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The Situation in the Ukraine. #5
arpakola- Posts : 1510
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well.. Yiaros is acting ?
few weeks ago ..
and here .. the Gas explosion today !!!!!
and here .. the Gas explosion today !!!!!
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It's like in a western - two people are ready to fire a round in each other heads, but call themselves partners.I'm sure Russia can count on its partners™ in the west
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They'll tell us, it's russian terrorists. You'll seeand here .. the Gas explosion today !!!!! What a Face
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Except that I don't see the Americans calling the Russians 'Partners'. No, I've never seen that Psaki statement so far. Neither Nuland's, nor Obama's, Kerry's...Asf wrote:It's like in a western - two people are ready to fire a round in each other heads, but call themselves partners.I'm sure Russia can count on its partners™ in the west
No, I'm afraid only America is the 'Partner' here...
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Yeah, Bush looked into Putin's eyes and said he's a great guy, but those times have passed. Now there are no cowboys in the white houseExcept that I don't see the Americans calling the Russians 'Partners'.
I mean, they have no partners as they deem themselves superior, the only and the greatest. Such a godlike nation can't have partners, only a bunch of satellites. Still the russian diplomancy is quite politically correct (they even call a nigger "Mr. President", excuse me my racist joke )
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Not too keen on racism...actually I seriously resent it!Asf wrote:Yeah, Bush looked into Putin's eyes and said he's a great guy, but those times have passed. Now there are no cowboys in the white houseExcept that I don't see the Americans calling the Russians 'Partners'.
I mean, they have no partners as they deem themselves superior, the only and the greatest. Such a godlike nation can't have partners, only a bunch of satellites. Still the russian diplomancy is quite politically correct (they even call a nigger "Mr. President", excuse me my racist joke )
Had a girlfriend who was black and I admire Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin too.
So, I didn't really get that joke. It was a joke, right?
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arpakola wrote:few weeks ago ..
and here .. the Gas explosion today !!!!!
those where my toughts exactly, the fun part of these rediculous russia-provoking gas annoyance's by Right sector/Ukraine goverment is that Europe will not tolerate disruption in its gas flows to keep people's attention away from whats happening in Ukraine. the last thing Brussel wants is people waking up when suddenly the gas stops flowing.
because when Bil's dad comes home and finds a frantic wife yelling the Sauna is not working and she has no more hot water comming out of the kitchen then suddenly Billy's dad is "concerned", but Billy's dad goes ballistic when his gas-barbeque is no longer working while enjoying a soccer-match with friends while he paid his bills.
then he goes looking for the reason of the problem. and "explosion in ukraine gaspipe" and "ukraine refuses to pay its bills"...or "ukraine siphons off eu paid Gas" is not going to improve Billy's dad's mood or symphathy for EU politicians and Ukraine itself.
as long it happens to other people its all "terrible" and "Tragic" for a lot of Westerners. untill it hits them in their home. im interrested how this is going to play out.
its time for eastern EU members to act against brussels now too as they depend the most on Russian gas. if i was a head of state i was not going to risk my nation comming without Gas with the approaching winter because of a bunch of nazi monkey's blowing up pipelines in Ukraine.
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U got to hear this !!!
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^^^
I've seen that mate.
The unedited stuff is much, much better! Shows how shyte Ukie propaganda is.
The Russian TV did a poor job at editing the stuff, It's far more PR worth if they ran the whole thing.
I've seen that mate.
The unedited stuff is much, much better! Shows how shyte Ukie propaganda is.
The Russian TV did a poor job at editing the stuff, It's far more PR worth if they ran the whole thing.
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arpakola wrote:few weeks ago ..
and here .. the Gas explosion today !!!!!
here comes the Spiegel !!!!
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/
it was the Russians..!!!!
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^^^
Oh, I expect nothing less from them.
Spiegel is just an American Paper that publishes it's propaganda in German...(as if there is a remote chance for anti-American ones)...LOL
We should probably give up on expecting the western media to be honest.
Oh, I expect nothing less from them.
Spiegel is just an American Paper that publishes it's propaganda in German...(as if there is a remote chance for anti-American ones)...LOL
We should probably give up on expecting the western media to be honest.
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Are you really that zealous toward silly US custom of calling afro-americans "black" instead of "negro" as if Latin is more offensive than English?Not too keen on racism...actually I seriously resent it!
