Russian special military operation in Ukraine #58

Belisarius wrote:

And it has cost 120k KIA and 3 times wounded

I wonder where the signs are, in Russian society, of these half a million casualties

It's nothing but retarded cope and fantasy projection. Russian forces having a 10:1 artillery advantage will scale the Ukr losses accordingly. We
have enough information about the type of injuries. The deaths are not from infantry engagements with automatic rifles.

kvs wrote:
It's nothing but retarded cope and fantasy projection.   Russian forces having a 10:1 artillery advantage will scale the Ukr losses accordingly.   We
have enough information about the type of injuries.   The deaths are not from infantry engagements with automatic rifles.    

According to some sources, 96% of injuries are caused by artillery, combined fragments and shock/blast.
Add to that airforce.
Still I do believe that Russia suffered some 70k KIA at the moment.

Actually the number is less than 60k at
the moment as per the organization which is anti Russia government.

The Russian MoD reporting 2160 Ukrainian casualties during the past 24 hours.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12519717@egNews

xeno wrote:Actually the number is less than 60k at
the moment as per the organization which is anti Russia government.

That organization also claims that they are only able to confirm that number but believe the total to be 50% more...

I believe that perhaps no one knows for sure right now and if they do, are not telling

ALAMO wrote:

kvs wrote:
It's nothing but retarded cope and fantasy projection.   Russian forces having a 10:1 artillery advantage will scale the Ukr losses accordingly.   We
have enough information about the type of injuries.   The deaths are not from infantry engagements with automatic rifles.    

According to some sources, 96% of injuries are caused by artillery, combined fragments and shock/blast.
Add to that airforce.
Still I do believe that Russia suffered some 70k KIA at the moment.

"During a special military operation in Ukraine, according to the Russian Defense Ministry, up to 97% of the wounded return to service. At the same time, at different stages of SVR, the proportion of patients in severe and extremely severe conditions reached 24-27%, in the state of moderate severity-about half, light injuries are recorded in 20-22%. According to the nature of injuries, 70% are mine-explosive wounds, 10% each-diseases, injuries and gunshot wounds."

Russian Medical Development: News - Page 17 Post n°404

franco wrote:

xeno wrote:Actually the number is less than 60k at
the moment as per the organization which is anti Russia government.

That organization also claims that they are only able to confirm that number but believe the total to be 50% more...

I believe that perhaps no one knows for sure right now and if they do, are not telling

The 50% fluff factor is obvious BS. There are no secret burials. Russian KIA are not left to rot out on the battlefield. The MediaZona methodology
likely overestimates the losses because it counts all males in the "right" age range whose death is advertised on social media. There are plenty of
deaths not related to the war. How do they separate these two different death populations? Given their anti-Russian agenda I would bet that
they are over-attributing the war loss population.

Anyway, the Russian operation is deliberately conserving Russian lives. The "exception" is the Wagner operation in Bakhmut. But that was not any
sort of human wave meat grinder as claimed by NATzO and its Kiev minions. Today we have the use of FAB-3000 bombs which are very effective
against the Ukr fortified positions. A KIA ratio of 1:10 is way too high and locally must be on the order of 1:100. The increase of Ukr casualties
to over 2000 is not reflected in a proportional increase in Russian casualties.

Regarding the "children's hospital" strike, ask what are the chances? I think the Ukr NATzO proxies staged the event using their own air defense missile.
They get plausible deniability if their BS propaganda does not fly ("accidents happen") and at the same time can contribute to the NATzO propaganda
chorus about Russians deliberately attacking children.

I think Russia should send some missiles to engage more pain for such shenanigans.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are unable to stop the offensive of the Russian Armed Forces in two decisive directions, by Lyubov Stepushova for Military Pravda. 07.09.2024.

The Russian Armed Forces are moving to the left bank of the Oskol River and the Pokrovsk-Chasov Yar highway.

The Russian Armed Forces are conducting decisive battles in two directions, as a result of which Kupyansk and Chasov Yar will be taken. This success will be reflected in the overall operational situation in the SVO zone.

The Russian Armed Forces must return to Kupyansk

The first direction is the exit to the bank of the Oskol River south of Kupyansk. The village of Peschanoye was recently taken as a result of a breakthrough of more than four kilometers in a section up to three kilometers wide. From Peschanoye to the Oskol River, where the villages of Kruglyakovka (opposite Senkovka) and Kolesnikovka are located, there are about nine kilometers left, and there are no other settlements along the attackers' route. Some Russian sources report that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already retreating behind the Oskol River.

The Russian Armed Forces are attacking crossings, including embankments.

In this way, a bridgehead is formed for an offensive on Kupyansk from the south, possibly with a crossing of the river.

"It looks like a crisis is brewing in the Kupyansk direction, similar to the "Ocheretin breakthrough," Ukrainian analyst Konstantin Mashovets writes in Telegram .

https://military.pravda.ru/2059480-kupjansk-chasov-jar/

xeno wrote:Actually the number is less than 60k at
the moment as per the organization which is anti Russia government.

Doesn't include DNR/LNR troops which probably have over 25k KIA of their own by now

As a result of yesterday's strike on missile depots from France and the UK, over 45 Storm Shadow missiles, 23 Sculp missiles and 18 ATACMS missiles were destroyed.
    A big loss for ukros.

    This is at least €200 million plus the cost of secret logistics during delivery.

