Russian special military operation in Ukraine #60

kvs wrote:Le Monde is like all the other NATzO fake stream media, full of shit.   Russia does not have a "war economy" by any economic metric.  So the 5-6 years estimate
is a turd ball that has not relevance to reality.  

JohninMK wrote:Did all the border locating get all the way through the legal process?

Nonetheless, this economic model gives Russia the ability to prolong the conflict far longer than Ukraine can manage.

Backman wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Did all the border locating get all the way through the legal process?

Im guessing you're asking if the Ukr border had any legitimacy before. The answer to that would have to be yes. The Ukraine declared independence in 1991. The border for all intents and purposes was no different than any other border in Europe legal wise.

Picture: the territories that Russia gained in the Pokrovsk direction from 1 to 31 Aug 2024, roughly during the time Ukraine launched the Kursk offensive.

Meanwhile, in Kursk, Russia managed to identified the identity of 600 Ukrainian KIAs and 60 Ukrainian POWs. The Ukrainian losses in Kursk is estimated to be at least 3000 people, i.e. 3 normal bigrades or similar to the whole 82nd Airbone Brigade. Ukrainian losses in material is also equal to 3 brigades, not mentioning the losses during maneuver of the units.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Any attacks deep into Russia on places like power plants, I don't think will work out well for Ukraine.

Many pro-Russian channels like the Duran etc have even reported how Putin is keeping a tight hold on the military holding them back, there are many hardliners in russia who want him to stop this.

Such attacks will only make those hardliners gain more and more support and eventually Putin will not be able to keep his foot on the gas it might also even finally convince Putin that his soft approach just has only emboldened Ukraine

Karl Haushofer wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Any attacks deep into Russia on places like power plants, I don't think will work out well for Ukraine.

Many pro-Russian channels like the Duran etc have even reported how Putin is keeping a tight hold on the military holding them back, there are many hardliners in russia who want him to stop this.

Such attacks will only make those hardliners gain more and more support and eventually Putin will not be able to keep his foot on the gas it might also even finally convince Putin that his soft approach just has only emboldened Ukraine

It is difficult to understand what Putin thinks he and Russia will gain from this soft approach. I personally cannot think of any benefits. I don't buy the idea of BRICS telling Russia to show restraint. Why would they do that? My gut feeling is that this is because of Putin's personal maybe religious ideology. If that's the case then Russia is paying a helluva big price for its leaders personal beliefs. Putin was not this soft on Chechens 25 years ago. Something has changed since then.

Fled Liberals Repeat Traitors' Path, by Dmitry Gubin, political science, for VZGLYAD. 09.01.2024.

Foreign agents are happy about the occupation of the Kursk region and are ready to rule there. If, of course, Zelensky allows it. After all, the Nazis at one time allowed traitors to rule the "Lokot Republic". For those traitors, it ended with executions, the current ones are counting on impunity, but in vain.

Those who until recently proudly called themselves oppositionists have become not just traitors, but also epigones. Russian history has already seen this, and some will have to refresh their knowledge.

Russian "oppositionist" Ilya Ponomarev* (included in the list of extremists and terrorists in the Russian Federation) called on Kiev to allow him to head alternative authorities in the Kursk region, controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. "If Ukraine allowed us to implement our ideas about creating authorities, then we would automatically receive political subjectivity not only within Russia. No one would be able to ignore us anymore, because the white-blue-white flag would be flying on the state administration buildings in the Kursk region " Ponomarev said in an interview with the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita.

Journalist Sergei Parkhomenko* (foreign agent) believes that the attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Kursk region will “benefit” the Russians.

- Sergey, are you celebrating? Are you happy about the successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, tell me honestly? - foreign agent Farida Kurbangaleeva addressed Parkhomenko.

- Yes, yes. To be honest, yes. It seems to me that this is a good, important factor," he replied. According to Parkhomenko, the Ukrainian Armed Forces militants are currently engaged in "important educational work with the Russian population ."

The well-known former gallery owner Marat Gelman (foreign agent) also spoke about the possibility of creating alternative authorities in the Russian Federation if part of the Kursk region remains under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Any victories of Ukraine are for the benefit of Russia. I am happy about the successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ," said comedian Viktor Shenderovich* (foreign agent) on the air of the Polish channel Belsat, which is focused on Belarus.

So, they are happy about the occupation of Russian territory and are ready to rule there. If, of course, Zelensky allows it. After all, the Nazis at one time allowed a certain Voskoboinik and Kaminsky to lead the "Lokot Republic", organized under the control of the Nazi occupiers in 1941. The Lokot Autonomous Okrug was located on a territory of 10,300 km2 (several districts of the modern Bryansk, Oryol and Kursk regions). That is, close to the places where Ponomarev would now like to work. This autonomy, according to the plan of the organizers and curators in Berlin, was to serve as a testing ground for a possible Russian collaborationist government under the SS.

True, the Fuhrer had already formed an opinion about the future, or rather the lack of a future, of Russian statehood and it has not changed. On July 16, 1941, at one of the meetings, Hitler said: “The creation of a military power west of the Urals should never again be on the agenda, even if we have to fight for it for a hundred years. The empire will only be safe if there are no foreign troops west of the Urals. Germany will take upon itself the defense of this area from all possible dangers.”

In September 1941, after the retreat of the Red Army, Konstantin Voskoboinik began to create local government and local police units loyal to the Germans (Guderian's 2nd Tank Army). In January 1942, partisans destroyed him, and power passed to his deputy Bronislav Kaminsky. The units of armed traitors were reorganized into the "Russian Liberation People's Army" as part of the SS, and local propagandists began to call themselves the "People's Socialist Party of Russia."

"Everyone who could, from the average policeman to Kaminsky himself, robbed the population... Usually, when it became known that a particular villager was in a partisan detachment or helping them, his family was robbed, everything was taken: cattle, poultry, food, and even clothing. All the things robbed from the population were stored in a special warehouse at Kaminsky's, who gave them to his confidants," one of the witnesses told investigators.

After the expulsion of the occupiers from this territory, Kaminsky and his gang moved to the Lepel district of the Vitebsk region. Later, his people participated in the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising, and Kaminsky himself, who rose to the rank of SS Brigadeführer, was shot by the Germans for looting.

In total, Kaminsky's brigade killed more than 10,000 Soviet citizens in the RSFSR and BSSR in 1941-1943, burning 203 people alive. These traitors burned 24 villages and 7.3 thousand households, destroyed 767 public and cultural institutions. A certain "Tonka the Machine Gunner" became especially famous, having personally shot one and a half thousand people.

And if the same Ilya Ponomarev could have ideally fit into Kaminsky's entourage, and Sergei Parkhomenko into his ideological machine, then Gelman and Shenderovich would have only had contact with "Tonka the Machine Gunner" - simply because of their last names. After all, in terms of anti-Semitism, the Lokot crowd, like all neophytes of Nazism, tried to outdo the Germans themselves. In the city of Dmitriev in the Kursk region, a ghetto was created, the residents of which were used for demining, and those who were not blown up were shot.

The fate of Kaminsky and his comrades should have alerted foreign agents, but they are apparently hoping for impunity. Or at least a delay in retribution, since the same machine gunner Antonina Makarova was exposed and shot only in 1979.

But we have a long memory.

https://vz.ru/opinions/2024/8/31/1284513.html