I had a girlfriend who was ukrainian and I don't understand how calling someone "moskal" or "hohol" (or, say, "nigger") can make him worse than he is.Had a girlfriend who was black
It was about insulting ObamaSo, I didn't really get that joke
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Down goes the Bulgarian govermnet due to concelation of South Stream..!!!
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No, not really keen on political correctness either. As long as people aren't offended by calling them stuff, you can refer to them however suits you best.Asf wrote:Are you really that zealous toward silly US custom of calling afro-americans "black" instead of "negro" as if Latin is more offensive than English?
Well, it can't make them worse, but they can take offense off of it. Same as calling someone a 'dickhead' creates an international diplomatic incident.Asf wrote:I had a girlfriend who was ukrainian and I don't understand how calling someone "moskal" or "hohol" (or, say, "nigger") can make him worse than he is.
Couldn't care less on who is the President of the US, their policy is always the same, no matter of that fact. Not true with Russia though.Asf wrote:It was about insulting Obama
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Bulgarian media is reporting that it was because the ruling party didn't do well in the European elections. It doesn't mention South Stream...but it could be the reason (behind the curtain).arpakola wrote:Down goes the Bulgarian govermnet due to concelation of South Stream..!!!
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WARNING GRAPHIC!
Tweet says:
вечная память
Tweet says:
Poor LadyTwitter wrote:This woman drinking tea when in the house flew into a Ukrainian missile.
вечная память
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Don't bother to post any source from Spiegel, in last 10 years it become like a cartoon like parody of FOX News and that is already low quality.
Spiegel which is more often refered as Schmirgel (a pun to smear crap), has used several times videos from Iraq and addressed tham of cruelty of Assads soldiers or used mexican drug cartel execution videos dubbed with arabic allahu akbar nonsense, executing people with chainsaw and so on.
To be honest there is not a single major News Network or Agency that is not controlled by US, what i know and recognize that only independend news which do not have lot of followers maybe a few hundreds maybe thousands that actually telling like it is without blaming without evidence everyone else like Putin,Russia,Assad,Gaddafi and the poor Ukraine no nazis there all fine.
The US empire got nuts since Syrian unleashed fake revolution with terrorists from abroad. Since this Syrian war the western media is completly ridiculous, using such clowns as Jen Psaki, John Jew Kohn and the total blatant hypocrite Propaganda blaming Putin and Russia for everything while completly open arming,financing and sending terrorists into Syria and Ukraine, but smearing crap that Putin is invading (no proofs), that Russia has blackops in Ukraine (no proof), that it was russia who unleashed this "terrorism" and that it is totally unbelieveable that common people would have any problems with Nazis in government that are threatening to wipe out millions of people with use of Nuclear weapons, all those thousands and all those millions who are against Kiev junta are all paid by Putin directly everyone is instructed all are from Russia.
The US is not giving a single flying f**k about Infowar anymore they completley go full offense through vassals, but the astonishing thing is that western countries are still calm about this bullcrap. I think we reached the tipping point of Decadence in western countries where people are even to stupid and to lazy at the same time even tho their life is in danger, they will only recognize this situation when they are already forced into war with eastern europe.
Spiegel which is more often refered as Schmirgel (a pun to smear crap), has used several times videos from Iraq and addressed tham of cruelty of Assads soldiers or used mexican drug cartel execution videos dubbed with arabic allahu akbar nonsense, executing people with chainsaw and so on.
To be honest there is not a single major News Network or Agency that is not controlled by US, what i know and recognize that only independend news which do not have lot of followers maybe a few hundreds maybe thousands that actually telling like it is without blaming without evidence everyone else like Putin,Russia,Assad,Gaddafi and the poor Ukraine no nazis there all fine.
The US empire got nuts since Syrian unleashed fake revolution with terrorists from abroad. Since this Syrian war the western media is completly ridiculous, using such clowns as Jen Psaki, John Jew Kohn and the total blatant hypocrite Propaganda blaming Putin and Russia for everything while completly open arming,financing and sending terrorists into Syria and Ukraine, but smearing crap that Putin is invading (no proofs), that Russia has blackops in Ukraine (no proof), that it was russia who unleashed this "terrorism" and that it is totally unbelieveable that common people would have any problems with Nazis in government that are threatening to wipe out millions of people with use of Nuclear weapons, all those thousands and all those millions who are against Kiev junta are all paid by Putin directly everyone is instructed all are from Russia.
