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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

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    Post  flamming_python Today at 11:05 am

    ALAMO wrote:You are in a doom phase for a while, so nothing less than Poseidon detonating inside LA harbor bay would satisfy you, which is why arguing with you is pointless.
    Grow some hair on your balls, and get back as an adult.

    Yesterday all the westerners in Kiev were shitting their pants closing offices like there will be no tomorrow.
    Today it get cleared, that  they have lost the Game of chickens.
    And Russkie demonstrated a mature weapon system that can strike all of Europe, not only continental, from a safe distance, which was argued as a bluff only a year ago.

    Edit : those Ch-101 hits observed were all targeting the Yuzhmash missile factory.

    And by the way, some suggest that those strikes might have been "big caliber MLRS" which indicates Korean stuff rather than RS-26.

    And guess what ? 600 mm KN25 has the range, but what's more interesting - it carries 6 ready to go missiles ...

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    I would call that an interesting coincidence ...

    I am an adult
    And I would very much prefer to avoid WW3

    You just don't seem to understand what's going on, instead choosing to live in a fantasy while gatekeeping what Russia should do in response to its servicemen (and soon civilians no doubt) being killed.
    Go turn the other cheek on your own dime, not ours.

    And most crucially of all - unless the Russian leadership gets serious about showing NATO its place, and soon, what we will be looking at is a mass conventional war between Russia and NATO, it won't be avoided. And it will go nuclear eventually anyway. Stalin closing himself off in his bedroom for 3 days didn't make Operation Barbarossa go away, neither will whatever loops our leaders jump through as NATO makes it ever more clear to them that it could care less about their parlor tricks and demonstrations.

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    Post  Arrow Today at 11:07 am

    To scare the shit out of the westerners with Rubezh, and finally throwing 20+ NK pipes at some target 600 km away - I would call that a double tap Laughing Laughing Laughing wrote:

    The West knows what it was. If the Korean shit MLRS, they laugh, if the conventional RS 26, they may have concerns. Hit the entire EU conventionally at a speed of 6 km/s. MLRS does not impress anyone.
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    Post  flamming_python Today at 11:16 am

    GarryB wrote:
    So you are saying you know exactly what these weapons hit and that they are not HATO or US facilities?

    Interesting... not sure how you could possibly know this...

    First of all, they hit Yuzhmash
    Second of all, there are no NATO facilities in the Ukraine. They have declared none. But NATO certainly is hitting Russian facilities on Russian territory

    But that's okay because as ALAMO says, NATO just conducted a demonstration strike, and there was nobody actually in that building the Storm Shadows impacted. Interested how he could possibly know that..
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    Post  ALAMO Today at 11:17 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    I am an adult
    And I would very much prefer to avoid WW3

    Sometimes I have a 180-degree opinion on the matter.
    You are fading from one extreme to the other.
    Like a 9y/o.
    I wan it all, and I want it now!

    When Russia stepped into this conflict at full scale, nobody considered that 3 years after it would end up with bankruptcy of all of Europe.
    The fact that they will occupy 20% of Ukraine - and make it an "objective situation on the ground that must be considered" - everyone would call some mythomaniac dream.
    If someone had told you back then, that Russia under 25+ k sanctions would be the world's 4th economy - you would have the full privilege to call him crazy.

    As I said - you have an issue with seeing the trees, because forest is hiding them.

    flamming_python wrote:Interested how he could possibly know that..

    I have used Google Street View to check what is there.
    A few abandoned buildings at the outskirts of the small sanatorial village.
    Go check yourself, it is "Podyezd k sanatorium Marino" street.
    Here you go :

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/2RZhJy6EFPmk42A56

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/G2ugQzjpWfJQ8jeX6

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/MFkVjJxqBBY8QCy49

    I can clearly see a half of NK army fitting there.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Today at 11:53 am

    Russia won't want a freeze in the conflict that only results in Ukraine building it's forces, tit for that attacks, and NATO troops embedded even if in Ukrainian uniforms, neo Nazis still on the front line and the whole still involves a lot of Russian troops stationed for decades costing money. It's not what Russia wants or needs. Minsk agreement has proven it doesn't work. If Russia accepts such then they are creating a rod for its own back.

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    Post  Mir Today at 12:06 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Well, it looks like they really get some special treatment there ... Shocked

    And they have been heavily toasted conventionally, too ...

    Jokes aside, it seams that a missile carries 6 independent blocks, with some sort of subammunition for each.
    We are talking about kinetic missiles known from sci-fi books till now ... Shocked

    Baby Avangarde's on a S-26 or maybe even kinetic rods from outer space?

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Today at 12:09 pm


    The exact range of the weapons used in the missile attack that everyone is talking about is not known.
    An Iskander could have been used, with multiple warheads and an improved range.


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    Post  Arrow Today at 12:25 pm

    https://t.me/ChDambiev/32898 Shocked

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    Post  ALAMO Today at 12:32 pm

    One more - different perspective.

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/130733

    Pay attention that there are no visible explosions on the ground.
    Which suggests kinetic energy used ...

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    Post  higurashihougi Today at 12:33 pm

    https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/11/21/foreign-ministry-spokeswoman-called-during-briefing-told-not-to-comment-on-reports-of-ballistic-missile-strike-on-ukraine

    Foreign Ministry spokeswoman called during briefing, told not to comment on reports of ballistic missile strike on Ukraine

    Speaking at a briefing on Thursday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova took a phone call during which she was heard being asked not to comment on reports of a ballistic missile strike on Ukraine.

