Because someone has reached her ears, even less skiller&trained.
And ended up with an embarrassment, covered up with propaganda, when it turned that pesky Russkie can just jamm all the salvo and made it hit a hill slope.

He was out of his element. An old boomer who said he would drain the swamp and when he waded into the swamp it ate him. I will still probably vote for him but I am not under any illusions. I also have suspicions as a couple years ago I found out one of his serious mentors was a guy named Roy Cohn. If you can stomach it dig into his history. Makes Epstein look like a choir boy.

Concerning the cruise missile strikes you will note they did almost nothing. Trump tried to minimize the conflict and I think that was pretty apparent. Similar I think how during his presidency after Soleimani was killed we and Iran agreed to them firing some missiles at us to give appearances and let off some geopolitical steam. But yeah I fear Trump even if by miracle he is squeaky clean he would still be stopped by the swamp. Look at the lawfare waged against him.

Edit: trying to get quotes to work.

ALAMO wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:
The retards like Arrow already moved on to Israel

Here is the funny part
This attack was carried with the help of proxy forces, and lot's of vids how they are launching MLRS are there.
Some of the "interception" vids are half a year old, and present Iron Dome wasting missiles on the Hamas sanitation pipes filled with salpeter
On the other hand, we clearly have a recorded evidences of multiple - and I mean multiple - strikes on the airbases, and "some" other targets.
Judging by the airbases interception rates, most of the Iranian missiles passed through. Sure, they have hit some of them. But hey, those are inexpensive, mass produced missiles hardly better than Scud was - the sole difference is that those are much smaller.
Take a look at the photos of "intercepted missiles".
Just three first I could find now, but it was just the same for the others.

Closer.

Closer.

Clooooser ...

Have you noticed the same?






Where are the warheads?  

Every single one looks like a fallen down engine compartment after the warhead separated.

Sooo ... those are not "intercepted missiles" but the ones that fell down after warhead separated and aimed the target.

Weird, isn't it?

Yes those are missile stages as Hole pointed out

But you will trigger Binkov with this information, better to let him reach his acceptance stage with time as all of NAFO did

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Yes those are missile stages as Hole pointed out

But you will trigger Binkov with this information, better to let him reach his acceptance stage with time as all of NAFO did

Yes I know, I have just told him the same
Take a look at your own compilation, 3:33+
One can clearly see that AD is hitting SOMETHING at point blank range, yet it makes no difference. Multiple warhead strikes clearly visible.
What have they hit?
Decoys?
Engine sections/fuel tanks?
At the moment, I would consider some sort of acceleration engine on the warhead section of those Iranian missiles - same scheme repeats in all the vids I have watched.
The warheads are not glowing because of heat, but ... something else.

Isn't this a Ukraine thread?

Gentlemen, with due respect, take your discussion to an appropriate thread.

https://www.rt.com/russia/595945-russia-foreign-ministry-zakharova-iran-israel-ukraine/

Russia tells Israel to condemn Ukraine

Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova made the remark after West Jerusalem’s envoy urged Moscow to denounce Iranian strikes

Zakharova responded: “Simona, remind me of when Israel condemned even a single strike by the Kiev regime on Russian regions? You don’t know? Nor do I.”

The foreign ministry representative also cited “regular statements in support of [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky’s actions on the part of Israeli officials.”