Indian Su-30MKI: News

There are clowns everywhere and just because a few articles direct the blame for problems in an uneducated way does not mean all are clowns... though all do want to sell papers and you don't sell papers with stories about everything being fine...

GarryB wrote:There are clowns everywhere and just because a few articles direct the blame for problems in an uneducated way does not mean all are clowns... though all do want to sell papers and you don't sell papers with stories about everything being fine...

Those to report on this always seem to be clowns, bullshit reports about T-90S vs Arjun, bullshit reports of Mi-28NE vs AH-64E, bullshit reports on Su-30MKI, bullshit reports on MiG-35 in MMRCA tender, bullshit reports about PAK-FA... they did not report a single time unbiased, like only clowns exist.

You call them clowns but in actual fact what they are are people with opinions that are not the same as ours... if they came to this site and looked at the general opinion I am sure they would claim we are all pro Russian clowns and idiots.

You can say they are wrong, and they will likely say we are wrong.

calling them names is stupid and juvenile and claiming all Indian media are the same is as stupid as claiming all westerners are the same.

Austin has posted plenty of reports from Indian sources that are not anti Russian.

And indeed Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Having biased reports that have no reflection of reality, like this garbage story that precious Indian work on PAK-FA is not appreciated by russians and that the indians know so much and all that other pile of crap that have been posted is just out of reality. I even have seen such nonsense from India stronkkk, claiming the LCH helicopter is more armored than their "Mi-35" which were "penetrated easily" with their bulletproof glass and LCH can withstand higher calibres. I really had to laugh, they use glass that can withstand pistol calibres, but that "journalism" nonsense.

Werewolf wrote:Having biased reports that have no reflection of reality, like this garbage story that precious Indian work on PAK-FA is not appreciated by russians and that the indians know so much and all that other pile of crap that have been posted is just out of reality. I even have seen such nonsense from  India stronkkk, claiming the LCH helicopter is more armored than their "Mi-35" which were "penetrated easily" with their bulletproof glass and LCH can withstand higher calibres. I really had to laugh, they use glass that can withstand pistol calibres, but that "journalism" nonsense.

Sounds like 'Paid News' either from European of American defense firms. Notice how they never criticize military equipment from the NATO sphere of influence.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:Having biased reports that have no reflection of reality, like this garbage story that precious Indian work on PAK-FA is not appreciated by russians and that the indians know so much and all that other pile of crap that have been posted is just out of reality. I even have seen such nonsense from  India stronkkk, claiming the LCH helicopter is more armored than their "Mi-35" which were "penetrated easily" with their bulletproof glass and LCH can withstand higher calibres. I really had to laugh, they use glass that can withstand pistol calibres, but that "journalism" nonsense.

Sounds like 'Paid News' either from European of American defense firms. Notice how they never criticize military equipment from the NATO sphere of influence.

Probably such garbage columnists like this David Axe nuthead that writes whatever one pays for.

India has gone with Rafale so I don't thin they will buy 200+ Su-30 MKI anytime soon

max steel wrote:India has gone with Rafale so I don't thin they will buy 200+ Su-30 MKI anytime soon

They've signed on for 36 Rafaels for now, compared with the original plans that called for 126 of them.

In other words the Indians are going to make only 3 or so squadrons out of them, and I suspect keep them to a niche role where they are superior - high-altitude strike.

The original plan for a medium multi-role fighter designated for general use, complimenting the Su-30MKIs and domestically-produced for decades of further purchase and localization - seems to have been dropped.

Which naturally creates a gap - personally I forsee the Indians filling it with exactly more Su-30MKIs, both now, and further on down the line..

A high interest in Latin America for the Su30MKI, which will be equipped with Rus-Indian Brahmos cruise missile, said to "Interfax-AVN" on Wednesday, the head of department of regional marketing JSC "SPC" Irkut "Victor Lichaev.

"We are now in the active elaboration together with " Rosoboronexport " with two or three countries for which there is an application for the Su-30MK and consultations have taken place," - said V.Lichaev during the exhibition LAAD-2015 in Rio de Janeiro.

The representative of the Irkut explained that he could not name the potential customers for the Su-30MK due to the sensitive geopolitics of the region.

"The interest in our Su-30MK is viewed through the prism of the Su-30MKI with cruise missile Brahmos, which is being tested in India. For this machine is very closely monitored in Latin America, "- said V.Lichaev.

http://vpk.name/news/130333_stranyi_latinskoi_ameriki_interesuyutsya_istrebitelem_su30mki_s_raketoi_bramos.html

I wonder which countries are interested.....I think Argentina would love to get the Su-30-Brahmos combo

flamming_python wrote:

nothing like soothing classical music to go with this lithe ballerina of a (war)bird.

kvs wrote:
Russia doesn't make anything

-Obama, Loser

also exports no fucks at all.

Whats the present status of super sukhoi upgrades of present "SU 30 MKI" to be done in batches. how many have been upgraded ?

or the upgrades still going on ?

A Sukhoi-30 fighter aircraft on Tuesday crashed at Laokhowa in Nagaon district of Assam with both the pilot and co-pilot ejecting safely.

The Su-30 fighter aircraft, flying from Tezpur’s Salanibari Air Force station on a routine sortie, lost connection with the radar at the airforce station at around 12.30 PM and crashed thereafter, a Defence spokesman said here.The aircraft had developed a technical problem and the pilot was forced to abandon the aircraft, he said.

