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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:05 am

    🇯🇴🇮🇷🇮🇱Jordanians watch Iranian missiles hit Israel on October 1.


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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:24 am

    Mixed messages sure to encourage bad behaviour by Israel !

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    Yeah, it is mixed messages from Iran that encourages bad behaviour from Israel... nothing at all to do with the white European super power who backs them up no matter what they do...

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    Post  nomadski Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:24 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Mixed messages sure to encourage bad behaviour by Israel !

    angry

    Yeah, it is mixed messages from Iran that encourages bad behaviour from Israel... nothing at all to do with the white European super power who backs them up no matter what they do...

    They are consistent . Iran is not . A Leopard never changes it's spots . But a chameleon does .



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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:11 pm

    🇮🇷| NEW: An aide to IRGC chief commander:

    There will be no war, but to save face, Israel might target 1 point in Iran, in response, we’ll target tens of security, military and economic centers. We had launched 200 missiles recently, but we are prepared to launch thousands of missiles if necessary.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:12 pm

    🇮🇷| IRGC Aide to commander in chief:

    Operation True Promise-2 was kind of a reconnaissance for the deadly strikes that we will inflict upon them later.

    Be informed, and let the enemy be informed as well, that Hezbollah's system has been fully rebuilt, and today it is at the peak of its power and readiness, and they will avenge the martyr Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:14 pm

    🇮🇷| IRGC Aide to commander in chief:

    Israel is in a position of weakness socially, nationally, economically, politically, and even militarily. I say this as someone who’s informed.

    As the Leader of the revolution, Imam Khamenei, describes, Israel behaves like a rabid dog; the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Resistance Front know how to handle this rabid dog; let them do their job.
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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:01 pm

    https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/clarity-after-iran-strike-as-israel

    A long but worthwhile analysis about the recent events from simplicius the thinker.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:43 pm

    📹 Giant fragments of Iranian ballistic missiles more than ten meters long are being transported to one of the Israeli army bases, a Sputnik correspondent reports

    The Israeli military says that Iran used missiles weighing up to 18 tons for the attack, which are capable of demolishing entire buildings upon impact.

    The video shows the fuel tank of the Kheibar Shekan missile.



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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:05 pm

    if the number is correct they made my day Smile



    IRGC confirms destruction of numerous Israeli F-35s in Iranian missile strike

    It was earlier reported that more than 20 Israeli Air Force F-35 aircraft were hit during an IRGC missile strike on Israel
    DUBAI, October 9. /TASS/. Major General Ebrahim Jabbari, an advisor to the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), confirmed reports that parked Israeli F-35 jets were destroyed during a recent Iranian missile strike on Israel's infrastructure.

    "In this operation, Iran's missiles successfully struck important military facilities and hangars of Israeli criminals' F-35 fighter jets, which destroyed a significant number of these fighters. This was only a small part of the defense capabilities of our country's armed forces," the Iranian Defense Ministry's press service quoted the general as saying.

    "The Americans and Zionists (meaning Israel - TASS) used all their latest weapons to confront us during Operation True Promise 2, but from a military and intelligence standpoint, they were taken off guard by the suddenness [of the operation]," Jabbari said. Iran referred to the recent missile strike on Israel as Operation True Promise 2, an extension of True Promise 1, an Iranian attack on Israel in April 2024 in response to Israeli shelling of the Islamic Republic's consulate in Damascus.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:30 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:🇮🇷| IRGC Aide to commander in chief:

    Israel is in a position of weakness socially, nationally, economically, politically, and even militarily. I say this as someone who’s informed.

    As the Leader of the revolution, Imam Khamenei, describes, Israel behaves like a rabid dog; the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Resistance Front know how to handle this rabid dog; let them do their job.

    All the absolute horrific genocidal shit done by the Israeli's aside for just a moment. , and looking purely at the strategic point of view.

    Ever since 7 October, Israel under Netanyahu is undergoing one strategic blunder after the next.

    - He went in to free the hostages and eliminate Hamas once and for all.
    Netanyahu failed, Hamas is still active and he killed a good part of the hostages. around 100 still remain unaccounted for.

    - Hezbollah has turned North Israel in a no-mans land, before finishing the Gaza OP he jumped on Hezbollah to return the Israeli settlers to the north.
    Netanyahu should have listened to his the advisers, that Hezbollah has undergone rapid development, expansion and arming during the ISIS war.
    Instead, Hezbollah has expanded it's no-mans land zone in Israel, exhausted the Iron dome in the northern Israeli territory's and now started to trigger more evacuations in towns and cities.
    Including cancelling  continuation of everyday life in these area's.
    Israel's "crack" troops entering Lebanon have been send back to Israel in body bags these last weeks without gaining any territory that is worth anything.

