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A Fox News journalist in Israel has been arrested for showing that Iranian missiles have impacted Israeli gas field in Mediterranean sea during operation true promise-2.
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A Fox News journalist in Israel has been arrested for showing that Iranian missiles have impacted Israeli gas field in Mediterranean sea during operation true promise-2.@ResistanceTrench |GarryB, GunshipDemocracy and SolidarityWithRussia like this post
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The more things change the more they stay the same...
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39 members of the Iranian Parliament have called for a revision of the country's defense doctrine to allow for the production of nuclear weapons which Iran has so far asserted does not seek, according to a Wednesday report by Dideban Iran news website.
https://ifpnews.com/iranian-mps-revision-nuclear-weapons-doctrine/
I hop ethey already have it only making public debates like the USA with missiles for nazi ukies
https://ifpnews.com/iranian-mps-revision-nuclear-weapons-doctrine/
I hop ethey already have it only making public debates like the USA with missiles for nazi ukies
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GarryB wrote:
The more things change the more they stay the same...
Zionists are the only people who can be perpetual victim and war criminals at the same time
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This may be propaganda as to location but it does appear likely that they hit the radar, wherever it actually was.
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JohninMK wrote:This may be propaganda as to location but it does appear likely that they hit the radar, wherever it actually was.
meh, the same propaganda in Ukraine. Russian claimed so many Patriot batteries but we all know there were just decoys
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A US Army Air Defense Battery will arrive in Israel in order to prepare for any possible Iranian reaction to an Israeli response.It will be a THAAD battery
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No decision made on possible deployment of THAAD system to Israel – US defense official
The United States has not made a decision yet to deploy its THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system in Israel amid rising tensions with Iran, a US defense official told Sputnik.
"A decision has not yet been made," the official said.
Earlier in the day, Israeli media reported (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34874) that the US would deploy its THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system to Israel to protect it from Iranian attacks should Israel conduct retaliatory strikes on Iranian territory. The THAAD system would reportedly be operated by US soldiers.
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The United States has not made a decision yet to deploy its THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system in Israel amid rising tensions with Iran, a US defense official told Sputnik.
"A decision has not yet been made," the official said.
Earlier in the day, Israeli media reported (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34874) that the US would deploy its THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system to Israel to protect it from Iranian attacks should Israel conduct retaliatory strikes on Iranian territory. The THAAD system would reportedly be operated by US soldiers.
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Operation True Promise II: Review On Iran’s Missile Attack On Israeli RegimeOn Tuesday (October 1) at 8:00 p.m. local time, the Iranian Armed Forces attacked military positions of the Tel Aviv regime in various regions of occupied Palestine, when they fired dozens of ballistic and hypersonic missiles.
The targets were:
Mossad HQs north of Tel AvivTel Nof Airbase south of Tel AvivNevatim Airbase south of the occupied PalestineHatzerim Airbase south of the occupied PalestineOvda Airbase south of the occupied Palestine#Iran #Israel
Read the assessment of the attack and an analysis of the areas targeted in the operation here: https://english.iswnews.com/36492/operation-true-promise-ii-review-on-irans-missile-attack-on-israeli-regime/
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No decision made on possible deployment of THAAD system to Israel – US defense official
The funny thing is that this system is horrendously expensive, and would likely not be any more effective than Patriot against most targets...
It is intended for ATBM roles for use against theatre ballistic missiles and has little to no capacity against aircraft or cruise missiles.
And like the Patriot there is nothing in development to replace it when it fails publicly.
When Patriot failed to deal with Scuds in Desert Storm they could at least claim the PAC-3 ABM version would fix the problem... it didn't...
And using SAMs costing 5-10 million dollars a pop to shoot down Geraniums is a good example of the criminal corruption in the US MIC.
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Yedioth Ahronoth: The damage to property resulting from the Iranian attack on October 1st was significant.The damage to "civilian property" is estimated to be between 150 to 200 million shekels (~ $60m to $80m USD).
This is the largest damage caused by a single missile attack (the Iranian attack) on "Israel" since the beginning of the war.
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Now they have confirmed that THAAD is being sent to Israel.
What purpose will it serve that ARROW 3, SM -3, SM-6 are not serving already? Just an advertisement opportunity.
What purpose will it serve that ARROW 3, SM -3, SM-6 are not serving already? Just an advertisement opportunity.
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The purpose is the lack of Arrow interceptors and the pathetic effects of the remaining stuff.
After April attack, Jews officially called the PAC3 effectiveness much below any expectation and called for a mass rearmament to locally produced David's Sling.
After April attack, Jews officially called the PAC3 effectiveness much below any expectation and called for a mass rearmament to locally produced David's Sling.
