Russia's enemy countries

GarryB wrote:Yes... I am half Vulcan...

An eye for an eye and all that left is blind people... a slow painful starvation...

Russia will not benefit from revenge, what Russia needs is justice... but they can't get that because the US and the west will protect their little stooge, so in terms of punishment all they can hope for is to inflict a little economic pain and at the same time sever ties that Turkey could use in the future to harm Russia.

There is no point going into business with a partner that will turn on you when it suits their interests... there are plenty of other countries that have shown interest in being a partner to Russia and will not stab Russia in the back at the first opportunity... and don't have strong ties to groups that are unfriendly to Russia.

(though I really dislike Turks atm...but you all know that)

We have more than one Turkish member on this forum... and so far they have remained respectfully quiet on the matter... of course we do have one new member who tried to put his view across too... you don't have to agree with what they all have to say but I think it is useful to hear it... abusing each other and we have a fight... and how do you win an internet fight... I can because I am a mod, but I don't choose to take part in such meaningless fights... communication should be about resolutions... of course I am only human and can find myself in discussions that are combative rather than instructional...

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

I would include the Anglo buffoons from Australia, New Zealand, Republic of South Africa, Canada.

G7 countries might introduce new sanctions against Russia due to situation in Donbass

OTTAWA, April 24. /TASS/. The Group of Seven (G7) countries might impose new sanctions against the Russian Federation because of the situation in Donbass, according to the joint statement issued on Monday by the foreign ministers of these states and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini, distributed by the Canadian Foreign Ministry.

"Given Russia’s responsibility in the conflict, we urge Russia to stabilize the security situation in the Donbass without delay. We recall that the duration of Donbass-related economic sanctions is clearly linked to Russia’s complete and irreversible implementation of the Minsk Agreements. These sanctions can be rolled back only if Russia truly fulfills its commitments, but we also stand ready to take further restrictive measures should Russia’s actions so require," the statement said.

According to the statement, the G7 countries "reiterate our enduring support for Ukrainian sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders. This includes our non-recognition of Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. We decry the degraded human rights situation in the peninsula, and the violations and abuses committed against its population by Russia in Crimea."

At the same time, the countries, "fully support the efforts within the Normandy format and of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe for a solution to the conflict in eastern Ukraine. We are convinced that the only way a sustainable solution to the conflict can be reached is through the full implementation of the Minsk agreements."

G7 countries accused Russia of destabilizing the situation in the world, however expressed their readiness for cooperation with Moscow, according to the joint statement.

"We are committed to protecting and promoting the rules-based international system. This stands against the background of a pattern of irresponsible and destabilizing Russian behavior, including interference in countries’ democratic systems," the statement said.

According to the statement, the G7 countries "call on Russia to cease this behaviour, which is highly detrimental to prospects for constructive cooperation." "We urge Russia to live up to its international obligations, as well as its responsibilities as a permanent member of the UN Security Council (UNSC), to uphold international peace and security. Notwithstanding, we will continue to engage with Russia on addressing regional crises and global challenges," the statement said.

The meeting of foreign ministers of the G7 countries was held in Toronto, Canada, on April 22-23. A meeting of G7 foreign and security ministers is held on April 23-24. Canada holds the G7 Presidency from January 1 to December 31, 2018.

http://tass.com/world/1001390

Project Canada wrote:

G7 countries might introduce new sanctions against Russia due to situation in Donbass

OTTAWA, April 24. /TASS/. The Group of Seven (G7) countries might impose new sanctions against the Russian Federation because of the situation in Donbass, according to the joint statement issued on Monday by the foreign ministers of these states and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini, distributed by the Canadian Foreign Ministry.

"Given Russia’s responsibility in the conflict, we urge Russia to stabilize the security situation in the Donbass without delay. We recall that the duration of Donbass-related economic sanctions is clearly linked to Russia’s complete and irreversible implementation of the Minsk Agreements. These sanctions can be rolled back only if Russia truly fulfills its commitments, but we also stand ready to take further restrictive measures should Russia’s actions so require," the statement said.

