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    Post  sundoesntrise Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:59 am

    andalusia wrote:People here in the US have said that China's nuclear arsenal is vastly inferior to both the US and Russia; What is the exact nuclear arsenal of China?

    I read somewhere a few years ago that their arsenal is only 300 warheads but I believe China has increased that number.

    The US hasn't built a nuclear weapon in over 30 years, nor has it tested a nuclear weapon in over thirty years. It's ICMB force is ancient. Majority of nukes are in storage facilities and not combat ready, those that are combat ready are clustered in the Dakotas. With the level of infiltration going on in the USA (in every frigging level of their Intel agencies) I am absolutely sure the Chinese know where each and every one of those nukes are.

    Aside from that Jojo Biden + Administration is clearly against nuclear weapons and has on several occasions blocked the US military from keeping its nuclear arsenal combat ready.

    US nuclear force is not in good shape right now.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:38 am

    Much more interesting that the Russian-"Ukranian" melodrama.

    Came sooner than I thought. First test.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:02 am

    Honestly I cant think of a single time that the Chinese leadership reacted swiftly and forcefully against anything the US has done in the last 10-15 years. People say the USSR was too cautious. I think China is more cautious. Not saying it is bad. But when you live among madmen, this can backfire

    Right up until Russia invaded the Ukraine people in the west were talking about how weak Putin was and how HATO forces would crush them in days or hours rather than weeks or months and that their worst nightmare will be an Afghanistan type scenario.... presumably to try to create a rash stupid blunt attack that HATO can use its guerilla tactics to damage Russian forces remorselessly and force a retreat as they did in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

    Well it has been 6 months and it is the west pissing away money and equipment and weapons... they aren't asking for real peace yet, but they are not far away...

    Winter is coming and turbines are being removed to be repaired so the gas is not flowing... ironically the Germans complain that the reasons for reduced gas flow are all political and in a sense they are because NSII is ready to go... but there will be no NSIII.

    If Germany can't make the decision to save their economy then Russia is not obliged to give them an easy way out.

    Regarding Taiwan... China can play it any way they like... who gives a shit what the west thinks... this is a place Russia and Putin are at and I think they are finally happy after two decades of stress and bullshit and stupid games.

    If the west wants to ignore red lines then so be it.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:06 am

    With the level of infiltration going on in the USA (in every frigging level of their Intel agencies) I am absolutely sure the Chinese know where each and every one of those nukes are.

    Their level of incompetence with money is actually very impressive.... it would not surprise me if they had lost a few nukes with their creative accountancy practises.... like treating a loan as income..., and prostitution and illegal gambling and the illegal drug trade as part of their economy....

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    Post  Kiko Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:18 pm

    Infamous Nancy has always had this stinking odour of stardom all around of herself.
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    Post  Backman Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:27 pm

    Chinese Su-35 fighters are flying over the Taiwan Strait right now- Intel Slava

    That's an endorsement Very Happy
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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:46 pm

    And as expected, the bitch lands in Taipei. And as expected, China just pussies out. Mad

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:04 pm

    They did it in Ukraine (parading everyone), they'll do it in Taiwan too.

    Nothing the Empire's enemies can do about it except pearl clutch... "How dare they?"... while their bluffs are called out with everyone paying attention.

    Well there is something they can do but balls are in massive shortage in certain capitals around the world.... "supply chain issues" you see lol1 Play the "long game", do the "smart-play", "asymmetrics"

    That multipolar world order can't come soon enough for the "near-peer" powers.

    It's what it's.

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    Post  sundoesntrise Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:14 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:And as expected, the bitch lands in Taipei. And as expected, China just pussies out. Mad

    They will most likely go for a calculated response around some of the islets near the mainland (Kinmen, Lienchang etc). Basically what Eric Prince suggested on Bannon's show not too long ago.

    Not enough to really upset the dominant one and hence endanger the current status quo which they apparantly still value big time, yet something for the domestic audience which must be reeling from this bitchslap in the face.

    It's a clearcut humiliation and they've got to do something, anything except for BS military exercises and fake bravado basically. This ass whooping is so denigrating that they won't be able to spin themselves out of it using the usual chest pumping flying dragon rhetoric.

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    Post  Backman Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:33 pm



    Xi has cucked. China humiliated. Pelosi has landed.

    This makes Putin the most powerful man vs the US empire. It aint Xi

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    Post  Hole Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:36 pm

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    Chinese war games coming up in 2 days.

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    Post  Backman Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:36 pm

    Hang on

    #BREAKING
    🇨🇳🪖⚠ — Chinese People's Liberation Army Eastern Military Command: We will carry out Joint Military Operations around Taiwan island from August 2 evening local time

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:43 pm

    Don't underestimate the chest pumping flying dragon technique. The Bear humping, silent claw technique worked for Russia for 8 years straight and is still working on sheeple worldwide. Give it a couple days or a week.

    The bottom-line is that the Empire will continue to align their pieces in the Pacific region and work their assets inside Taiwan to position itself for the moment when they believe it's prudent to break the status-quo, and support Taiwan independence, forcing the Chinese to war.

    The Chinese are behaving much like the Russians. Doing anything under the sun to not "fall for the trap", playing the "long game".... hoping the empire collapses... hoping that the empire somehow forgets unfinished business while it's bickering at home.... praying to all the pagan and modern gods and religions known to man to avoid facing the uncomfortable decision before them. In essence, hoping for the inevitable to be otherwise. There is only one way to knock the empire out of its top spot, and that is, to fight them for it. The anglo's will not relinquish and concede like the foolish Soviets.... if anything because the Soviet disintegration is a manual of what NOT to do when an empire is on the ropes.... They'll fight and won't concede until soundly beaten, and so they'll take the fight to their enemies, and preferably close to their land, as is obviously the case. For the empire to be beaten it requires someone, singular or plural, doing the beating. Neither Russia nor China will get the championship belt due to a no-contest decision.


