2024 Iran–Israel conflict

Arrow wrote:Israel claims to have intercepted most of the weapons launched by Iran.  If this is true, then the Israeli and Western AD is a power.  There is no point even comparing the Ukrainian one to it.

But can someone be so idiotic jew fanboy as to compare Israeli airspace with Ukrainian airspace?

Israel is the size of a mousetrap.
The Argentine city where I live is half of Israel


Symbolic victory for Iran, at least at the image level.
The United States has already told Israel that there cannot be a regional escalation.
Only fools thought that Israel was going to launch a military invasion of Iran. They have no capacity or support to do so.

— / Contrary to reports, Iran has not used any of its hypersonic or advanced missiles yet against Israel

As of now, it seems the ballistic missiles that were used were of the following types:

1. Emad - Liquid fueled with MaRV & exo-atmospheric cluster submunition decoy 'bomblets'

2. Kheybar Shekan - Solid fueled ultra maneuverable light warhead with MaRV in the final stage

3. Qadr - Liquid fueled heavy warhead missile without MaRV

@Middle_East_Spectator

Eugenio Argentina wrote:— / Contrary to reports, Iran has not used any of its hypersonic or advanced missiles yet against Israel

As of now, it seems the ballistic missiles that were used were of the following types:

1. Emad - Liquid fueled with MaRV & exo-atmospheric cluster submunition decoy 'bomblets'

2. Kheybar Shekan - Solid fueled ultra maneuverable light warhead with MaRV in the final stage

3. Qadr - Liquid fueled heavy warhead missile without MaRV

@Middle_East_Spectator

It's obvious, a hypersonic missile takes a short time to hit. They would have struck before the drones.

the summary of last nights events and video's.

Iranian drone and missile retaliation on Israel

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Iranian-drone-and-missile-retaliation-on-Israel:b

After tonight, we can safely say that Israel has the most powerful AD in the world.

I wonder what your goal is with that comment, besides showing that you are retarded, Israel uses 4 million dollars patriot  and 1 million dollars Amraam  to intercept 20,000 dollars Shahed, only to have its ass raped by ballistic missiles, how that can be considered "the most powerful AD in the world"?!

Russia has also shot at drones with missiles from the S 300, S 400 and Buk M more than once. What is impressive is that Israel intercepted a large number of ballistic missiles.

— / NEW: 'From preliminary information, the main runway at Nevatim airbase seems to have been hit precisely in its center; the Iranians opted to send a message and to restore deterrence, they clearly did not intend for destruction, or we would have seen it' – Israeli Analyst

Arrow wrote:https://m.vk.com/video-123538639_456307728

After tonight, we can safely say that Israel has the most powerful AD in the world.  Of course, thanks to its small territory, it is tightly covered by modern AD systems.

You sound like NAFO in 2022

Once the mighty air defense is depleted, you'll be back to crying again for Patriots

Arrow wrote:Russia has also shot at drones with missiles from the S 300, S 400 and Buk M more than once. What is impressive is that Israel intercepted a large number of ballistic missiles.

Binkov,  go to sleep, you will be crying about depleted air defenses in time



Currently in this stage




You will be here soon    


Nothing impressive about spending 1 billion against 100 shaheds , a typical night in Ukraine and then getting yonked at an airbase after having 12 days warning and 2000km distance to shoot down everything I'm advance

But you are still the village clown for a reason

Arrow wrote:Russia has also shot at drones with missiles from the S 300, S 400 and Buk M more than once. What is impressive is that Israel intercepted a large number of ballistic missiles.

You're a poor fanboy, at least go look for the scrap Abrahams, Leopard and Bradleys in the Ukrainian fields. At least offer to clean up the trash.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

Arrow wrote:Russia has also shot at drones with missiles from the S 300, S 400 and Buk M more than once. What is impressive is that Israel intercepted a large number of ballistic missiles.

