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Earlier in the day, President Vladimir Putin said that Russia fired a non-nuclear hypersonic version of a ballistic missile, striking a Ukrainian arms manufacturer in the city of Dnepropetrovsk in response to Kiev's use of US and UK longer-range weapons to strike Russian territory.
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There are undeclared NATO facilities and they were hit in the past with casualties.Second of all, there are no NATO facilities in the Ukraine.
Considering the size and weight of Iskander both at the same time is impossible to achieve.An Iskander could have been used, with multiple warheads and an improved range.
She is no Miller or that stupid Admiral. Zakharova is way to clever to make such a mistake, it was a deliberate mocking.It’s unclear who she was speaking with or whether the call was prearranged.
Peter F. Hamilton, Salvation Sequence/Nights DawnThe last time I have read about kinetic bombardment, was Star risk by Chris Bunch ...
Propably some version of Avangard.They were 6 independently targeting RVs each hitting the same point target in a demonstration of insane precision.
That´s the main point. As long as that doesn´t change we won´t see a nuclear strike by Russia.Our forces are advancing successfully along the entire line of contact.
Bankova, with warning to the public.Looks like Putin's new Oreshnik MRBM will be tested some more!
That´s what President Putin said, morons.Russia did not fire an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM)
They always forget the Martian troops. Racists!hey have also been bolstered by thousands of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's troops
Compare this missile to the non-existent "Dark Eagle" or the modified SM-6.The head of state also called the use of "Oreshnik" a response to the American plans to produce and deploy medium- and shorter-range missiles.
The west hast THE MEDIA.Lmao so funny Russia has rods of God and the west has… dial a yield lmfao
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Surely there was a target closer to Kiev to demonstrate this weapon. Something anyone in Kiev, including the MOD , govt and embassies would have heard with their own ears.
Why do the poor saps on the outskirts always have to feel the brunt of it for the decisions being made in Kiev ? While life goes on like in any other European city, in Kiev.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Cute fantasy, once Russia and NATO start trading conventional blows, the nukes coming eventually.
Deny this reality all you want
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Oh NATO will do shit, we are lobbing missiles are you right now, despite your threats.
Attack proper and the attack will only get worse.
High of you think otherwise
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:We aren't Israel, as the saying goes **** around and find out.
Btw how did all those other times go when Putin made these threats? Ah he did shit.
Acting like this missile changes thing's is delusional, the Russians already have longer range stuff.
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thegopnik wrote:A BM with 6 warheads, i don't get the hype is it just an average BM or they mean that the warheads have separate engines that accelerate to mach 10 downwards to the atmosphere which of course can be considered a brand-new idea because any warhead coming down on earth usually slows down.
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Striking a facility used to make weapons is fine, the big question is why wasn't this done the second they found out about it.
Less enemy production = easier time and less KIA for you
ALAMO wrote:What you are calling is inhuman.
While the Russian civilization is humane.
They have traversed East Germany from a conquered, raped and humiliated stated into best trusted ally in a decade.
They have made Chechens the most Russia loving and devoted society in a decade after a civil war that decimated its population.
They won't do more harm than needed to the regular Ukrainians, even at the expense of their own blood.
Shocking from the "western values" perspective ... but that is a way they are.
They can be irresponsible cruel, and shocking mercifully - same time.
Luckily, at Putin's shift, they follow the second.
Id Dima would have been in the same shoes .. well ..
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yeah and they are still doing it lol, also Iran warned Israel and Israel did some mock attack, neither of their attacks was meant to harm each other
SeigSoloyvov wrote:thegopnik wrote:A BM with 6 warheads, i don't get the hype is it just an average BM or they mean that the warheads have separate engines that accelerate to mach 10 downwards to the atmosphere which of course can be considered a brand-new idea because any warhead coming down on earth usually slows down.
There was no warhead, it was armed with MIRVs, of there was a warhead you would have seen big explosions
Of there was some massive kinetic blast you would have seen waves etc,
There was no HE.
It was Putin basically fiirng a nice like nothing shot to look tough
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Again Iran figured nothing out, they warned Israel because Iran didn't want eaclate but it had to look like it was reacting.
Israel followed suit because they are busy with Hamas nor can they Israeli afford a war with Iran.
Your basis is on crack, of Iran didn't warn Israeli then sure maybe you have a point but you don't at all.
Israel is doing the exact same stuff it does before, literally nothing changed.
And we have told Iran for over 20 years if you attack Iran and start a war we aren't doing shit, just like we told Turkey if they attack Russia we aren't helping them.
We will only acted if we are attackes and Russia attacking us would trigger that period
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62 GunshipDemocracy Yesterday at 11:14 pm
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MOSCOW, November 21 — RIA Novosti. Russian troops have successfully tested the latest ballistic missile, Oreshnik, in the SVO zone, Vladimir Putin reported.
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"One of the newest Russian medium-range missile systems was tested in combat conditions. In this case, with a ballistic missile in a non-nuclear hypersonic warhead, our missilemen called it "Oreshnik," he noted.
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Putin also noted that modern air defense systems cannot intercept Oreshnik missiles, since they attack targets at a speed of 10 Machs, or 2.5-3 kilometers per second. According to him, there are currently no means of counteracting such weapons.
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"The targets to be hit during further tests of our newest missile systems will be determined by us based on the threats to the security of the Russian Federation," he said.
Putin added that Russia would offer in advance to civilians in Ukraine and citizens of other friendly states to leave the zones of possible destruction when struck by systems such as Oreshnik. He stressed that for humanitarian reasons this would happen openly, publicly and without fear of opposition from Kiev.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62 GunshipDemocracy Yesterday at 11:24 pm
According to the president, this is a medium-range ballistic missile with hypersonic warheads. The speed is two to three kilometers per second. It is guaranteed to overcome any air defense and missile defense system.
"Oreshnik", judging by the video of the night strike published on the Internet, is equipped with a multiple independently targetable warhead.
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