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lyle6 wrote:
The difference is Russia can sustain this effort indefinitely. They actually have the oversized capacity to manufacture replacements SAM systems and interceptors; even now they are fulfilling orders for export customers - go figure. Only Russia can invert the missile defence dynamic and actually outlast the attacker which is exactly what they did against Ukraine's massive stocks of Tochka and HIMARS.
Don't get overreacted to take down this dumb troll.
404 was left with a stock of 400-1000 Tochka missiles.
Nobody has ever revealed the real number, so the difference is because of that.
It the Russkie took the unitary stocks while withdrawing, or not, what number was sold abroad, etc.
General conclusion is, that they are out of those anyway, with some single pcs left.
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dionis wrote:Any satellite shots of something of value actually being hit yet?
Who will release any photos of any value? US/EU commercial
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The CIA spent untold billions vacuuming the shit out of warehouses of Soviet crap from anyone who will take their monopoly money. Russia could have very well face tanked the entire world stockpile of Tochka missiles that aren't held in their reserve stash. They certainly did against NATO's total wartime stock of HIMARS missiles which is why Israel couldn't seem to fire any throughout their own clusterfuck of a war.ALAMO wrote:
Don't get overreacted to take down this dumb troll.
404 was left with a stock of 400-1000 Tochka missiles.
Nobody has ever revealed the real number, so the difference is because of that.
It the Russkie took the unitary stocks while withdrawing, or not, what number was sold abroad, etc.
General conclusion is, that they are out of those anyway, with some single pcs left.
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The point is that most of the cruise missiles, suicide drones, and even ballistic missiles were “fired with the aim of saturating the air defense systems,” and predetermined targets were hit by a number of other ballistic missiles that passed through the Israeli regime’s defensive barrier. This method and approach are quite common in the world for dealing with air defense systems. So, do not be deceived by the lies and false propaganda of the MSM about the lack of success and interception of all missiles and drones!
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Lets remind ourselves, what proportion of US/NATO cruise missiles does this encompass?
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When it comes to the financial burden and staggering costs that Israel has incurred, there are also very important points to consider. You can pay attention to the estimated figures for last night’s operations. Quoting FieldMarshal, an independent analyst of Iranian defense and industrial technologies, the approximate cost to Iran for carrying out last night’s attacks is estimated as follows: 110 ballistic missiles: $30-50 million, 45 cruise missiles: $4-7 million, and 170 Shahed drones: $4-5 million, totaling approximately $38-62 million for Iran.
On the other hand, however, the Israeli costs will be staggering: Considering an estimated number of 300-400 aircraft that were likely in operation for 4-10 hours, with an average hourly cost of $30,000 to $40,000, the cost would be $50-160 million. The cost of intercepting cruise missiles and suicide drones: $100-150 million, and the cost of intercepting ballistic missiles: $500-700 million. Taking into account the estimated damage caused by the ballistic missiles, somewhere between $100 million to $500 million, the Israeli regime has incurred a total of $750 million in the most pessimistic scenario, or $1.5 billion in the most optimistic scenario!!!
This amount of staggering cost “just for enduring one night of attack only for repelling one wave of attack” translates into the complete economic collapse of the Zionists. If the battles continue for just a few days, the economy of the Israeli regime will be completely paralyzed and destroyed! This is another clear and obvious example that the Zionists do not have the capability to engage in long-term warfare, or better yet, even short-term warfare with the Islamic Republic of Iran, and that is why they are extremely concerned about responding to Iran’s last night attacks.
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Operational cost of a fighter jet + pay for the pilot + missiles for the actual shot down... $$$$$$$The interceptions in the video were carried out using fighter jets.
As I stated before, Iran could do this the whole week.Hardly impressive considering it was just the first wave
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Something Russia did on a daily bases in the last 2 years.What is impressive is that Israel intercepted a large number of ballistic missiles.
Along a 1.000+ km long fontline.
Without 2.000km of distance between the launch point and the state border.
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That can’t happen. Iran does not control the strait of Hormuz. Iran was quoting UN convention, well that same UN convention on the law of the sea, provides for the principle of transit of passage thru straits used for international navigation.
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Trigger the AD, make them spend gazillion worth of missiles.
You won't?
Perfect! Those will hit
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JohninMK wrote:IAF film from last night showing just how vulnerable slow flying drones/missiles are to air to air weapons.
Lets remind ourselves, what proportion of US/NATO cruise missiles does this encompass?
If 99% of the 320 missiles and drones were intercepted so how do they explain the videos showing more than 20 direct hits?!
Someone needs some basic mathematics lessons
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They show 5 interceptions but claim it were 150+.NEW: Israel releases footage of them, with help from the US, UK and Jordan, intercepting 99% of all drones & missiles launched at them during last night’s attack.
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All the drones where downed by amraams paid by US taxpayers.
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Isos wrote:Israel has the best AD in the world. They have all nato equipement at disposition whenever they want. It's not even a joke but the reality.
All the drones where downed by amraams paid by US taxpayers.
Or British.
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Isos wrote:Israel has the best AD in the world. They have all nato equipement at disposition whenever they want. It's not even a joke but the reality.
All the drones where downed by amraams paid by US taxpayers.
...yet, you have vids confirming multiple hits at crucial military targets.
How to explain that?
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Isos wrote:Israel has the best AD in the world. They have all nato equipement at disposition whenever they want. It's not even a joke but the reality.
All the drones where downed by amraams paid by US taxpayers.
There is no evidence proving that they have
shoot down even 10% of the drones launched.
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Belisarius wrote:
There is no evidence proving that they have
shoot down even 10% of the drones launched.
Don't geet hyped in a reverse direction.
They surely did.
Tens.
Dozens.
How is if even relevant?
Iranians clearly hit at least two of the major bases.
Who was an end receiver of the missiles that struck "in nowhere"?
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They were unlucky.How to explain that?
Of course, Iran does control the strait.Iran does not control the strait of Hormuz.
The strait doesn´t belong to Iran legaly, but he how has the long-range anti-ship missiles controls the sea!!!
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Tell that the Iranian ships captured by the west on their way to Syria or elsewhere.provides for the principle of transit of passage thru straits used for international navigation.
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For maybe 3 similar attacks. Then they are as defenceless as Timbuktu because last night's attack tore through 3 months of Raytheon's production in 3 hours.Isos wrote:Israel has the best AD in the world. They have all nato equipement at disposition whenever they want. It's not even a joke but the reality.
All the drones where downed by amraams paid by US taxpayers.
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So according to an Israeli general the cost for intercepting the recent Iranian attack is over 1 billion dollars. At first I did not believe it, because this is huge for only one attack. Even if 99% of the missiles were intercepted, it would not justify the cost. The West will certainly not solve this problem by simply printing money to sustain this on the long run.
Maybe that is why the US is telling Israel to back down.
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Also the article confirms that no deaths have been admitted so far. For now it looks like a new war will not break out.
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