You're a poor fanboy, at least go look for the scrap Abrahams, Leopard and Bradleys in the Ukrainian fields. At least offer to clean up the trash.

He is in this stage now

He will be in a different one soon hahaha



Eventually they all end up here

Analysis of the rain (cluster) warhead of Iranian ballistic missiles. Regarding the missile operation, I would like to share a few points that are relevant:

1- As we said, according to the bitter experience we had earlier, fortunately, the burden of flying over the country's sky was lightened in order to increase the operational efficiency of the country's defense.

2- By delaying the operation, the economic shock that was thought to enter the market after Iran's missile revenge and the dollar rise to nearly 100 thousand tomans fortunately did not materialize.

3- This operation drew a detailed map of the defense equipment of Israel, America and Jordan for the armed forces of Iran, which can be used in the next operations.

4- Contrary to the initial news, apparently the number of ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones is less than the space statistics mentioned at the beginning of the attacks, and Iran's goal (as reason required) is simply to break Israel's security taboo and issue an official warning to this fake regime. He was a terrorist.

https://t.me/defender_iran/41531

Najah Wakim, former Lebanese parliamentarian and founder of the People's Movement:

- From 1967 to today... "Israel" did not need anyone to defend itself, while now it needed three countries to repel Iran's drones and missiles.

- "Israel" began to lose its position in exchange for increasing Iran's position in the Middle East.

- "Israel" is losing its place in the political picture in the Middle East.

- There will be repercussions for the Iranian attack inside Israel.

- After the Iranian attack, you will see the rush of the Israelis to escape from "Israel."

- There are more than 800 thousand settlers have left "Israel" since the beginning of the Al Aqsa Flood.

Hole wrote:
That are missile stages.

Exactly.
I have inspected all "intercepted missiles" en route photos I could find.
None has the warhead stage.
NONE.
One out of around ten documented MIGHT have been intercepted, as the section that connects stages/warhead seems seriously damaged - but if a high yield warhead would have been detonated, there is no way that a whole missile stage just retained the integrity.
The thing seems more and more intriguing the more you inspect it.

Belisarius wrote:
I wonder what your goal is with that comment, besides showing that you are retarded, Israel uses 4 million dollars patriot  and 1 million dollars Amraam  to intercept 20,000 dollars Shahed, only to have its ass raped by ballistic missiles, how that can be considered "the most powerful AD in the world"?!

You have inflated one zero.
S136 cost is ten times lower than that.
A cloned engine it uses was being sold at Aliexpress in retail for $500 a piece.
That is the whole magic.
As I have said multiple times, they have reversed the Cold War experience.
And will bankrupt the west as we speak.
They have two options. Sit down to the negotiation table, or try to arm themselves up.
Every single piece of crap they will buy for their armed forces, is ten times more expensive than Russkie can have.
Or 20 times.
A fukin 155mm cal round costs E3000+, or even $8000+.
It is already much more than being ridiculous.
Today's Israeli missile expense was more than $1bln.

Still Israel and especially our help with others did an impressive job. Russians have shown just as capable air defense. Many here in the west do not know the kinds of intricate and large scale attacks that Russia has fended off with its air defense systems. Also this event can also show how Russia has been capable of maintaining air defense after exhausting thousands of expensive missiles. Sadly people here in the west are blind and in a bubble.

TMA1 wrote:Still Israel and especially our help with others did an impressive job. Russians have shown just as capable air defense. Many here in the west do not know the kinds of intricate and large scale attacks that Russia has fended off with its air defense systems. Also this event can also show how Russia has been capable of maintaining air defense after exhausting thousands of expensive missiles. Sadly people here in the west are blind and in a bubble.

