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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:59 am

    The reality is that when western special forces train a group of Ukrainian soldiers for a year and a half and they are trained for escape and evasion and terrorism against a civilian population, which is what Kiev was hoping for this entire war... perhaps why they kept on going on about how little territory Russia is taking... they wanted them to over reach and have long supply lines they could ambush and attack with small well equipped and well trained units of men... probably led by retired western special forces wanting to have some fun and get revenge for WWII or some such historical crime Russia is guilty of.

    Now Biden is essentially gone and no one is going to support Kiev like he did so they know it is over and these troops are trained the HATO way to operate deep in the enemy rear causing havoc and mayhem and committing what they would call war crimes if anyone did it to them... it would be useless to send them to the front lines to be killed by drones and artillery and air power so they created some fantastic scheme... it was probably going to be the next Bond movie script except the bad guys will be Russians and the victims will be the Ukraine and the British will be trying to help against the evil Russians... or some such nonsense.

    They now claim 12K men with vehicles and they are pulling ammo and artillery and air defence away from everywhere else to try to give them as much support as they can but they have scattered into small teams to hole out anywhere they can to take photos for Tik tok and other such nonsense so of course it is going to take time to clean them up. Quite a few have surrendered and over time more and more with either be killed or will also surrender, but the plan to take the Kursk NPP or to divert forces from the front line to create a stalemate there, or the capture prisoners so they could trade all the prisoners the Russians have, well two failures out of three, and the fact that to be able to get x number of prisoners back they have lost 5,000 well trained and equipped troops, and probably handed over more prisoners than they have captured.

    Their western allies don't understand what they are doing and have realised the Russians are crushing them... it might not be fast but it is certain, while on the front line losing most of their artillery and feeding any experienced troops into Kursk is leading to their lines failing and being pushed back faster than they otherwise would.

    It is so fortunate for Russia that the Kiev leadership were not taken out at any point because the odds on any replacements being this stupid is fairly low.

    In this conflict Russia stands to win the hearts and minds of the great majority of the global south and of the BRICS in particular, and copying nazi tactics will undermine this vital process.

    Exactly, Russia wins if it wins with dignity and the rule of law and morality... if Russia descends to western and nazi levels then they might win the conflict but they will lose the war and the rest of the world will realise when push comes to shove and things get a little bit real they will act just like the west acts... which is what the west tries to claim about Russia and China.... if you think the world is bad with the west in charge you should think about China or Russia being in charge... well based on Putin and Xi, I would say the world would be much better off... except it is a false dichotomy anyway... BRICS is not about Russia or China ruling the world and taking Americas place on the throne.... BRICS is about countries are not people and no one should be above the law and everyone should get a fair say and be treated with respect.

    If Russia starts shock and awe bullshit with nukes just because they lose their patience then they lose.

    They have won... they just need to wait for the collapse and that is the problem really... so many have no patience and will not wait... Kursk has to be fixed in 2 weeks or it is a failure.... really... where did that rule come from?

    Probably the same place the Kiev will fall in three days bullshit from Milli Vanilli.

    I don't believe those numbers because it's nearly same numbers every day.

    Perhaps the numbers are similar because they have the same number of guns and rocket launchers and snipers and aircraft and they are achieving similar results each day?

    Remember along the entire line of 1,000 odd kms there are lots of recon assets hunting Ukrainian positions and the number of drone units and artillery units is not going up and down.

    Unless they take a day off somewhere, but the enemy seems to be trying counter attacks to recover lost ground... I guess the enemy are pumping up their newest recruits with alcohol or crack... why would they stop doing that now?

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:03 pm

    Must have been a lot of ammo in this

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:06 pm

    Does anyone know what the success rate of the patriot batteries against incoming missiles has been in this conflict if any?
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:12 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:14 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:Does anyone know what the success rate of the patriot batteries against incoming missiles has been in this conflict if any?
    That statistic probably has one of the highest levels of classification there is.

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    Post  franco Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:39 pm

    The Russian MoD reporting 2365 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including...

    Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation (as of August 28, 2024)

    The Armed Forces continue to repel the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation.

    Units of the North group of forces, with the support of army aviation and artillery fire, repelled eight attacks by enemy assault groups in the direction of the settlements of Borki, Korenevo, Kremyanoye, Malaya Loknya during the day.

    In addition, the active actions of the troops thwarted attempts of enemy attacks in the direction of the settlements of Spalnoye, Olgovka and Russian Konopelka. As a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 75 people killed and wounded, destroyed a tank and eight armored combat vehicles. Five servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    Reconnaissance and search operations are continuing to identify and destroy enemy sabotage groups in the forests that tried to penetrate deep into Russian territory.

    Air strikes, artillery fire and active actions of Russian troops defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 22nd, 61st and 115th mechanized, 82nd and 92nd airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Apanasovka, Borki, Viktorovka, Kruglenke, Krasnoktyabrsky, Lyubimovka, Malaya Loknya, Mirny, Novaya Sorochina, Obukhovka, Plekhovo, Sverdlikovo, Sudzha, Snagost and Yuzhny.

    Tactical air strikes were carried out on the areas of concentration in the Sumy region of personnel and military equipment of the reserves of the 41st and 54th mechanized, 80th airborne assault brigades and the 69th separate infantry battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 1st brigade of the National Guard, as well as the 101st, 103rd and 107-th air defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Atinskoye, Belopolye, Boyar-Lezhichi, Glukhov, Iskriskovshchina, Masenzovka, Mikhaylovskoye, Pervomayskoye, Pustogorod, Solyaniki, Shalygino, Pogroedy and Esman.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 380 servicemen and 30 armored vehicles, including a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle and 28 armored combat vehicles, as well as six artillery pieces, three mortars and nine vehicles.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost up to 7,000 troops, 74 tanks, 35 infantry fighting vehicles, 62 armored personnel carriers, 460 armored combat vehicles, 210 vehicles, 51 artillery pieces, 13 multiple launch rocket launchers, including four HIMARS MLRS and one MLRS, five anti-aircraft missile systems, 10 electronic warfare stations, two counter-battery radars, one air defense radar, five units of engineering equipment, including two engineering barrier vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12527063@egNews

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:43 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    That statistic probably has one of the highest levels of classification there is.

    I believe one could get some idea based on the number of missiles fired by Russia compared to the number of targets hit.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:37 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:Does anyone know what the success rate of the patriot batteries against incoming missiles has been in this conflict if any?

    Much less than the Ukro faggots were hoping for.... Razz

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    Post  nomadski Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:14 pm

    @ Big_Gazza

    I was not saying that a withdrawal should be done in an area with civilians in it as bait ! I meant an empty space without any important things in it ! Some empty flat area like grassland , away from important town or city . So far the lesson is : ( 1 ) Orcs occupy Russian areas . ( 2 ) Russians attack areas . ( 3 ) Orcs die . ( 4 ) Russia liberate area .  Now a new lesson could be : ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 )  , ( 5 )  Russia withdraw from area just liberated . ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 ) . Or ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 ) , ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 ) ........


    And why do I say this in seriousness ? Because the mind is a slow learner , most under stress , can not connect cause and effect . They attribute gains or losses on the battlefield to the terrain or their different formations or own equipment . In this situation the superiority of Russia is not related to these factors , but better organisation and Russia's superior tactics and organisation !

    By keeping the battlefield in a fixed position , then it becomes clear that terrain and equipment used ( similar equipment mostly used in similar terrain ) and similar or same formations are unrelated to Orc defeat ! It is the Russian overall superiority ! Repeated defeats in the same area , will soon teach the stressed mind the cause and effect ! They will learn the futility of their actions .

    Ancient Greeks , used to find a flat area and form a line of defence in war . They could have waged war , fighting from advantageous heights or formed a " Turtle, " but by providing a level playing field , they proved to the enemy , the strength of their will . This was in the old days the determining factor  , since equipment used was very much the same on all sides . The enemy then learned the futility of their actions .

