Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Putin didn't want this happening he shouldn't have the war carried out like it has been.

Putin cannot help himself. He is risk-averse. He overthinks. He plays eternal 5D chess. He thinks that waiting and not retaliating will eventually bore Russian enemies and they will lose interest destroying Russia.

lyle6 wrote:Get ready for the humiliation of the century when the Houthis sink an aircraft carrier.

Not sink, maybe damaged one?

The Houtis, who have no suitable satellite data, nor Iran, were somehow able to accurately, in their words, target the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) in the Arabian Sea with a ballistic missile. Russia is the suspect. It rather quickly decided to sail for home. Damaged?

What we are looking at could be an attempted revenge by the Pentagon of that strike by a Russian proxy using their Ukraine proxy.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Putin didn't want this happening he shouldn't have the war carried out like it has been.

Putin cannot help himself. He is risk-averse. He overthinks. He plays eternal 5D chess. He thinks that waiting and not retaliating will eventually bore Russian enemies and they will lose interest destroying Russia.

Will the Ukes actually hit anything with these? No. I can tell you right now the main focus in Kerch Straight Bridge. So just have the pre fab sections ready to go after the Ucoprophilepost stamps get printed. They will also hit fuel tanks destined for Europe and they'll target apartment blocks.

Months ago it was Russian authorities who said it was a matter of when, not if, those missiles would be used to strike at Russia properly. And they already had anyway.

So it really doesn't matter.

Someone is dusting off the Operation Gladio manuals.

This is a good way to stiffen Russia's resolve as to the conditions of the surrender.

MUST READ: LEAKED EMAILS show UK admits it is LOSING Ukraine, creates terrorist stay-behind networks to keep Ukraine fighting for as long as possible...

This includes the use of Western troops via PMCs.

Also seeks to target and destroy alternative media exposing West's proxy war in Ukraine through lawfare...

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/11/16/uk-plot-keep-ukraine-fighting/

Ukraine has shut down 7 of its 9 operating nuclear reactors

7 of 9 operating nuclear reactors in Ukraine have reduced their capacity due to a missile attack, Bloomberg writes.

The IAEA says reactor output has been reduced by between 40% and 90%. Also, observers stationed at the Rivne NPP reported that high-voltage power lines are “currently unavailable.”

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JohninMK wrote:Someone is dusting off the Operation Gladio manuals.

This is a good way to stiffen Russia's resolve as to the conditions of the surrender.

MUST READ: LEAKED EMAILS show UK admits it is LOSING Ukraine, creates terrorist stay-behind networks to keep Ukraine fighting for as long as possible...

This includes the use of Western troops via PMCs.

Also seeks to target and destroy alternative media exposing West's proxy war in Ukraine through lawfare...

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/11/16/uk-plot-keep-ukraine-fighting/

Yeah sure.

Question is: how will they get those men and equipment into the country once Russia wins? All their plans have been utter shit, this one even more so.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:That makes perfect sense, with what happened.

The Russians were sending units in from other Oblasts and getting them organized which led to a few coloums getting destroyed. Which is a clear sign they didn't expect the attack otherwise they would have had brigades ready to counter attack much sooner then they did.

The Russians were caught by surprise in Kursk and their reactions well as the reactions from the government shown that.

Perhaps Gerasimov thought Ukraine wouldn't do such a brazen move and didn't see the need, regardless steps should have been taken if the intel was there

Mercouris has already claimed that he was contacted by one of his sources about a month to a month & a half before the Kursk incursion to inform him that the Ukrainians were gathering forces to attack Kursk. I saved the video where he mentioned that to a playlist somewhere.
And that makes perfect sense. You can't cover up the preparations for something like that in this day & age.

As to pulling units from other Oblasts that's a function of the response, its organization, and the wider defensive strategy and where reserves were deployed - not of whether the attack was expected or not. The only way Russia would have had the brigades ready to immediately repel a Ukrainian invasion involving 10,000 troops was if Russia had that amount of men right on the border. Which is dumb, Russia doesn't defend its borders in such a manner and Operation Barbarossa is a good example of why.

ucmvulcan wrote:probably, but honestly Russia should have the proper dispersal tactics and air defenses set up to make these mostly meaningless.  They should also be dropping those Iranian and North Korean drones on their batteries to render them meaningless.

You can't win a war if all you do is defend and are not allowed to strike back. No matter how well you defend.

