Kosovo should be back into Serbia, and that is what will happen as soon as NATO will gtfo Europe.
Totally agree, they have a UNSC resolution stating it is Serbian territory... 1244 or something.
But I can't see it happening... the hate for serbia was not from the US, I think it came from other parts of Europe and the US just used it to get a nice big military base in that part of Europe.
There would need to be another war and who knows which countries in the region will join in, but I can't see many helping Serbia.
Concerning "stealing" their land it is not exactly that. Furthermore Abkhazian committed also a lot of athrocities during the war in the 90s.
There are no good guys in war... I would never attack someone, but if someone did attack me and I feared for my life I wont be playing games... there is nothing off limits as far as I am concerned.
Do you think the west committed no war crimes ever?
And they call themselves the good guys.
Russia did not annex yet the two regions probably for avoiding further issues.
Oh please.... put down the cool aide... when did Russia Annex anything?
Crimea had a referendum and so did the four other Ukrainian regions and they decided to join the Russian Federation.
Did HATO annex Finland and Sweden? At least in the above case the people had a vote... the people of Sweden and Finland were given no such courtesy.
Russia does not annex, those Ukrainian regions... after 8 years of being bombed and a year of full scale war decided they didn't want to be Ukrainian any more.
If it looks like Georgia is going to be allowed to return its citizens to these regions they might decide to have a referendum to join the Russian Federation before all of a sudden their vote does not count any more and those regions want to join Albania... sorry, Georgia.
The displaced people will likely bring friends and family for support and all of a sudden they can take control of these regions simply via the ballot box.
Vote in a pro US leadership and the rest is history... ask Armenia... and why didn't Russia save them?
They are not and were not inhabited by ethnic Russians (except maybe in homeopathic percentages).
They lived in the country called Russia, which then became the Soviet Union and has now reverted to being Russia again.
Americans who are not ethnically native americans should not be allowed to remain or call themselves american?
They are European or some other ethnicity...
I do not doubt that most probably there was some interference from US in order to destroy Russian-Georgian relationships for at least 2 generations, and possibly more.
You don't need to go back very far in any countries history to see things they wont be proud of.
It is not about the past, it is about now and about the future.
The issue is that most Georgians believe all stupid lies from EU and US and one side they speak about independence and sovereignty, and on the other side they are ready to throw them away begging to become a puppet of Brussels and Washington.
Some people will believe the most ridiculous things if it suits them... be good and you go to heaven for eternity... 80-100 years of misery and pain for eternal bliss... sounds like a great deal, and the real question is... is it worth it? If it helps you get through those years of pain and misery then it helps you get through. Does it matter when you reach the end you find it is all bollocks and you die like everyone else and there is no afterlife?
So, Russia could probably annex the 2 regions, but then the US and EU will have an excuse to send even more lives to their death against Russia.
First of all annexation does not come in to it. The US and EU put sanctions on Russia when the Crimea joined the Russian Federation... and to be honest that has been the best thing for Russia and Russians. The vampire has removed its claws and teeth from the victim because the vampire thinks it is the victim and the victim is the monster that is surviving on it.
Relations and ties might improve with Russia, but Georgia is going to have to work rather hard to improve ties with these two regions... it is not for Russia to take those two regions or give them away, it is for Georgia to make amends with these two regions, and making amends with Russia would be a good start.
Georgias behaviour to Russia has been very hostile and Georgia has invited the US into its country. Georgia is entitled to do that of course, but Russia is entitled to respond by cutting ties and turning its back on the Georgian market of goods who probably want to sell to the Russian market to make money.
And the situation will not resolve until either 1)EU/US are dissolved, 2)Russia is defeated and dissolved in many statelets (dream of many US and EU politicians) 3) Georgia has been completely destroyed.
Or option four, Georgia remains buddies with the west and the two regions remain separate and the west and Russia continue... which I think is the most likely.
Of course option five where Georgia wakes up and realises the west can't help them get these regions back and will only try to use them as a battering ram to damage Russia and so they grow some balls and decide to ditch relations with the west and improve relations with Russia... which at the very least will improve their economic position and future and save a lot of money on otherwise useless weapon purchases from the US and EU.
However even option 3 will not mean good outcomes for Russia.
Russia never wanted Georgia destroyed... if that was the goal Russian troops could have marched on Tiblisi in 2008 and did to the tie man what the US eventually did to Saddam.
The best at the moment is to wait until the Ukrainian issue is solved, wait for the EU to collapse and then find a compromise in the Caucasus (possibly at that time most agitators, foreign agents and NGOs will have also left Georgia).
Is that an option? The US and the west are not going to give up and are already infiltrating Armenia... The government in Georgia might find itself in the same position to Yanukovich and be in the process of making deals with Russia to improve relations and the situation in their own country and the west funds a coup and turns their future to shit, condemning enormous numbers of people to the grave and many more to suffering... and for what... because the Ukraine has lithium in the volumes the Europeans want to get independence from China and other sources. Does Georgia have lithium?
“They think that after eating 20 khinkali and two khachapuri in Georgia, they have figured us out and can speak on behalf of Georgia,” Papuashvili said, expressing hope that after the parliamentary elections on October 26 and the convincing victory of the Georgian Dream, Western actors will no longer allow themselves to behave in this way.
The innocence of these Georgians is amusing... these European politicians are bought and they people who own them make money from war. These Europeans couldn't give a shit about Georgians and would be happy to supply flak jackets and ammo for Georgias youngest and brightest to line up and fight Russia... but there is no chance to attack Russia proper... the Roki tunnel could be turned into a horrible trap if Georgian forces ever reached its entrance... and of course they wont.
They will be fighting South Ossetian and Abkhazian force, and of course a few Chechens with memories of what Georgians did for their conflicts... but now perhaps there might be a few volunteers from new Russian regions in the former Ukraine who might want some payback over Georgian snipers at maidan... not to mention georgian forces in ukraine will want to go home and fight there instead...
I do not agree. With the same reasoning Russia should never get back Kiev, Odessa, Belarus and norther Kazakhstan, because Eltsin and Gorbachev were icking fudiots.
What should or should not happen is different for different countries... the US of A for instance can do no wrong even when they flit from invasion to coup to undermining democracy in every country they operate in including their own.
Russia is going to get cities and territories that vote to join the Russian Federation... this is about protecting people and not a land grab.
Before those four regions in Ukraine voted to join the Russian Federation, the Russian peace plan in Istanbul outlined the process of those regions becoming autonomous regions under the rule of Kiev. I am sure that is what sparked the referendum in all four regions and why the result was the way it was, but after they made that decision and after the Russian Federation accepted their application to join, Putin is now obligated to defend that territory by Russian law so there wont be any pieces given up to make peace. It is RF territory and it will be secured, which involves currently removing enemy military forces from that territory and creating a safe zone 300km wide where enemy forces cannot set up vehicles to launch long range missiles at Russian territory.
To achieve that might be tricky because as that region is secured from Kievs forces they might have a referendum and decide to join the RF too, which would require a further 300km buffer zone to be extended beyond their legal borders... of course until they reach an international border and then any ATACMS launched from such places becomes an act of war where the solution can be brutal because Russia does not care about their civilians.