    Our scouts caught the beginning of the transportation of missiles to the launch sites in the Mykolaiv, Odessa regions and the Dnieper and destroyed them.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/119947



https://t.me/infomil_live/7870

    The most curious thing is that the morning strike used regular Kh-101s, not upgraded to the Izdeliye-504AP version, which has an L-504 passive jamming unit on board . Previously, they tried to attack Kiev with these missiles, since the Ukrainian capital was probably the most protected city in Europe in terms of the number of modern Western air defense systems of various models deployed.

    However, today, the Ukrainian air defense in the Kiev area, not counting the work of the Patriots from the outskirts of Zhulyany, showed itself surprisingly extremely poorly : only in the posted footage, the operator captured the arrival of 6 Kh-101 cruise missiles at once , which are a target that can be intercepted by anti-aircraft systems. In addition to cruise missiles, ballistic and hypersonic missiles also arrived in the morning, where they hit is still unknown.

    What happened to the Ukrainian air defense of Kiev is a question, but it is possible that some of the air defense systems recently left the capital either for more threatening areas of the front to protect against Russian drones that have filled the skies, or for more sensitive objects at the regional level, and the Russian General Staff noticed this.

Franco wrote:"During a special military operation in Ukraine, according to the Russian Defense Ministry, up to 97% of the wounded return to service. At the same time, at different stages of SVR, the proportion of patients in severe and extremely severe conditions reached 24-27%, in the state of moderate severity-about half, light injuries are recorded in 20-22%. According to the nature of injuries, 70% are mine-explosive wounds, 10% each-diseases, injuries and gunshot wounds."

The mines explain why they move so slow, thanks finally some explanations.

What happened to the Ukrainian air defense of Kiev is a question

No, it isn´t a question. Most have been destroyed, the rest is of such poor quality that it can be jammed easily.

JohninMK wrote:What happened to the Ukrainian air defense of Kiev is a question

With a simple answer, they're with Stepan Bandera right now.

Poland Plans to Establish a "No-Fly Zone" Over Lvov

Look forward to the squeals of "Article 5" from dumb Polacks when Russia sends a half dozen Khinzals to destroy Polish Patriot batteries on the Ukrainian border.

400 kph FPV drone

madness.

thegopnik wrote:

Franco wrote:"During a special military operation in Ukraine, according to the Russian Defense Ministry, up to 97% of the wounded return to service. At the same time, at different stages of SVR, the proportion of patients in severe and extremely severe conditions reached 24-27%, in the state of moderate severity-about half, light injuries are recorded in 20-22%. According to the nature of injuries, 70% are mine-explosive wounds, 10% each-diseases, injuries and gunshot wounds."

The mines explain why they move so slow, thanks finally some explanations.

Actually in the translation, mine translated from Russian signifies any explosive device.

The tragedy in Kiev could have been avoided if Ukraine had not placed air defense systems in residential areas, said Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya.

"One of the targets in Kiev was the Artem rocket plant. The plant is located approximately 2 kilometers from the affected children's hospital. There is every reason to believe that the missile from the Ukrainian air defense, which hit the hospital, was intended to intercept the Russian missile aimed at the plant," he said.

ukraine_watch

JohninMK wrote:The tragedy in Kiev could have been avoided if Ukraine had not placed air defense systems in residential areas, said Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya.

"One of the targets in Kiev was the Artem rocket plant. The plant is located approximately 2 kilometers from the affected children's hospital. There is every reason to believe that the missile from the Ukrainian air defense, which hit the hospital, was intended to intercept the Russian missile aimed at the plant," he said.

ukraine_watch

Some are saying an AD missile could not cause so much damage I say bullshit. The AIM120 has a 20KG frag charge which would have broken every window and mowed down anyone with a direct path to the missile or exposed to a window. The building structure itself was not so badly damaged except close to the missile.

mnztr wrote:
Some are saying an AD missile could not cause so much damage I say bullshit. The AIM120 has a 20KG frag charge which would have broken every window and mowed down anyone with a direct path to the missile or exposed to a window. The building structure itself was not so badly damaged except close to the missile.

It is quite strange to see statements that an anti-aircraft missile is not able to destroy buildings - after we observed on video that houses can fly into splinters from one mine thrown inside, the charge of which is several times less than that of an anti-aircraft missile.

thegopnik wrote:The mines explain why they move so slow, thanks finally some explanations.

By mine-explosive they mean any type of explosive. So mines, bombs, shells, kamikaze-drones, RPGs, missiles, cluster warheads, etc...

A mortar in Russian is literally called a 'mine-thrower' BTW

mnztr wrote:Some are saying an AD missile could not cause so much damage I say bullshit. The AIM120 has a 20KG frag charge which would have broken every window and mowed down anyone with a direct path to the missile or exposed to a window. The building structure itself was not so badly damaged except close to the missile.

I don't know about AD missiles, but I do know about missiles such as the Kh-101s implicated in the Russian strikes against Kiev, each carrying a 400kg HE warhead.

That Hospital would be gone. G-o-n-e. The whole thing. Would just be a wreck or rubble in its place. See the FAB-500 gliding bombs for reference.

Same for the Kalibr, also carries the same size warhead.

Broski wrote:

Poland Plans to Establish a "No-Fly Zone" Over Lvov

Look forward to the squeals of "Article 5" from dumb Polacks when Russia sends a half dozen Khinzals to destroy Polish Patriot batteries on the Ukrainian border.

..or when Russian fighters start knocking their Poolander "associates" out of the air. Good times.