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    Post  Backman Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:59 pm

    No has to mean no. This is why China has to do something. Shoot her plane on the ground at least so that she has to take something else home.

    British MPs plan visit to Taiwan as tension with China simmers

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/01/british-mps-plan-visit-to-taiwan-as-tension-with-china-simmers

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:00 pm

    The Xi express. Hopefully he can join Putin soon for some of that ice cream. Remissness about the biggest bluffs in their political careers. It sure ain't easy.
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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:26 pm

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:40 pm

    China can play the sanctions card with Taiwan and it will hurt Taiwan but it will be fuel for those in the separatist camp and it won't break them. These matters are extremely simple, almost always. Forceful elite removal... by coup or war.

    Just look at Ukraine.... in the end, it was war anyway.

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    Post  thegopnik Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:43 pm

    https://boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog the china bashing is really bad.
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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:47 pm

    We'll see if US carrier dick waving is going to come around this time. I think it will be the US that will chicken out.

    There are calls for action to prevent "humiliation" but just what actions those have to be is never clarified. China can
    retaliate on its own schedule and with actions it decides on. Attacking Taiwan or Pelosi's plane is rather stupid. Just
    because some smelly old bag took a flight to a disputed territory is not a basis for war or terrorism.

    If the US deploys weapons systems on Taiwan, then China should take them out, Israeli style. The rotten clowns
    in Washington will have no response. This will be infinitely smarter and more effective than attacking Pelosi's plane.

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:18 pm

    The U.S doesn't have to do anything stupid other than continue to prop up and assist those willing to fight for them. Chinese against Chinese, Russians against Russians ehm... "Ukranians". The best army, navy and airforce money can buy is a proxy army of your enemy's own. They see a clear vulnerability and weakness and they competently do not let it go, instead they work on exposing it and using it to cause maximum pain. Everything else is for suckers as is the second guessing that rules the capitals of their enemies.

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    Post  Kiko Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:37 pm

    Moscow urged Washington to recognize a new reality in which there is no place for US hegemony, 02.08.2022.

    The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs calls on the United States to refrain from actions that undermine regional stability and international security, and to recognize the reality that there is no place for American hegemony.

    The ministry issued such a message in connection with the visit of the speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan.

    “We call on Washington to refrain from actions that undermine regional stability and international security and recognize the new geopolitical reality, in which there is no longer room for American hegemony,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    As Russian President Vladimir Putin said earlier, the special military operation in Ukraine marked the beginning of the breakdown of the American-style world order and the transition to a truly multipolar world, which is based not on the liberal globalist egocentrism of the United States, but on the true sovereignty of the peoples.

    https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1032760-mid-rossiya-ssha

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    Post  Hole Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:55 pm

    https://thesaker.is/nancy-braves-the-chinese-dragon-and-wins/

    Some good points in the article.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:01 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:The U.S doesn't have to do anything stupid other than continue to prop up and assist those willing to fight for them. Chinese against Chinese, Russians against Russians ehm... "Ukranians". The best army, navy and airforce money can buy is a proxy army of your enemy's own. They see a clear vulnerability and weakness and they competently do not let it go, instead they work on exposing it and using it to cause maximum pain. Everything else is for suckers as is the second guessing that rules the capitals of their enemies.

    Well, I don't like to agree with you but it is like it is. The situation for China is a lot more favorable than for Russia, since Russia still has old relics of khazarian members within the country and government structures playing the 5th column and hurting Russia. China has a lot stricter government with little to no 5th columnists but with a huge potential to not only be regional dominator but also completely outcast the US from the region. However, with all that balls are indeed rare to find and even the Iranians had more balls to be blunt and attack Muricans unpunished. If China really had the balls it could take Taiwan without any doubt, regardless if they roll over it Democracy style or regain their territory and people Russian Mir style. However, they had to much what Russia still has, weak bluffs without gunpoweder behind their promises, unfortunately.

    If your enemy is trying to castrate you better proof that you have balls of steel, if not your bluffs will be the reason you lose your balls.


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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:31 pm

    The only reason you would read the Saker is to get some good-feeling propaganda so you can sleep well at night knowing the future is bright, and that the empire's days are counted.

    That garbage hot take is laughable. Somehow any move or humiliation dished by the U.S as it moves in the chessboard = a strengthening of China. The Ukranian war and all related moves = a strengthening of Russia.

    In other words, "bring in more", "everything is fine". The more aggressive the move, the more significant and potentially damaging the move by the U.S the more somehow their enemy gets stronger. The more punches I receive, the better in shape I get. Just hope and cross fingers of course that I don't get knocked out by one of them.... it's in the fine print. This is the same clown that predicted the Ukranian war to great detail.... except he got everything wrong up until the day the conflict erupted, switching gears quick. The U.S should of course not aggravate tensions, tuck itself away, keep to its business only to Latin America and slide away into irrelevance, leaving its strategic rivals to grow unimpeded... how cute of him. Russian and Chinese propaganda do coincide in that line greatly.

    Anyway that's some strong life advice. Why doesn't he test it? Take a selfie of the results.

    Clowns like that don't roll off the factory floors like they used to. The fact that the man is running his grift on the back of idiots that read his shit tells you even more about the ignorance worldwide, for any camp. People love being lied to. The Florida weather is doing him just fine.


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    Post  Kiko Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:42 pm

    Russia should introduce right now a move at the UNSC against US adventurism.

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