According to the statement, the G7 countries "reiterate our enduring support for Ukrainian sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders. This includes our non-recognition of Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. We decry the degraded human rights situation in the peninsula, and the violations and abuses committed against its population by Russia in Crimea."

At the same time, the countries, "fully support the efforts within the Normandy format and of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe for a solution to the conflict in eastern Ukraine. We are convinced that the only way a sustainable solution to the conflict can be reached is through the full implementation of the Minsk agreements."

G7 countries accused Russia of destabilizing the situation in the world, however expressed their readiness for cooperation with Moscow, according to the joint statement.

"We are committed to protecting and promoting the rules-based international system. This stands against the background of a pattern of irresponsible and destabilizing Russian behavior, including interference in countries’ democratic systems," the statement said.

According to the statement, the G7 countries "call on Russia to cease this behaviour, which is highly detrimental to prospects for constructive cooperation." "We urge Russia to live up to its international obligations, as well as its responsibilities as a permanent member of the UN Security Council (UNSC), to uphold international peace and security. Notwithstanding, we will continue to engage with Russia on addressing regional crises and global challenges," the statement said.

The meeting of foreign ministers of the G7 countries was held in Toronto, Canada, on April 22-23. A meeting of G7 foreign and security ministers is held on April 23-24. Canada holds the G7 Presidency from January 1 to December 31, 2018.

http://tass.com/world/1001390

NATO will stop at nothing until it breaks Russia completely apart    But instead of answering NATO with a strong response, Russia restrains itself and continue to hope for Better relations with nations whose ultimate goal is Russia's total destruction  

Almost three decades after the Soviet Union’s breakup, some politicians in Latvia still see Russia as an enemy.

Russia should be carved up into several parts to give Latvia and the rest of Europe “peace of mind,” Latvian MP Aleksandrs Kirsteins wrote on his Twitter account.

“Only when Russia breaks up into small countries along ethnic lines, will military conflicts finally end and Europe will live a peaceful life for years to come,” Kirsteins wrote in a tweeted comment to an extremist take on the Soviet anthem by the late Russian author Vladimir Voinovich.

​Vladimir Voinovich, who penned “The Life and Extraordinary Adventures of Private Ivan Chonkin” trilogy, “Moscow 2024” and “A Portrait Against the Background of a Myth,” died of a heart attack on Friday night. He was 85.

Anti-Russian slogans are frequent in the Baltic States since they regained their independence in the wake of the USSR’s dissolution in 1991.
In recent years, Baltic governments have made efforts to "squeeze out" the Russian language and, in some cases, Russian speakers themselves.

In Latvia, for example, a law has recently been passed transferring all minority secondary schools to education in Latvian only.

Some local politicians still believe that the current cool in relations with Russia is detrimental to their countries’ well-being.

GarryB wrote:Actually I don't think Russia should not be pushing back, but not via their economy.

How hard would it be to take the new anti ship mach 10, 2,000km range MiG-31 launched Kinzhal and fit it with a tactical nuclear warhead.

The cold war is over, but I think the west didn't pay attention... the logistics of the Soviet Army could never have supported an invasion to the English Channel... or as it would be named after the Soviet attack... Stalins back passage...

They weren't going to invade Europe... they were going to eliminate an enemy threat... and it was going to be fought from eastern europe...

Obviously with nuclear weapons there would be enormous casualties, but this time on both sides... the UK and US combined in both theatres of the war lost maybe a million soldiers... less than a 10th of what germany or the Soviets each lost in a war that only happened because the british and french and americans wanted to destroy germany after WWI.

Now they can make it clear to the west... 100% guarantee there will be no invasion of Europe, and there will be no invasion of the US.

With the new Breeder reactors they should be able to massively build up the numbers of tactical and strategic nuclear weapons... they wont invade the west if there is a problem... they will destroy it.

Putin has been passing on messages but the media are retards who don't pass the message on so the western public does not know that the unique situation in Kosovo that allowed the west to give them some Serbian land led directly to the Russians giving South Ossetia and Abkhazia full autonomy, which led directly to opening Russian borders to both states... they no longer depended on Georgia for survival and that is the real reason Sackofshit invaded.