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By the way, I wonder how ARROW compares to THAAD 
The Israeli system is probably better. PAC-3 has not proven itself anywhere in general. In the Middle East in Saudi Arabia, in Ukraine in Israel. SM-3 probably won't either, and the US advertises it as an ICBM and SLBM interceptor 
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— // NEW: Axios reports that the deployment of a THAAD battery and U.S. military personnel to Israel indicates that Israel's stocks of 'Arrow' and 'David's Sling' interceptors were significantly depleted by Iran's October 1 ballistic missile attack.
While a U.S. military THAAD system was deployed to Israel in 2019 for an exercise, this marks the first operational deployment. This also follows the last time the U.S. sent troops and a Patriot missile system to Israel during the Gulf War in 1991.
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// NEW: Axios reports that the deployment of a THAAD battery and U.S. military personnel to Israel indicates that Israel's stocks of 'Arrow' and 'David's Sling' interceptors were significantly depleted by Iran's October 1 ballistic missile attack.While a U.S. military THAAD system was deployed to Israel in 2019 for an exercise, this marks the first operational deployment. This also follows the last time the U.S. sent troops and a Patriot missile system to Israel during the Gulf War in 1991.
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Did the Israelis publicly denounce the PAC-3? Generally speaking, US allies are not allowed to do that (even Generative AI isn't).ALAMO wrote:After April attack, Jews officially called the PAC3 effectiveness much below any expectation and called for a mass rearmament to locally produced David's Sling.
Re David's Sling the videos released suggest that even its performance has been sub optimal.
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Iranian perspective on THAAD vs Kheybar ballistic missile
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Sujoy wrote:
Did the Israelis publicly denounce the PAC-3?
Yes.
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THAAD deployment in Israel risks overwhelming Western hegemon unable to ‘fight on multiple fronts’
US plans to deploy a THAAD missile system in Israel (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34916) signal that Washington is now firmly “stuck” in the war in the Middle East, even though this is “something that most probably the Biden administration doesn’t want,” Beirut-based political analyst Yeghia Tashjian told Sputnik.
The White House has every reason to want to avoid further involvement, the observer, who serves as coordinator of regional and international affairs studies at the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs, believes, pointing to the upcoming US elections and the importance of the Arab voting bloc in swing states for the Democrats, and general apathy among Americans in a new Mideast misadventure.
Internationally, an escalation in the Mideast could delay further US and NATO arms deliveries to Ukraine, Tashjian said. “The West cannot fight on multiple fronts,” the observer stressed, noting that besides Gaza, Lebanon and Ukraine the US may soon have its hands full against a rising China and North Korea.
The US would prefer a “managed conflict” between Israel and Hezbollah or Israel and Iran, Tashjian said. Whether Washington can achieve this goal is another story, since Prime Minister Netanyahu “is not in favor of managing this war or even engaging in a ceasefire,” but prolonging it and ensnaring the US.
“The main intention of Israel is to involve the Americans directly into this war, because Netanyahu has made it clear that he wants to change and establish a ‘new Middle East’. In this attempt, he needs American, British and other European help because he cannot fight on multiple fronts and especially against Iran,” which showed on October 1 that it “has capabilities to attack and inflict some damage against Israel,” Tashjian summed up.
US plans to deploy a THAAD missile system in Israel (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34916) signal that Washington is now firmly “stuck” in the war in the Middle East, even though this is “something that most probably the Biden administration doesn’t want,” Beirut-based political analyst Yeghia Tashjian told Sputnik.
The White House has every reason to want to avoid further involvement, the observer, who serves as coordinator of regional and international affairs studies at the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs, believes, pointing to the upcoming US elections and the importance of the Arab voting bloc in swing states for the Democrats, and general apathy among Americans in a new Mideast misadventure.
Internationally, an escalation in the Mideast could delay further US and NATO arms deliveries to Ukraine, Tashjian said. “The West cannot fight on multiple fronts,” the observer stressed, noting that besides Gaza, Lebanon and Ukraine the US may soon have its hands full against a rising China and North Korea.
The US would prefer a “managed conflict” between Israel and Hezbollah or Israel and Iran, Tashjian said. Whether Washington can achieve this goal is another story, since Prime Minister Netanyahu “is not in favor of managing this war or even engaging in a ceasefire,” but prolonging it and ensnaring the US.
“The main intention of Israel is to involve the Americans directly into this war, because Netanyahu has made it clear that he wants to change and establish a ‘new Middle East’. In this attempt, he needs American, British and other European help because he cannot fight on multiple fronts and especially against Iran,” which showed on October 1 that it “has capabilities to attack and inflict some damage against Israel,” Tashjian summed up.
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An important aspect of the THAAD is that it is an American system and would need American soldiers to operate it because there is no time to train locals for the job.