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    We could leave some Alcoholic and Crack in the field to attract the Orcs to "attack ," .......

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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:18 pm

    We have so much moaning and bitching over the Kursk incursion but that is just playing into the objectives of the Kiev regime and its NATzO handlers.
    The real front is collapsing but everyone's attention has been directed to Kursk as if it is of more importance. It's a pure diversion ploy and clearly it
    works on vast numbers of people, including members of this forum.



    NATzO only has direct intervention left as a way to prop up its Khuyiv proxies.

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    Post  MMBR Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:29 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Anal Julian continues his daily dose of ass fisting.

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    Jihad Julian finally seeing some action lol!

    Things are not looking good for nazi on Pokrovsk direction. If reports of an advance into the center of Selidovo are confirmed in the near future, rapid capture of major cities will continue. Battles like those in Mariupol or Artyomovsk have not been occuring lately, and the capture of Novogrodovka in three days - in general - will be written in military textbooks.

    The "Ocheretino flower", which was criticized for its slow pace, did its job. With its help, the Russian troops managed to "eat" most of the Ukrainian grouping in a square of 15x25 kilometers.

    And then Syrsky also helped the Russian troops advance by removing some of the rear units and mechanized brigades of the AFU by placing them into the Kursk pocket.

    Military chronical is the source for this line of discussion

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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:34 pm

    kvs wrote:
    The real front is collapsing but everyone's attention has been directed to Kursk as if it is of more importance.   It's a pure diversion ploy and clearly it
    works on vast numbers of people, including members of this forum.

    ...and that is a good thing. Keep those rats trapped in Kursk, whilst the back door is getting torn down! Laughing

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    Post  Arrow Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:46 pm


    There are rumors about the first F-16 shot down? It is not yet known in what situation. They write that a colonel, probably an F-16 pilot, was killed.

    https://t.me/ZOV_Voevoda/19397

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:13 pm

    Arestovich stirring it again Laughing

    Ukrainian TG channel Rezident (close to Zalushny and Poroshenko) writes:

    The "Kursk holiday" of the Ukrainian authorities is ending due to the situation in the Pokrovsk direction, according to former Bankova adviser Alexey Arestovich.

    "The enemy has cut the Pokrovsk-Karlivka highway. His intentions are obvious: the Pokrovsk salient is being driven in to cut off Kurakhovsky and Toretsky with flank attacks. In this way (if he succeeds), the enemy will seize the central regions of the Donetsk region, which are also the southern ones that are still under our control," he wrote.

    According to the former adviser, the pace of the Russian Federation's advance in the Pokrovsk direction "cannot be called anything other than an operational crisis for us."

    The Russian Federation's lack of troops may stop this, but it is also unclear whether the Ukrainian Armed Forces have enough forces to disrupt these plans, Arestovich says.

    “Rumors are spreading among the troops (and this is the worst thing) that the Donetsk region is simply being surrendered by agreement with the Kremlin - and this is a sign of very serious demoralization,” wrote the former adviser to the President’s Office.
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    Post  franco Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:18 pm

    The five most massive missile attacks on Ukraine during the SMO, according to Ukrainian data:

    ▫ 26 August 2024: 127 missiles and 109 Geraniums;

    ▫ 22 March 2024: 88 missiles and 109 Geraniums;

    ▫ 29 December 2023: 108 missiles;

    ▫ 9 March 2023: 81 missiles;

    ▫ 15 November 2022: 96 missiles.

    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1828821274476384751

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:40 pm

    Rumours of Apple deleting it so if you have Telegram on an Iphone, here is how to avoid it being automatically deleted https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/12496

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:55 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    The-thing-next-door wrote:Does anyone know what the success rate of the patriot batteries against incoming missiles has been in this conflict if any?

