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MirVikhr or Ataka with the laser sensor of the Krasnopol?[/quote]marcellogo wrote:
Too slow. I think Alamo could be right with Fagot - but how about Svir/Refleks?
I'm sure it could be lazed externally??
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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
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Too slow. I think Alamo could be right with Fagot - but how about Svir/Refleks?
I'm sure it could be lazed externally??
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
higurashihougi Tue May 14, 2024 8:59 pm
Hole wrote:What swamp? We are talking about the most efficient military in the world.
And Belousov has no clue about military matters.
My take: He is just a deputy of Shoigu.
Economy determines military. War is not battle tactics or weapons, but logistics, sustained funding, and organization.
Put Belousov into the position of Defense Ministry means Putin recognizes that the long-term objectives of Russian Army is not the victory in the special military operation, but is the total improvement of policy, organization, weapons production, and R&D in the miliatry. That includes fixing the issues of corruption, stolen of fund and military equipment, red-tape bureaucracy, problems in welfare for veterans, which are still concerning issues. There are cases of stolen military equipments that is sold illegally by the commanders and the conscripts and grunts are left with old and less optimal weapons and arms, happened right at the beginning or before the beginning of the special military operation.
Clearly, victory in the special military operation must be coupled with total improvement of the army in general, and also the economic and logistic basis that sustain the army. If not, the accomplishment of the operation will be for naught.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
higurashihougi Tue May 14, 2024 9:14 pm
Regarding the images of 12 Maidan UAV is destroyed by Russia
https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/posts/pfbid02LFbL3mxQ5xSZvPgNfGfJxzttwrFrP1FgRuNuNDp5kC3eGJmQ83DWjKPwc24JwxGKl
https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/posts/pfbid02LFbL3mxQ5xSZvPgNfGfJxzttwrFrP1FgRuNuNDp5kC3eGJmQ83DWjKPwc24JwxGKl
This is the image of the Ukrainian suicide UAV used to target Russian territory, that was destroyed by a pre-emptive strike by Russia.
What is worth mentioned here is that these UAVs are small targets with very high hit-and-run mobility and low tactical value. Striking such targets require a very accurate and very rapid speed of reaction and response, i.e. the vital data about the accurate location of the targets for Russian strike team must be provided only seconds after the order for striking is promulgated, which is a very tough challenge.
In the past, Russian responding speed suffered from many challenges in dealing with such targets. For example, it was a very tough mission for Russia to timely retaliate against the hit-and-run HIMARS, as the scout team usually could not have proper equipments for retaliation immediately when they detected HIMARS and the secrecy for Russian orders to mobize retaliation forces was usually compromised by the Ukrainian sides, allow the Ukrainians to relocate their HIMARS before Russia could timely strike.
Which mean, at the moment, Russian retaliation speed is much quicker and much more efficient, many redundant steps may have been eliminated. Moreover, secrecy is also better guaranteed, probably may be associated with the apprehension of the former Director of the Encryption Department recently.
It is worth to note that the USA acknowledged that SAS and SBS special agents of UK has been in active in Ukraina. Other sources acknowlegded that USA agents are, too. The Western presence in Ukraina with their expertise in gathering intelligence and data of location of Russian units may be a valuable assets for Ukraina striking and artillery forces, which partly explain why Russian suffered a certain level of losses and challenges in 2022.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
GunshipDemocracy Wed May 15, 2024 12:03 am
Scholz urges more Ukrainian refugees in Germany to take up work
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/scholz-urges-more-ukrainian-refugees-in-germany-to-take-up-work/
More Ukrainian refugees in Germany should take up work, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said over the weekend, promising that this would secure their right to stay as fewer than two in 10 are currently employed.
Germany is the EU country that has taken in the most Ukrainian refugees, about a third of the total, or 1,300,000 people. However, according to the Polish Economic Institute, only about 18% were employed in January 2024, one of the lowest rates in the OECD.
So they are in EU already! why to work.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Belisarius Wed May 15, 2024 12:55 am
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So all the lazy, pro Nazi Ukrainian whores and bums went to the EU and the normal, hard-working people went to Russia? Good trade.GunshipDemocracy wrote:Germany is the EU country that has taken in the most Ukrainian refugees, about a third of the total, or 1,300,000 people. However, according to the Polish Economic Institute, only about 18% were employed in January 2024, one of the lowest rates in the OECD.
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ucmvulcan wrote:Joe the Bidet's envoy Tony the Blinker is in Ukraine promising new weapons will win the war.
They WILL win the war... for the Russians.
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VARGR198 wrote:
In Ukro TV some parliamentary was yapping about those being "baby teeth"
And how they lacked the proper-sized molds to pour concrete into.
Long story short, it is just as I have said months ago - call me surprised
They have contracted a number of structures, not it's size or concrete volume
Endstory was, that each piece could be removed by a single soldier, with some effort.
Just one more money laundering scam scheme.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Walther von Oldenburg Wed May 15, 2024 7:37 am
How true is the claim that what entered Kharkov is just a vanguard and main units are yet to be deployed?
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:How true is the claim that what entered Kharkov is just a vanguard and main units are yet to be deployed?
Could be true, more likely than not the new positions are bait. The goal is probably to draw Ukraine's new round of NATO standard meat into a firebag and rain down hell on them. The good news is another levy of conscripts and fanatics will be wiped out. The bad news, the Russians may retreat from the settlements after they are not useful for the end of making maidanburger out of the Ukes which would mean non stop propaganda.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Walther von Oldenburg Wed May 15, 2024 8:11 am
One way or another, we have an interesting summer ahead...