The noise from the Ukrainians over the past 2-3 weeks over developing nukes within a few months is likewise part of the same effort of blackmail that Scholz attempted to bring into being a couple of days ago when he called Putin to announce to him the same old demands and platitudes.

However now with the US decision to authorize ATACMS missile strikes, the British and French decisions to authorize strikes with their weapons that followed, and the coming dismissal of Scholz and his replacement with a hardliner by means of a phony election process, who will commit Germany to an analogous decision too - we can see that the West was not bluffing. And that must mean that the 'Ukrainians' are not bluffing about developing nukes either, although they certainly are when they claim that they will do it with their own means.

The situation is escalating to the point of WW3 by now and I suppose the opportunity to cool some heads by demonstrating capability and the will to use it has been missed. NATO is convinced that it can threaten Moscow into submission and there is nothing to be done anymore to dissuade them of the notion. Well, I guess we can hope that the Russian general staff and Pentagon work something out but I wouldn't count on it.

I believe these tweets speak for themselves:

I agree with you, but nor should the idiot west be allowed to push Putin's hand. That said, these missile batteries need to be taken out. Also, if they take out Russian targets then the west's embassies in Kiev need to experience what the chinese did in Belgrade. Put em in body bags and ask, "what did you learn?"

In the event - NATO infrastructure needs to be taken out, along with the means they will be using to attack Russian territory - not only the launchers in the Ukraine but other parts of the chain. And the facilities which produce their missiles.

Because what do you think they will be targeting in Russia themselves. They will be trying to destroy power stations, refineries, command centers, munitions storage, radar sites and military-industrial facilities.

It is simply not valid to put blame on Russia for not "signalling" hard enough to these narcissistic lunatics. The only signal that they will
respond to is the blowback from their attempts at nuclear blackmail. That is, only a hard response has some chance of penetrating their
thick skulls. How is Russia supposed to send a signal with a hard response without any justification? Lob a nuke at Kiev to frighten off
NATzO? No way.

BTW, how is the Khuyiv regime supposed to deliver their nuke at Russian targets? With an ATACMS missile? So the world is supposed to
believe that Khuyiv can develop a miniature nuke from scratch with some gumption and will power? The only thing Khuyiv could develop
is a fat man or little boy sized dirty nuke. They couldn't even build an enriched uranium let alone a plutonium based fission device. They
have no ability to reprocess plutonium and they have no centrifuge farms to enrich uranium. But supposedly they will be terrorizing Russia
with a modern device.

If NATzO plans to give them warheads, then NATzO is planning to get glassed. Their fantasy that Russians will run away in the face of
this is the same retarded nonsense as we had with the 2023 "counter offensive" that was supposed to send Russian soldiers running all
the way back to Moscow.

Cut the transatlantic cables. See how they like losing tens of billions of dollars per day.

One way Russia can easily retaliate is:

Start actively jamming intentionally all drones and recon planes in Ukraine and start jamming them that are above nato states.

The other is have drones constinatnly attacking anything transporting goods at the Ukraines borders with Romania, Poland and alike.

Completely cut off Ukraine from outside. Set up entire no fly zone and up the ante on jamming satellites or blinding them.

Then start mass sending weapons to Yemen and give them all the guidance information they need.

Also start harassing ships in the Baltic.

Satellite guidance and targeting are necessary to direct ATACMS strikes.
If indeed (and there is still a big "if") ATCMS are used to strike Russian territory (outside the newly acquired lands), Russia can bring down these satellites (including Elon Musk's Starlink system). It can also shoot down any Predator, Reaper, Global Hawk flying on or near vicinity of Ukraine and Black Sea.

Biden, the White House and the Pentagon have so far not confirmed that the US has authorized the Ukrainian usage of ATCMS missiles against Russia proper.
The whole thing could be a nothingburger that is designed to muddy the waters and generate a knee-jerk reaction from some circles.
I think it is just a poison pill that Biden/the Democrats are serving Trump and his administration.

You're right, so far we are getting a lot of talk but nothing official so far.

They even said where they "plan" to use the missiles too. So yeah, kinda funny.

NATO threatening Russia is the geopolitical equivalent of "suicide by cop".

Let these pathetic gamma-male shrivelled-weeny blowhards like this Gonna Fellatio-John (who the fck is he anyway?) puff and bluster like the pretentious little twats that they are. Eurotrash need to learn a few hard expensive lessons in applied kinetics. Give them something substantial to feed their inferiority complex.