The Situation in the Ukraine. #1

Firebird wrote:There is no option. Send in the army. These are often Russian people (despite their passports) and those who choose to ally with their Russian brothers, who are being attacked and killed by monsters from the W Ukraine.

And give terrorist state America some of this same "medicine".

Yanukovich cant negotiate with Nazis and terrorists. They are American backed scum, pure and simple.

i agree with this statement,

what is the point of being political if the deals made have no worth?. and its not like anyone honestly expected the neo-nazi's and import psycho rioters to stand down did they?. or how these people are going to use the weapons and ammo they raided from government depots. the bolt action rifles and sidearms displayed on TV is just the beginning and if not dealth with its going to get a lot worse.


the west can shout "sanctions" all they want. Ukraine can either watch their country being destabilized slowly to the point where it becomes just as screwed up to the West's liking without any security of functional government. or intervene now and hard against these western-backed elements of insurgency.

personally, i would have started to deploy a hard response as soon i got messages of riot police being shot by firearms.




...and then there is this:

RT: Crimean MPs are considering bringing up the question of returning the peninsula to Russia if the escalation of violence in the country continues.

The local deputy of the ruling Party of Regions, Nikolay Kolisnichenko, has addressed the Supreme Council of the autonomous republic saying that “if the situation in Ukraine is not resolved, we as deputies must raise the issue of returning Crimea to Russia,” local media quotes the MP as saying.

The Crimean peninsula was transferred from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1954. Following the breakup of the Soviet Union, Russia continued to lease part of the ex-Soviet naval base in Sevastopol for its Black Sea Fleet. According to the latest 2001 survey, 58.5 percent of the Crimean population is Russian.

Austin wrote:

Regular wrote:

Austin wrote:If Ukraine joins EU will the south region of Ukraine will protest ?

Ae You serious dude? EU membership was never proposed to them. They can't join even if they wanted to.

So what is the fuss about then , Free Trade Agreement with EU ?

Russian Patriot is right, its about isolating Russia economically and denying its strategic assets in the country.

i live in the E.U and where in the millitary of one of their country's army before i resigned voluntarily. this is about a dirty game played by the West under pretext of democracy and free trade. but what they do is the same as they do in Syria for example. support all opposition elements to destabilize the current goverment so the U.S can replace it with one that listens to them.

i am really not a western NATO ex-soldier with a grudge against its former employer, but ive kind off been out there and stood by while dirty political games where executed by politicians. and this exactly fits their strategy.

found this on RT: Ukraine police returning fire while retreating. and what they do is in my opinion is restraint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCzIIFAsGk4#t=16


Edit: and why i personally feel no shred of empathy for the "peacefull protestors". these policemen are serving their country while their fammily's at home are threatened by these neo-nazi scum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhL5mlB8Wjc

im serious, with some comments i read. the only question ringing in my head is how old are some members posting here?.

its either that or they never left their room in their parents house to actually find out how the world works...

there will be no obvious breaking of rules, these are political games. they use Ukranian opposition as expendable assets. if they lose, well no loss. they where tools bought by money and served their purpose. it was just money.it looks like they are not involved but meanwhile are fully in control of what the oppositions do and do not. the radical elements are on a payroll tough, these are national and neo-nazi elements that suddenly got the money to organize, outfit and mobilise....how do you figure they got the money from?. some wear 1300 dollar body armour, go figure.

this whole ordeal is politics being fought at the highest level trough proxy's. witch the West initiated after Ukraine government did not want to join the E.U. and i am not the only one that found it surprisingly coincidental that after the "revelation" of the U.S political phonecall forming a puppet government suddenly the opposition took up firearms and started shooting and violence after a "truce".

and the exact same thing is going on in Venezuela, exact same type of riots and armed violence. same time, and different country resisting western authority.