    Much less than the Ukro faggots were hoping for....  Razz
    From MoA but not referencing modern Russian missiles

    During gulf war 1 the US was claiming a high percentage of scuds being killed by the patriot system. The reality is they did not get a single intercept let alone kill on a scudu. During the Yemen Saudi conflict we finally get realistic intercept and kill numbers as the Saudi's were pissed. The PAC-2 could only hit a scud homolog under 20% of the time and failed to kill any(warhead was not disabled and still hit the target despite intercept. The PAX-3 missile got those numbers up to 40% intercept rate and 5% kill rate. That is with AWACS support, full NATO crews, local AWACS supported by a 6 ship cap.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:28 pm

    F-16 pilot killed in Ukraine

    Lieutenant Colonel Oleksiy Mes was one of the first Ukrainians allowed to fly American fighters. He spent six months in Denmark learning to fly F-16s.

    A local deputy writes that Mes was killed on August 26 - during a missile attack on military and industrial facilities in Ukraine.

    One of the strikes was carried out on the F-16 base airport in Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast. The day before, the Ukrainian Armed Forces posted a photo of the planes, which revealed their storage location.
    - Anna News

    Photo taken with Air California National Guard F-15s.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:24 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Well, they either start moving some troops (what would be 10K from eastern Ukraine if russia supposedly has 500K there) to Kursk or risk losing more territory in it, risking the NPP there.  Because it seems Russia cannot hold its positions there even though they got the superior force.

    I hate the ukies but this kursk situation is a **** up for Russia.

    We don't even know what the Ukies want. By looks of it, they just want to create as much chaos as they can and kill more innocent Russian civilians.  While Russians are constantly bombing them and hunting them, the Ukies are gaining ground. Which indicates Russia doesn't have much for defense lines.

    The numbers Russia proclaims to have killed and what not, doesn't add up. If they killed that many per day, Ukraine would have no men left now. But Ukraine seems to drum up a lot of forces and making pushes on Russian territory.

    So yes, I do believe Russian authorities are not honest here.



    This looks like precisely the opposite behavior on the part of Russia to the defense of South Ossetia back in 2008.


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports

    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia



    I think the "Kursk trap" is already big enough, and Russians do not need to give up any more ground.

    Also, how about waging partisan warfare in the rear areas occupied by the Ukrainians?



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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:29 pm

    The real front is collapsing but everyone's attention has been directed to Kursk as if it is of more importance.
    This is like showing a substitute on the bench tying his shoes instead of the football match.

    NATzO only has direct intervention left 
    Not enough left for that.

    The Russian Federation's lack of troops may stop this
    According to some sources there were 200.000+ troops on summer vacation, they will be back soon.

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    Post  Broski Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:07 am

    kvs wrote:NATzO only has direct intervention left as a way to prop up its Khuyiv proxies.
    Good. British, French, German, American, Polish and other NATO cannon fodder that want to fight Russia that badly should die for it instead of unwilling Ukrainian conscripts.

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    Post  Kiko Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:19 am

    Russia will destroy all dogs of war, by Victoria Nikiforova for RiaNovosti. 08.28.2024.

    Last year, men in military uniform knocked on the door of John and Heather Peters' home in Marshfield, Wisconsin, and handed them an urn containing the ashes of their son: 28-year-old retired military man Andrew Peters, who died in Ukraine, where he served as a mercenary in the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    Less fortunate was the mother of 26-year-old paratrooper Cooper Andrews, whose body was lost near Artemovsk (former Bakhmut) during the assault by the Russian army. She had nothing to bury.

    Relatives of another paratrooper, Grady Kurpasha, pulled out all the stops to retrieve the remains of their relative who died west of Kherson . In the end, they were sent a handful of earth from the place where he was killed. The Ukrainians promised to donate the boots, backpack, and mercenary's dog tag they found to the military glory museum.

    All of these people served in the American army and went to Ukraine shortly after their discharge. They all made exactly one mistake: based on their experience in the occupied territories of Iraq and Afghanistan, they decided that they were going on a safari where they could earn a little money and have a good time. But it turned out to be a safari on them.