Regarding air defence performance I would say most Israeli and US systems have failed spectacularly... the Israelis might prefer their local failures to foreign failures because at least they are local and probably not costing them as much as the Americans are charging them... leaving less amongst the donations from the US to buy other more practical things that make life worth living.
Of all the systems of air defence from the west the ones I would rate the best would be the naval SAMs like Standard SM2 and SM3, because the Navy was really their only military branch that took air defence seriously and didn't always expect the Air Force to save the day with air power.
The reasons Zircon and Onyx and Kh-32 are so powerful is because US carrier groups had good air defence systems.
Of course Iskander is so good because perhaps the Russians and Soviets believed the hype about western air defence and just assumed it was as good as their own.... and it isn't.
Now they are looking at longer ranged simpler cheaper weapons they can mass produce in volumes to wipe out their enemies, now and in the future, while using their more expensive and capable models to take out any air defence systems they might have or develop that is effective.
Regarding air defence performance I would say most Israeli and US systems have failed spectacularly... the Israelis might prefer their local failures to foreign failures because at least they are local and probably not costing them as much as the Americans are charging them... leaving less amongst the donations from the US to buy other more practical things that make life worth living.
Of all the systems of air defence from the west the ones I would rate the best would be the naval SAMs like Standard SM2 and SM3, because the Navy was really their only military branch that took air defence seriously and didn't always expect the Air Force to save the day with air power.
The reasons Zircon and Onyx and Kh-32 are so powerful is because US carrier groups had good air defence systems.
Of course Iskander is so good because perhaps the Russians and Soviets believed the hype about western air defence and just assumed it was as good as their own.... and it isn't.
Now they are looking at longer ranged simpler cheaper weapons they can mass produce in volumes to wipe out their enemies, now and in the future, while using their more expensive and capable models to take out any air defence systems they might have or develop that is effective.
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— 
NEW: After weeks of speculation and fake Israeli-backed news, IRGC Quds Force Commander Ismael Qaani was seen live on Iranian TV this morning
Brigadier General Ismael Qaani was present at the welcoming ceremony of General Abbas Nilforoushan's body, who was martyred in Beirut alongside Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah about 20 days ago.
Brigadier General Qaani is not dead, nor arrested for being a Zionist spy, nor did he get a 'heart attack' during 'interrogations'. Never believe the enemy's narrative.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11074
NEW: After weeks of speculation and fake Israeli-backed news, IRGC Quds Force Commander Ismael Qaani was seen live on Iranian TV this morningBrigadier General Ismael Qaani was present at the welcoming ceremony of General Abbas Nilforoushan's body, who was martyred in Beirut alongside Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah about 20 days ago.
Brigadier General Qaani is not dead, nor arrested for being a Zionist spy, nor did he get a 'heart attack' during 'interrogations'. Never believe the enemy's narrative.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11074
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— Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the IRGC, Admiral Ali Fadavi: 'The territory of occupied Palestine (Israel) is extremely small, it's so small that it isn't even the size of some of the smallest Iranian provinces – if we decided to, we could easily eradicate the Zionists at once'
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11078
Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the IRGC, Admiral Ali Fadavi: 'The territory of occupied Palestine (Israel) is extremely small, it's so small that it isn't even the size of some of the smallest Iranian provinces – if we decided to, we could easily eradicate the Zionists at once'https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11078
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| The THAAD defense system and several dozen US soldiers arrived in Occupied Palestine on Monday, confirmed by Pentagon.The Pentagon says that over the coming days, additional US military personnel and THAAD battery components will continue to arrive in Occupied Palestine.
If American assets get killed or destroyed, that’s on themselves.
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Not a good news for Israeli systems if they have to bring a THAAD from the united states. Either they are running out of missiles either they really don't have the capability to stop hypersonic missiles at all. Should be amix of both.
They intercepted a number of iranian missiles but probably the normal ones and not the hypersonic ones.
Next iranian attack could involve another huge salvo of drones to empty even more their stock of expensive missiles and even deplate NATO air to air missiles stocks in the region. Specially if Russia gifts them a thousand of Geran-2.
That's why israeli are not striking back, they faced the reality. For a long time they thought their own propaganda thinking their AD is the best. They found out iranian can just oblige them to use their total stock of missiles in few attacks and still have thousands of ballistic missiles.
They intercepted a number of iranian missiles but probably the normal ones and not the hypersonic ones.
Next iranian attack could involve another huge salvo of drones to empty even more their stock of expensive missiles and even deplate NATO air to air missiles stocks in the region. Specially if Russia gifts them a thousand of Geran-2.
That's why israeli are not striking back, they faced the reality. For a long time they thought their own propaganda thinking their AD is the best. They found out iranian can just oblige them to use their total stock of missiles in few attacks and still have thousands of ballistic missiles.
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Israel has the best AD in the world. But even the best and most powerful AD in the world cannot stop a salvo of 200 ballistic missiles.