Hardly impressive considering it was just the first wave

During 2022, Western AD also performed well, but hardly impressive, after successive attrition we arrived to the part where Russia suppressed the entire IADS of west and Ukraine after 2 years of missile waves and drone waves

Iran is only beginning this chapter, we just see some first waves of attacks

As this carries on and western interceptors are exhausted, we will arrive precisely to the same place we have arrived with regard to the SMO

Zrada for the western fanboys, and a resumption of de-electrification, and demilitarization

Only we just started to observe this process in Israel

Hamas and Houthis with Hezbollah had begun the process of attrition to Lockheed Martin by using cheap rockets

Now Iran joins by using some small drones and few missiles

It is a well known and time proven process , eventually the amount of AMRAAMS, PAC2/3, Iron Domes, and Arrows that are used will bankrupt the western MIC

And a new round of begging will begin

Intercepring a 80 mm diameter sanitation pipe with use of $2mln missile each, fired in two-pcs salvos have some potential, you must admit.

The so called impressive interception happened by like 4+ countries and hundreds of planes to fly around and intercept and then ground systems. Flying over multiple countries before reaching target.

Color me unimpressed really, especially since the missiles still got through and hit the base. These were more basic missiles too compared to what Russia had to deal with. Also compared to what Iran and Russia actually have too.

ALAMO wrote:Intercepring a 80 mm diameter sanitation pipe with use of $2mln missile each, fired in two-pcs salvos have some potential, you must admit.

$500 - cost for a Shahed
$80 - cost for a katyusha
100k$ - for some Kheibar MRBM

Watching the US MIC go bankrupt - priceless

Do you remember when Muricans told us we would find out why they don't have Healthcare as they went to face the houthis bravely?

After the first couple of interceptions the bravado quickly turned into a "please don't "

Houthis bankrupted a whole fleet without doing so much as a couple of launches and a whistle for the lifeguard chair

It is now apparent that Iran gave warning in advance to the US so they had ample time to prepare, but still this is a clear warning to the Israelis and it's allies that the days of acting with impunity is over.

Also apparent is that a couple of hours of "defending" against cheap Iranian missiles and drones had a hefty price tag of U$1.3 billion. A single Arrow missile is priced at U$3.5 million. Something even the US taxpayers can't afford on a sustained level. This figure does not include the US and it's allies expenditure.

AND it is also apparent that this was only a warning shot over the bow by the Iranians!

I can't wait for the Hollywood footage of Patriots and Arrows "annihilating" the Iranian "terrorist attack"!

PS - I would also add that a deliberate attack by military means, on a foreign country's consulate in another foreign country, is not only an actual terrorist attack - in violation of international law, but also a clear declaration of war.

Armchair Warlord
@ArmchairW
Never thought I'd be in favor of cope propaganda, but here we go - right now the US is pretty clearly trying to get Israel to claim they shot everything down, declare victory, and forego a retaliatory attack on Iran.

In reality I expect 50% of Iranian ballistics fired penetrated as well as an unknown number of cruise missiles, indicating troubling underperformance by Israeli and American missile defenses - which were engineered to defeat this specific threat. In a rather telling admission CENTCOM only claimed three missiles downed (with what I assume was THAAD) despite what would have been dozens of engagement opportunities. There were about twenty ballistic arrivals caught on video last night and God only knows what else came in that eluded the cameras.

But, hey, whatever keeps a regional war from kicking off and allows Netanyahu to come off the ledge with some kind of grace. We're gonna cope our way to peace in the Middle East, folks.

Arkanghelsk wrote:
$500 - cost for a Shahed

Let's not overreact.
It is $2k

Arrow wrote:Russia has also shot at drones with missiles from the S 300, S 400 and Buk M more than once. What is impressive is that Israel intercepted a large number of ballistic missiles.

The difference is Russia can sustain this effort indefinitely. They actually have the oversized capacity to manufacture replacements SAM systems and interceptors; even now they are fulfilling orders for export customers - go figure. Only Russia can invert the missile defence dynamic and actually outlast the attacker which is exactly what they did against Ukraine's massive stocks of Tochka and HIMARS.