    For a long time, the West avoided talking about the losses of its military. It was believed that they were like mercenaries, fighting on their own, in a gray zone. At the same time, there were rather clumsy attempts to cover up the deaths of their officers, either in plane crashes or somewhere in the mountains.

    But you can't take the words out of a song: foreign invaders meet their end on Russian soil. "At least 400 Americans have died in Ukraine during this time, including mercenaries and soldiers," Douglas MacGregor, a former assistant secretary of defence, revealed the losses in January. "The administration won't tell you that."

    According to Russia , out of 13 thousand foreign mercenaries who came to the Ukrainian safari, our army destroyed about six thousand. This is a huge percentage by NATO standards, a hopeless defeat for the hyped military alliance. After all, they are used to fighting where their losses will be from one to two percent.

    But all this was before the attack on the Kursk region . There, the mercenaries simply went in droves. Residents of the captured territories say that they heard Polish, English, German speech. It is as if we are living through the worst nightmare since the Great Patriotic War: an insolent foreign rabble tortures, kills and takes our citizens prisoner.

    It is impossible to hide the obvious: this is a full-scale Western intervention on our lands. Well, the invaders, as always, will get what they deserve. Yesterday morning, our army dismantled a Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group that tried to get to the Kinburn Spit. Among the dead were many foreign mercenaries.

    "There were foreigners, including Polish servicemen," said the ATGM crew commander with the call sign Nastroenie. "They were found to have chevrons on them, they were found to have documents on them, and special signs in the form of tokens."

    A little later, the underground in Ukraine reported that after our missile landed on Krivoy Rog, medics evacuated wounded foreign instructors in the following quantity: "Military medics evacuated about 15 wounded. According to our agents, English-speaking."

    The mercenaries who have invaded Ukraine think that they will be treated with the same ceremony as the VSSU. In reality, it is the other way around. We are raging a classic civil war with the Ukrainians, and after our victory, many of them will join our army - just like the defeated Whites joined the Red Army. The attitude towards foreigners on our land is radically different: they should not be here, ideally, they should not be here at all.

    Mercenaries are the most despised contingent in all wars. They are the dogs of war, the Geneva Convention does not consider them combatants, and even in their own country they are often considered criminals. Even the Western press was forced to write about the abominations that American mercenaries committed on our soil - they shot our prisoners, finished off the wounded.

    In the old days, foreign specialists were considered valuable trophies, they could be exchanged for our prisoners. Now there is a demand in society for their elimination. Rewards can be announced for the heads of especially interesting figures, why not?

    The "Boys in Kursk" are tired of waiting for their fate - American Chevekashniks who took selfies on a playground in the Kursk region. One, however, has already escaped, now gives frightened interviews, hides his face. He is right to be afraid, in fact, they all should be afraid.

    We need to make sure that all these "white gentlemen" understand that the Ukrainian safari will end for them either in death or in a military field court somewhere in Belarus , the DPR or the LPR , where the death penalty still exists. And it is very desirable that they have no hope of an exchange. Otherwise, they come here, full of harmful illusions, and then their relatives cry overseas, trying to return at least their remains.

    "He loved animals," complains the mother of 28-year-old Jericho Magallon, a retired American army officer killed near Artemovsk, to Newsweek . "He loved them in his California, why did he forget to live on our land? A logical end for any invader.

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    So long as they adhere to the laws of war, I have no hate for soldiers of any country. Mercs though? The only good one is a dead one. A soldier, pilot, sailor, marine? He is doing his job, I may dislike the conflict he finds himself in, but I take issue with his government and not him. Mercs? Take a nice long dirt nap, the world is better off without you

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    Todays update on progress of the Avdeevka-Pokrovsk Fun Run. Participants are enjoying the fine weather, and the crowds are out to enjoy the festivities. Oranisers are reportedly busy planning follow-on activities due to the unprecedented popularity of the event. Razz

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    Russians take central Kostyantynivka. Delousing operations are reaching their most welcome climax. russia

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