    The exchange was caught on a hot mic. It’s unclear who she was speaking with or whether the call was prearranged.



    Марии Захаровой позвонили прямо во время брифинга МИД и попросили не комментировать удары баллистическими ракетами, обратило внимание «Агентство».

    Неизвестный мужской голос сказал спикеру МИД «Наши удары баллистическими ракетами, о чем стали говорить, не комментируем». (An unknown male voice told the Foreign Ministry spokesman, “We are not commenting on our ballistic missile strikes, which is what they started talking about.”)

    Было ли это случайностью или заранее продуманной постановкой, неизвестно.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Today at 12:41 pm

    The latest news on the RS-26 missile said that its development had been discontinued in favor of the Avangard system.


    https://tass.com/defense/995628
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    Post  ucmvulcan Today at 12:51 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    First of all, they hit Yuzhmash
    Second of all, there are no NATO facilities in the Ukraine. They have declared none. But NATO certainly is hitting Russian facilities on Russian territory

    But that's okay because as ALAMO says, NATO just conducted a demonstration strike, and there was nobody actually in that building the Storm Shadows impacted. Interested how he could possibly know that..

    Don't the alt nazis (Rheinmetall) have a few factories in Ukraine? That's a NATO facility.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Today at 1:01 pm

    Another video about the Russian attack:

    https://x.com/AngelVazquez40/status/1859535868542738462

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    Post  Airbornewolf Today at 1:32 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Another video about the Russian attack:

    https://x.com/AngelVazquez40/status/1859535868542738462

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    sorry man, it is from last year Wink

    https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-cruise-missiles-strike-Ukrainian-Yuzhmash-millitary-production-complex-in-Dnepropetrovsk:6

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    Post  bandit6 Today at 1:34 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Another video about the Russian attack:

    https://x.com/AngelVazquez40/status/1859535868542738462

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    I thought they said they intercepted all but one of the missiles???
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    Post  Arrow Today at 1:37 pm

    So probably RS-26 or some derivative.

    https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/146058

    From Kapustin Yar to Dnetropietrovsk is about 850 km. That's enough even for Iskander. Only Iskander doesn't carry 6 charges. Maybe it was already a new MRBM, or something based on RS-26 launched on a high trajectory. Just like North Korea tests its ICBMs. Modern ICBM has a minimum range of about 1500-2000 km, if not less. So IRBM can have even less, you can always load more warheads if there is space.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Today at 2:05 pm

    Definitely not KN25 or Iskander 1000 as launch came from Astrakhan

    Rubezh most likely , I’d have hit Poland but that’s probably next

    As I said operation true promise set the template

    An impactful and visible strike is needed, but hitting Europe is the next step, not with nuclear warhead but conventional is fine

    As I said Israel took the strikes on the chin and did **** all and NATO will too

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    Post  ALAMO Today at 2:13 pm

    The main question is the rate of stockpiling missiles so massive as RS26 is.
    It is practically a continent theatre ICBM that won't be much less expensive than Yars.
    Still a serious overkill I would say.
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    Post  Arrow Today at 2:18 pm

    The main question is the rate of stockpiling missiles so massive as RS26 is. It is practically a continent theatre ICBM that won't be much less expensive than Yars. Still a serious overkill I would say. wrote:

    RS-26 is basically Yars probably with two stages. An expensive option for sure. Maybe it was already a completely new MRBM. Something between RS-26 and Iskander with a range of 2000 to 3000k km. In addition, RS-26 production would be slow. Now they have to allocate some production capacity to Yars, Yars-M and Bulava. On the other hand, photos have appeared of the expansion of several plants producing solid fuel engines. Very Happy
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    Post  Arrow Today at 2:21 pm

    The question is whether it was 6 MRBMs or one with 6 charges. If one, it must be a larger and more expensive MRBM.
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    Post  Mir Today at 3:13 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Don't the alt nazis (Rheinmetall) have a few factories in Ukraine? That's a NATO facility.

    They also have troops stationed there Suspect
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    Post  Mir Today at 3:14 pm

    ALAMO wrote:The main question is the rate of stockpiling missiles so massive as RS26 is.
    It is practically a continent theatre ICBM that won't be much less expensive than Yars.
    Still a serious overkill I would say.

    Small price to pay as a warning sign.
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    Post  owais.usmani Today at 3:15 pm

    RS-26 or Iskandar or whatever that thing was, it was super accurate. thumbsup

    Now only if that thing would have been carrying a nuke! Oh well, maybe next time. attack
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    Post  ucmvulcan Today at 3:23 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:RS-26 or Iskandar or whatever that thing was, it was super accurate. thumbsup

    Now only if that thing would have been carrying a nuke! Oh well, maybe next time. attack

    Nah, if you use a missile to kill non existent North Korean forces then you only pretend to use nukes to kill real NATO forces.
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    Post  nomadski Today at 3:26 pm


    Agree with FP on location of strikes , not being on NATO . More precisely the hit was not on USA or UK soil . The two parties launching missiles into Russia . Poland launched no missiles . Germany did not either . Nor did Ukraine , technically speaking . It would have been more meaningful , if Russia lobbed some kinetic into MIC Golf course or chicken Ranch retreat in USA ! Or rural military museum after closing hours in UK .


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