Russian special military operation in Ukraine #60

franco wrote:

IMHO this special military operation has been and will continue to be a war of attrition. Not just of Ukrainian manpower and equipment but also valuable NATO reserve stores of equipment and supplies plus the overall economic strain.  

Problem on that side is ammunition shortage, especially artillery shells. But, if thisnwar continues for too long they might eventually catch up with Ukr demand.
US alone could provide more equipment. They didn't send any M-198 howitzer from reserves, more Bradleys and, for example, USMC tanks that were retired from service (over 200). Also, Leo 1, while it is obsolete could be sent by Europeans. Russia is using T-62, some not upgraded and even T-54. Enough to prolong this war for some more years.
As i said before, goal of the West is to bleed Russia, Ukraininans are just expendable pawns in this game.

One more thing. This Kursk invasion is a good excuse to do another round of mobilization and officially proclaim a war. On the other hand, that would mean that whole concept of SMO proved to be a failure and Putin is known not to accept easily that he made a mistake.

caveat emptor wrote:Level of nepotism and protectionism in Russian MoD is so obvious, by now, that you don't need any "Western and Ukrainian media and propaganda" to come to that conclusion. Russian media is all you need.  It is enough to see how many medals both Bulgakov and Ivanov had, while "results of their work" is for all to see. To top it all, Bulgakov is a hero of Russian Federation.  They have more medals than Zhukov. It just isn't clear on what grounds. Ivanov's lawyers even brought everything to the court to show how much he "gave to the motherland".
In Serbian, we have a saying for that: Ja tebi vojvodo, ti meni serdare...

I don't even know who Bulgakov and Ivanov are

Wasn't one a writer and the other a former deputy PM?

You hang around Telegram too much and pay attention to every hearsay and gossip

Best leave the court intrigue to the Russian housewives and pay attention instead to what the Ukraine and NATO are achieving out of their incursion into Kursk, and what Russia is achieving out of it

flamming_python wrote:
I don't even know who Bulgakov and Ivanov are

Wasn't one a writer and the other a former deputy PM?

You hang around Telegram too much and pay attention to every hearsay and gossip

Best leave that to the Russian housewives and pay attention instead to what the Ukraine and NATO are achieving out of their incursion into Kursk, and what Russia is achieving out of it

I really hope that this is sarcasm. Or, you can continue to keep your head in the sand.
If you wish, introduce yourself to general of the Army Bulgakov:

https://t.me/milinfolive/127184?single

Both of them were deputies in MoD. I don't want to put here photos of their medals and other shit.

"Militarely yes but politicaly it's not the same.

If they go in and level every city and kill innocents in mass he will end up with all the population against them, then there is no point in doing this war.

They learned quite well from US mistakes in Iraq."

This has got to be one of the dumbest takes I have heard yet.

Anyone who support Russia in this war won't bat and eye, China won't care, Iran, Nk etc

The only ones who would make a fuss are the ones already supplying weapons to kill Russians troops.

But yes, Totally don't get the countries supplying arm's to kill to unhappy, oh gee wiz we wouldn't want that

Not like Russia is political dead in that area of the world anyways....

franco wrote:The daily Kursk totals have not released yet however the Russian MoD is reporting 2010 Ukrainian casualties in the past 24 hours for the rest of the SMO.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12525736@egNews

Statements of the Russian Ministry of Defence on the Kursk direction:

The AFU's losses in the Kursk direction for the day amounted to up to 300 servicemen, 31 units of armoured vehicles, including 3 tanks;

The total losses of the AFU during the fighting in the Kursk border area amounted to up to 3,160 servicemen, 44 tanks, 43 armoured personnel carriers;

The Northern Group of the Russian Armed Forces is searching for and destroying mobile groups of the AFU in the direction of Alekseevskoye and Kauchuk in the Kursk region;

The Russian Armed Forces destroyed an Iris-T SAM launcher and a TRML-4D radar station in the Sumy region.

Kadyrov "received " a Cybertruck from Musk, as he put it. They already  installed machinegun on it and vehicle will be sent to his troops in SMO.

https://t.me/rtbalkan/43507

If this is true, this will actually be funny to see what happens

If you follow telegram link, still that I took is from a video that is a minute long. He is driving a truck and says positive things about it. In any case, it is a good comedy.

They will put a diesel generator next to the machine gun to make the all thing working

flamming_python wrote: I don't even know who Bulgakov and Ivanov are

Wasn't one a writer and the other a former deputy PM?