    -Political assassination's/terror ops in foreign countries, violating political norms and national sovereignity.
    All these strikes in Syria and Iraq where desperate attempts to try to restore some sort of control. Witch clearly failed.
    Israel also played a high-stake bluff game with Iran. Where it was not clear for a while how Iran publicly stood in this game.

    I really understand Iran's position in this for not making rash decisions.
    First, the cost of war is very high. You will take casualty's along the way. No matter how big your advantage may be.
    Good people will die, you will lose infrastructure that takes years or decades to restore. It costs a lot of money.

    Israel's unhinged mentality and their nuclear "samson" option. Witch is a nuclear doomsday strike on the nation(s) that are about to destroy Isreal.
    Israel also used this as nuclear blackmail to the U.S when they where about to fall to the Arab forces during the Yom Kippur war to get unlimited weapons and supply's from the U.S

    While this threat is just as alive today as it was back then, the strategic situation has changed a lot.
    The Internet nowadays shows you the raw truth of what the people film on their phone to the world.
    The U.S Wars and ISIS sponsored groups sowed deep seated hatred to Israel and it's Patron.
    Iran made massive BM complexes deep inside it's mountain ranges, invested in suicide drones, precision BM weaponry they demonstrated it's effectiveness off a few times now.
    Meanwhile, Israel can not reach Iran Airspace without having to refuel along the way. This is only possible by aerial refueling or nearby airbases.
    No nearby country will risk their oil infrastructure to Iranian retaliation if they aid Israel in an strike.

    Iran just can keep up obliterating Isreali Infrastructure, city's and millitary target's without Israel not being able to neutralize that threat.

    an Iron dome missile cost around 150.000 dollars per piece. each Davids sling interceptor around 700.000?. 1 Million?.
    and all Resistance party's recognized the critical flaw in this and exploited this since this all started.

    Western arms manufacturers are deeply corrupt, and can not switch to an war-economy setting.
    Weapons are overly complicated, not suitable for war-time conditions and it's infrastructure behind it is not up to the task of producing the numbers needed in times of crisis.

    A few weeks ago, Iron domes ran out in the North of Israel. Then they pulled supplies from the South and when Yemen launched missiles got through without being stopped.
    Now also in the North Iron domes ran out, and Hezbollah switched to heavier ordance since now their salvo's are getting through.

    It is my view that by conventional means, Israel is being whiped slowly off the map bit by bit.
    It is an process they can not stop at this point, Netanyahu initiated too many fronts he can not turn back from.

    Khamenei and the rest see this and i think that is why they refer to him as the Rabid dog.
    What i find the most notable thing to note of recent weeks is the Iranian retaliatory attack on Isreali facilities.

    Iran launched more than was necessary in hindsight, expecting more resistance of AA on the the target sites.
    But as we all saw, Israel's AA did near nothing on the Iranian BM onslaught.
    Iran also clearly showed they are not afraid to see this thing all the way through.
    Including Israel's Samson option.

    I personally think what you see here, is the middle eastern players wiping out the state of Israel in the next 5 to 10 years.
    With what you see now with the Axis of Resistance getting the upper hand more day by day, and with what all the sacrifices you made already.
    you Let your enemy escape to learn of it's mistakes and go for round two?. Miss the goal you all want most?. Make another cease-fire deal?.
    or you see this thing through now you have the advantage? and work to force their expulsion from the middle east?.

    I know what choice here makes the most sense.
    There was a point i would choose for the two-state solution.

    I was already critical of israel for it warcrimes ever since i learned of it.

    But after all the nightmare fuel i watched in Telegram, how Israeli's take absolute delight of killing women and children.
    American Bunker-busters pancaking a multi-story building with people partially crushed inside the rubble still alive.
    Mosques, hospitals, schools. nothing is safe.

    And with Lebanon it is the exact same shit since day one, and all the vids of the pager/radio terror exploding.
    Teachers, hospital workers, it was not only Hezbollah. this blew everyone's limbs off.

    I can confidently say now, Israel does not deserve to exist.
    They came there, took land that was not theirs.
    And made co-existence impossible with all their neighbors by their own actions.

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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:21 pm

    @AirborneWolf

    But according to the zealots there was nobody there when they moved in. Supposedly they bought all the land and the Palestinians showed up
    later because of all the riches that the Jewish settlers brought with them. Funny BS since the story in the West Bank demonstrates that the
    land is obtained by terrorist tactics and ethnic cleansing. If the Jews moved into empty land, then they would not need to colonize the territory
    with Palestinians already on it.