Both the pilots ejected safely and the aircraft crashed at Laokhowa near here.
A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to ascertain the cause of the accident, the spokesman added.

Pinto wrote:Whats the present status of super sukhoi upgrades of present "SU 30 MKI" to be done in batches. how many have been upgraded ?

or the upgrades still going on ?

44 sukhoi's being modified to carry Brahmos A missiles,

But the Super Sukhoi modernization shelved for many reasons,

SajeevJino wrote:

Pinto wrote:Whats the present status of super sukhoi upgrades of present "SU 30 MKI" to be done in batches. how many have been upgraded ?

or the upgrades still going on ?

44 sukhoi's being modified to carry Brahmos A missiles,

But the Super Sukhoi modernization shelved for many reasons,

This is very unfortunate that super sukhoi upgrades has been shelved (any link of this news ?)

Rafale ordered just 36 that too will come in three years. tejas mark 1 not even finally cleared and can not be a substitute for MRCA. Best way out would have been to upgrade su 30 mki and some additional MIG 35. Rafale has gone back on there word and price has been jacked up. 25% discount on buying 36 aircraft is nothing as discounts are always given when you buy whole package readymade with no transfer of technology

Pinto wrote:

This is very unfortunate that super sukhoi upgrades has been shelved (any link of this news ?)

no clear links . But some informations.

New Engine - Not selected yet
New Radar - Not selected yet
RAM Coating - No idea will this happens or Not

Rafale ordered just 36 that too will come in three years. tejas mark 1 not even finally cleared and can not be a substitute for MRCA.

Options are many more, may be more numbers of Rafale in Make in India, Gripen lobby is also in the moves

Best way out would have been to upgrade su 30 mki and some additional MIG 35.

The orders of the Su 30 MKI can be increased to original 272 to 24+40 maybe

Rafale has gone back on there word and price has been jacked up. 25% discount on buying 36 aircraft is nothing as discounts are always given when you buy whole package readymade with no transfer of technology

the 25% makes some sense, since the amount can be spend for more weapons like PGM's and SCALP. also 50% of the money will be invested back into India

I think your quote is breaking forum rules to not to advertize forums and alike.

Werewolf wrote:I think your quote is breaking forum rules to not to advertize forums and alike.

Is partial quoting is not acceptable..

SajeevJino wrote:

Werewolf wrote:I think your quote is breaking forum rules to not to advertize forums and alike.

Is partial quoting is not acceptable..  

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Russian Patriot wrote:
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Done Changed.. indeed that's my Blog Onlee

SajeevJino wrote:

New Engine - Not selected yet
New Radar - Not selected yet
RAM Coating - No idea will this happens or Not

got it.. since idrw is not a good source .. But we can try

DRDO and many of its labs are working on development of radar-absorbent paint and materials,

http://idrw.org/drdo-shows-glimpses-of-iusav-combat-drone-again/

Russia, India in talks on comprehensive modernization of Su-30MKI fighter jets

The upgrade will concern Russian Su-30MKI fighter jets supplied to India around 20 years ago
Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighter

LE BOURGET, June 15. /TASS/. Russia and India are holding talks on comprehensive modernization of Su-30MKI fighter jet, deputy head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Konstantin Biryulin told TASS on Monday at the opening of Le Bourget Paris Air Show 2015.

Commenting on the situation with upgrading Indian Su-30MKI fighter jets, Biryulin, who head the Russian delegation to the show, stressed that "talks are underway with Indian partners on conducting a comprehensive modernization of Su-30MKI jets which were first supplied [to India] around 20 years ago."

"The modernization package includes onboard communication and data transfer systems, as well as radar equipment of Su-30MKI fighter jets. All these systems will be upgraded," he said.
Russia's participation at Le Bourget

Russia’s participation in Le Bourget Paris Air Show 2015 scheduled for June 15-21 has decreased insignificantly despite the uneasy political situation, Biryulin told TASS last week.

"Thirty-nine organizations will present Russia’s aviation and rocket and space industry production at the show. In comparison to the last show in 2013, in which 46 our organizations took part, the decrease is insignificant, though the political situation now is much more difficult than two years ago," Biryulin said.

"We still consider Paris Air Show to be a promising exhibition platform for maintaining and developing dialogue with our partners from Europe and other regions in the world," he stressed.

According to Biryulin, "massive presence in Le Bourget is mostly due to friendly attitude of organizers of the show to Russian participants."

"In the process of preparing for the show we did not face any counteraction or restrictions on forming our exhibition. Though this year the emphasis was made on showcasing our capabilities in designing civil aviation for understandable reasons, the Russian exhibition will also be informative in terms of presenting modern combat aviation," the delegation head noted.

In future modernization of su30 MKI which is being discussed, is there any possibility of installing AESA radars on this aircraft ?

I doubt Su-30MKI could use Irbis or AESA radar from PAK-FA as they are too powerful with 20kW peak power, Su-35 and PAK-FA have more powerful engines to support them with energy. I think they will produce something based on Bars radar with replacing PESA antenna with AESA antenna. Maybe they will modernize processors in Bars to receive better capabilities like modernizing Zaslon to Zaslon-AM radar, which become more capable with processor modernization and antenna is the same. I also wonder how big is the difference in capabilities between export Bars-M radar and domestic Bars-R radar in Su-30SM as it have domestic processors.