I know only Sergey Nikolaevic Bulgakov, priest, theologian and philosopher, represented, together with Pavel Alexandrovich Florensky, in a famous painting that can be admired in the Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow.

And Mikhail Afanasyevich Bulgakov, the author of Master and Margherita.

Hole wrote:
Russian paratroopers in Korenevo, which was allegedly "captured" by Banderites.
But they can´t find them.

Lucky for the banderits, as they would kill them when found
Like in all other places.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

I know only Sergey Nikolaevic Bulgakov, priest, theologian and philosopher, represented, together with Pavel Alexandrovich Florensky, in a famous painting that can be admired in the Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow.

And Mikhail Afanasyevich Bulgakov, the author of Master and Margherita.

Same, although honestly my favorite Bulgakov novel is Heart of a Dog.  Florensky, I have read some of his works, and SN Bulgakov's works, like Florensky (at least the ones I have read) are very deep.

Now back to the war. . . .  To the people are shitting their bricks over Kursk and Belgorod, remember how Putin views this war.  Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaprozhiye, and kherson are seen by the Kremlin as being just as Russian as they are.  Ukraine occupies portions of some of each of them and has committed war crimes in all of them, and as importantly has lost lots of its best formations in each.  So Ukraine owns about as much land as parts of an American city, but remember, the aim in this war is not land, its bodybags.  Not a  fan of that because I think Ukrainians should be dying on Ukrainian soil, not Russian, the four newer provinces or Kursk and Belgorod and I would love to see Russian forces on the banks of the Dniepr and Ukrainians in body bags there, but Russia is dealing with a hostage situation (at least in Putin's eyes) and if you storm in you kill a lot of hostages.  Fighting terrorists is a bloody affair and terrorists like killing people, and in some ways this is very much like the school in the south of Russia or the theater in Moscow.  Lots of people, good people (soldier and civilian) got killed there to.  Let the western press gloat, let the Norwegian Ukranian who writes rubbish that, "now Ukraine can win" say his rubbish.  Just remember, that Ukraine is losing lots and lots of men and material they cannot afford to lose.

Arrow wrote:https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/08/17/7470779/

It's hard to believe that this could be true. Russian authorities still believe in agreements with Kiev.

Moscow was ready to make further concessions and Kiev launched an offensive against Kursk Oblast. Unbelievable
[ ]https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1824789674868519287?t=PaYrbVXua8p-MVEbuKwQ9Q&s=19[/ ]

If true than this Kursk incursion is a very positive and timely development

caveat emptor wrote:Kadyrov "received " a Cybertruck from Musk, as he put it. They already  installed machinegun on it and vehicle will be sent to his troops in SMO.

https://t.me/rtbalkan/43507

i too, like to drive to work in a 100kg bomb that is liable to set off from any love tap to the undercarriage...

JohninMK wrote:What munition is this? It explodes about 50 meters up and then the M-270 explodes underneath.

A standard blast fragmentation warhead.

Take a look here :



You can see the fragments falling in a circular area, heavy ones considering the amount of dust.

Arrow wrote:
In the case of people, you're right. In the case of equipment, the West has so much that there's no shortage.

Oh really?
So tell me how many Leopard 2 tanks have been produced in the last 30 months?

Before targetting the bridge the S-400 are engaged with HIMARS, decoys and EW. This gives the Ukrainians a window to target high value assets like the Kursk bridge.

Arrow wrote:Of course, Zero .

No, it is not true.
Still, it is just a shade of what Russkie are making.
The most absurd part of this whole situation is, that it is an overall matrix.
Decision making centers - the real ones - know perfectly well that Russkie goals does not include anything other than banderastan area.
This is why they don't invest in a serious increase of production output.
Nobody gives a shit in real.

ALAMO wrote:

Arrow wrote:Of course, Zero .

No, it is not true.
Still, it is just a shade of what Russkie are making.
The most absurd part of this whole situation is, that it is an overall matrix.
Decision making centers - the real ones - know perfectly well that Russkie goals does not include anything other than banderastan area.
This is why they don't invest in a serious increase of production output.
Nobody gives a shit in real.

If they keep provoking Russia they may live to regret that decision. The entirety of Europe is woefully undefended and Russia would have little problems hitting everything in Europe. Only 2 NATO members outside the US have their own nuclear weapons and one of those members has to beg the US for the launch codes to use "their" nukes.