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ucmvulcan wrote:The bad news, the Russians may retreat from the settlements after they are not useful for the end of making maidanburger out of the Ukes which would mean non stop propaganda.
Peremoga! Dey groshi!
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Walther von Oldenburg Wed May 15, 2024 9:17 am
Nice. Over 20km2 captured. 
@rezervsvo reports:
The enemy claims that our troops are introducing new units in the Kharkov direction.
Here are the first results of the introduction of reserves: this mornng the enemy confirms our significant advance in Volchansk.
Advancement was reported in the area of Knyaginya Olga and Gatishchenskaya streets. The advance was 5.8 km wide and 3.5 km deep.
@rezervsvo reports:
The enemy claims that our troops are introducing new units in the Kharkov direction.
Here are the first results of the introduction of reserves: this mornng the enemy confirms our significant advance in Volchansk.
Advancement was reported in the area of Knyaginya Olga and Gatishchenskaya streets. The advance was 5.8 km wide and 3.5 km deep.
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Have you already heard the new ukro anthem?
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/110444
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/110444
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Nice. Over 20km2 captured wrote:
Currently, the total area will be 300 km2? The Russians captured more territory in a few days than Ukraine did with full NATO support in 4 months of its offensive.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Walther von Oldenburg Wed May 15, 2024 10:19 am
Units of the Russian Armed Forces took a large group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the operational encirclement in the east of the city of Chasov Yar
According to TASS, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred three brigades from Chasov Yar to the Kharkov direction.
According to TASS, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred three brigades from Chasov Yar to the Kharkov direction.
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There is not much to unhinge.over the Ukrainian line (thus threatening to unhinge it)
Scammers need to eat, too.Just one more money laundering scam scheme.
Western cope: Russia could only achieve gains after Ukros transferred troops.transferred three brigades from Chasov Yar to the Kharkov direction.
As if it were illegal for Russia to create new hotspots.
Or uncommon in military history.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Walther von Oldenburg Wed May 15, 2024 11:49 am
The blame game continues:
According to @new_militarycolumnist, Ukrainian People's Deputy Goncharenko called for the dismissal of Defense Minister Umerov and an "analysis" of the actions of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky because of the situation in the Kharkov region.
According to @new_militarycolumnist, Ukrainian People's Deputy Goncharenko called for the dismissal of Defense Minister Umerov and an "analysis" of the actions of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky because of the situation in the Kharkov region.
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Facing a very tough future.
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The enemy again tried to attack Russian territory at night with NATO weapons - Ministry of Defense
Duty air defense systems destroyed 10 ATAKMS operational-tactical missiles over the territory of the Crimean Peninsula.
2 Kharm missile launchers, 2 Hummer UABs, 2 Vilkha MLRS shells and 9 UAVs were destroyed over the territory of the Belgorod region.
5 UAVs were destroyed over the Kursk region and three UAVs were intercepted over the territory of the Bryansk region."
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Duty air defense systems destroyed 10 ATAKMS operational-tactical missiles over the territory of the Crimean Peninsula.2 Kharm missile launchers, 2 Hummer UABs, 2 Vilkha MLRS shells and 9 UAVs were destroyed over the territory of the Belgorod region.5 UAVs were destroyed over the Kursk region and three UAVs were intercepted over the territory of the Bryansk region."http://t.me/RVvoenkor
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Vikhr or Ataka with the laser sensor of the Krasnopol?
With the level of drone use for finding targets on the front line it would make sense to develop new missiles that can be launched from friendly positions to fire at enemy frontline positions with a drone marking the target with a laser.
Vikhr and Kornet and one version of Ataka are laser beam riding, which means a drone lasing the target would not help. Older ATGMs are either wire guided or command guided and would also not operate the way these missiles appear to be operating.
The widespread use of drones with good optics and laser target markers means new ATGMs with nose mounted laser spot seekers would make sense, but we really have not heard of any being shown officially.
They upgraded AT-3 missiles with improved speed and armour penetration... it would not be impossible to create missiles with HE frag warheads and nose mounted laser spot seekers so they could be used up this way.
Too slow. I think Alamo could be right with Fagot - but how about Svir/Refleks?
I'm sure it could be lazed externally??
AFAIK fagot is wire guided and Svir and Refleks are laser beam riding.
How about Sokol-1... it was supposed to have a small optical seeker that was compatible with laser spot markers, so it could attack contrasting moving targets but also have the target marked with a laser too.
Fired by T-80s it could be a candidate and about the only direct fire missile with SALH.
Clearly, victory in the special military operation must be coupled with total improvement of the army in general, and also the economic and logistic basis that sustain the army. If not, the accomplishment of the operation will be for naught.
I think as Hole points out the Russian military is in pretty damn good shape and many western countries probably wish they had the second best military in the Ukraine too.
Obviously they should always aim to do better, but that is more to do with future directions and plans and also ensuring new stuff is properly implimented and is made capable and effective for when it will be used.
Currently, the total area will be 300 km2? The Russians captured more territory in a few days than Ukraine did with full NATO support in 4 months of its offensive.
All the more impressive considering their goals have not been to capture territory as such during this conflict.
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The Czech president, who until recently had a very belligerent attitude, is changing his mind.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Karl Haushofer Wed May 15, 2024 2:46 pm
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1790717780548850118
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