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    Post  nomadski Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:58 pm

    @ Airbornewolf

    A nice post . Agree Israel being slowly destroyed , but frontline forces are rapidly being destroyed . At present rate , no Palestinians left in a couple of years , and no Israel left in six to seven years . That is if the axis continues the fight  at the same rate , without Palestinian or even Lebanese forces . Like to add that the Israel minister just made the threat " ...we will hit Iran in a precise and deadly and surprising way . "  This was reported by BBC today . But Iranians in all their retaliation avoided deliberate use of deadly force .

    Therefore there is difference of view : The Israelis believe in live and let die . The Iranians believe in live and let live . Who is right ? I believe Israelis are more right than wrong , because the environmental factors do not allow peaceful coexistence . And Iranians should be aware of this reality . But live and let die to what end ? Do environmental factors allow for " live, " after all the dying business is over ? I believe not . Therefore what we see in reality , is die and let die . A zero state solution . Interminable war .
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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:32 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:

    All the absolute horrific genocidal shit done by the Israeli's aside for just a moment. , and looking purely at the strategic point of view.

    Ever since 7 October, Israel under Netanyahu is undergoing one strategic blunder after the next.

    - He went in to free the hostages and eliminate Hamas once and for all.
    Netanyahu failed, Hamas is still active and he killed a good part of the hostages. around 100 still remain unaccounted for.

    - Hezbollah has turned North Israel in a no-mans land, before finishing the Gaza OP he jumped on Hezbollah to return the Israeli settlers to the north.

    Totally agree .

    netanyahu is a stupid serial killer who seeks for nearly impossible targets like completely eliminating the resistance in Middle East .

    That's why he is killing babies and women but till now and after a year of bombing and invading a very small area like Gaza , IDF still can't secure the land from Hamas , on the other side the serial killer went to kill Hezbollah leaders and bombing Lebanon but till now he can't go through borders with his serial killers to eliminate Hezbollah forces who is winning till now by removing the izraeli people from the north , easy target which could be achieved by cheap rockets vs nearly impossible targets in netanyahu's head .

    Israel is losing at all aspects and draining it's power , yeah US is backing it's tiny terrorist alleged state but it will lose too because as they say the land fights along with her real owners .

    The blood of this entire family who was killed a long with other families will not go away ,it doesn't matter you believe in God or nature or anything but Justice will be served at the end.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:37 am

    ❗ATTENTION: There are a lot of rumors going on regarding the whereabouts of IRGC Quds Force General Ismael Qaani.

    First, they claimed he was killed in an Israeli aistrike in Dahye. Now, they claim he is being interrogated in Iran for being an Israeli spy or for facilitating Israeli espionage into Hezbollah's command structure.

    All of these reports, which are being quoted on Israel's Channel 14, Kann, and so on, originate from a single report on 'Middle East Eye', a UK-based news outlet. They quote an anonymous source.

    Until and unless the IRGC comes out with a statement, any reports regarding the General's whereabouts should be totally disregarded. This is enemy propaganda.

    @Middle_East_Spectator

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:29 pm

    Hebrew media: An official told CNN that the political-security cabinet will hold a meeting tonight to vote on Israel's response to the Iranian attack

    " This is in the shadow of reports about preparations for possible action and ongoing talks between Washington and Israel"
    (Count yourself and see how many times they have said that the cabinet will decide tonight )

    According to the Reuters report, arab countries of the Persian Gulf region are putting pressure on the US to prevent the attack of Israel on Iran's oil facilities in line with the preparation for Israel action.

    The arab countries of the Persian Gulf region - Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar - fear getting caught up in the escalation of the war. As Reuters reported, the message sent to the Biden administration in Washington is that they will not allow flights over their airspace as part of a strike.

    In the shadow of the publication of reports that it was preparing to attack Iran, Tehran gave strong messages to the countries of the Persian Gulf region and demanded that they not allow the passage of Israeli planes to attack Iran.

    "Fears in Saudi Arabia grew amid talk that oil facilities could be targeted. An Iranian source told Reuters that Iranian Foriegn minister has threatened the Saudis MBS that if they help Israel in this attack, it cannot guarantee the security of Saudi oil facilities."

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:30 pm

    🔻 The security officer of the Iraqi Hezbollah battalions:

    Our response to any invasion of Iraq's territory or the use of our country's skies to hit Iran does not end with only hitting the Zionist regime, but also aims at targeting US bases in Iraq and the region.

    We haven't started an energy war yet, if we do, the world would lose 12 million barrels of oil a day, and we're prepared to do it.

    This is just our answer, God knows what our brothers in Yemen in Bab al-Mandeb and our Iranian brothers will do in the Strait of Hormuz.

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