These new hypersonic missiles, nuclear powered cruise missiles, nuclear torpedo drones, uninterceptable ICBM RVs, and laser defence systems were all a response to the US withdrawing from the ABM treaty... but no one mentioned it in the west... just evil aggressive Russia....

Russia should make some serious demands... in fact if the US wants a new START treaty it needs to pull all its military forces out of western and eastern europe.... Russia did that in the 1990s.. if the US wants peace it can do the same. US nuclear warheads and ABM systems need to be removed from Europe too... otherwise Russia will make lots of ICBMs and tactical nukes to deal with them...

US warship challenges Russia claims in Sea of Japan

Meanwhile..

Two U.S. Marine Aircraft Crash in Sea Off Japan

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/u-s-marine-f-a-18-kc-130-crash-in-sea-off-japan

Exclusive: U.S. senators to try again to pass Russia sanctions bill

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Republican and Democratic senators on Wednesday will introduce a bill that would impose sanctions on Russia’s banking and energy sectors and foreign debt for Moscow’s meddling in U.S. elections and aggression against Ukraine.

It will be introduced by Republican Senator Lindsey Graham and Democratic Senator Bob Menendez, and is a tougher version of the one the two lawmakers backed last year but which failed to pass, Menendez’s office said.

The bill, which was seen by Reuters, may have a better chance of passing Congress now, either as a whole or as amendments to other bills, in the face of growing bipartisan anger over Russia’s interference in other countries’ affairs.

President Donald Trump, who has gone along with previous congressional efforts to increase sanctions on Russia, though sometimes reluctantly, would still have to sign the bill before it become law.

Targets of the sanctions would include: Russian banks that support efforts to interfere in foreign elections; the country’s cyber sector, new sovereign debt; and individuals deemed to “facilitate illicit and corrupt activities, directly or indirectly, on behalf of (Russian President Vladimir) Putin.”

The bill also would impose several strict new measures on Russia’s oil and gas sector, which makes up about 40 percent of the Russian government’s revenues, including sanctioning people who provide goods, services or financing to support the development of crude oil in the country.

Russian state-owned energy projects outside of Russia including investments in liquefied natural gas (LNG) projects also would face sanctions.

Global energy companies including BP, Shell and ENI are likely to oppose the bill as are U.S. based companies including Exxon and Chevron. BP owns nearly 20 percent in Rosneft, Russia’s largest oil producer.

MUELLER PROBE
Members of Congress, including many of Trump’s fellow Republicans, have pushed the president to act more forcefully against Moscow during his presidency, which has been shadowed by Russia-related probes.

U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election and Moscow’s possible collusion with the Trump campaign. Russia has denied interfering in the election and Trump has called the probe a witch hunt.

The Senate, where Republicans have a majority, narrowly failed last month to pass a resolution disapproving of Trump’s easing of sanctions on Russian companies tied to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Supporters of the effort vowed to try again.

Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Congress wanted action to respond to the humanitarian disaster in Syria, where Russia backs President Bashar al-Assad, Moscow’s aggression in Ukraine “and the steady erosion of international norms.”

“One thing is increasingly clear: Moscow will continue to push until it meets genuine resistance,” Menendez told Reuters.

Graham, a leading Republican congressional foreign policy voice, is a Trump ally who called last year’s legislation “the sanctions bill from hell.” He said he was determined to send a strong message to Moscow.

“Our goal is to change the status quo and impose meaningful sanctions and measures against Putin’s Russia,” Graham said in a statement emailed to Reuters. “He should cease and desist meddling in the U.S. electoral process, halt cyberattacks on American infrastructure, remove Russia from Ukraine, and stop efforts to create chaos in Syria.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-senators-to-again-try-to-pass-russia-sanctions-bill-idUSKCN1Q22J9

andalusia wrote:The Americans are probably gearing up for war in the future with Russia and they are confident that the F-35 will make a big difference:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/f-35s-training-americas-stealth-142000656.html