The US is not giving a single flying f**k about Infowar anymore they completley go full offense through vassals, but the astonishing thing is that western countries are still calm about this bullcrap. I think we reached the tipping point of Decadence in western countries where people are even to stupid and to lazy at the same time even tho their life is in danger, they will only recognize this situation when they are already forced into war with eastern europe.
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Guys, too much whining. Any news from the battlefields?
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Well, 'European democracy' doesn't really have any limits:
Broadcasts of more Russian TV channels could be banned in Ukraine
This is just too familiar. European sponsored states always cover the 'freedom of information' first.
So that there are no misunderstandings, you see...the centralized Washington/Brussels narrative needs to be followed, and opposing opinions might create confusion.
How people still believe this 'EU&USA democracy' crap is beyond me...
Broadcasts of more Russian TV channels could be banned in Ukraine
Kyiv PostKyiv Post wrote:Ukraine's National Council for Television and Radio could turn to court again to have some of the Russian television channels banned in Ukraine "in connection with citizens' numerous complaints" about the content of television programs broadcast by them, the regulator said in a posting on its website on June 17.
This is just too familiar. European sponsored states always cover the 'freedom of information' first.
So that there are no misunderstandings, you see...the centralized Washington/Brussels narrative needs to be followed, and opposing opinions might create confusion.
How people still believe this 'EU&USA democracy' crap is beyond me...
Nothing positive, that's why we whine.Zino wrote:Guys, too much whining. Any news from the battlefields?
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http://novorossia.su/ru/node/2811zino wrote:Guys, too much whining. Any news from the battlefields?
http://m.vk.com/away.php?to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxLOQlLqvrk8%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&post=-70979612_1077
http://m.vk.com/dnr_official
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[youtube]4ot2y26yDTM[/youtube
Vandals in Odessa destroy commemorate tables. One is for Vladimir Shcherbytsky, the First Secretary of Ukranian SSR (part of USSR) from 1972 to 1989.
Vandals in Odessa destroy commemorate tables. One is for Vladimir Shcherbytsky, the First Secretary of Ukranian SSR (part of USSR) from 1972 to 1989.
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zino wrote:Guys, too much whining. Any news from the battlefields?
Ma, solo per te - ecco che c'è:
è una mappa che [presumibilmente] mostra dove la Naz-guardia ha entrato Lugansk.
Dunque, come vedi, è male...molto male...purtroppo
And if the rebels don't receive some SERIOUS SUPPORT...well...my pessimistic prognosis is: They're doomed...
And it makes me very arrabbiato
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macedonian wrote:zino wrote:Guys, too much whining. Any news from the battlefields?
Ma, solo per te - ecco che c'è:
è una mappa che [presumibilmente] mostra dove la Naz-guardia ha entrato Lugansk.
Dunque, come vedi, è male...molto male...purtroppo
And if the rebels don't receive some SERIOUS SUPPORT...well...my pessimistic prognosis is: They're doomed...
And it makes me very arrabbiato
http://rt.com/news/166480-yasen-class-submarine-severodvinsk/
Hope. Dies last
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Brave, heroic people this lot!
Donetsk, Luhansk leaders say contacts with presidential settlement envoy are impossible
“I will speak to her only when Ukraine withdraws its troops from our territory,” the head of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic says
One has to admire their courage!
@arpakola: I hear you mate. That's great in the grand scheme of things. Nothing that makes a difference for the people on the ground in Donbas though.
Donetsk, Luhansk leaders say contacts with presidential settlement envoy are impossible
“I will speak to her only when Ukraine withdraws its troops from our territory,” the head of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic says
TASS wrote:DONETSK/LUHANSK, June 17./ITAR-TASS/. Leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics are not ready in the current conditions to have any contacts with Irina Gerashchenko, who was appointed Ukrainian president’s envoy for conflict settlement in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Denis Pushilin, the speaker of the Donetsk Republic’s parliament, told ITAR-TASS over the phone that contacts were possible only with mediation. “I have very big doubts she will be able to do anything, given (Ukrainian President Petro) Poroshenko does not control the situation,” he said.
Meanwhile, Valery Bolotov, the head of the Luhansk People’s Republic, said he was not going to have any contacts with Gerashchenko until Ukraine pulled back its troops from the region. “I will speak to her only when Ukraine withdraws its troops from our territory,” he told a news conference, adding that the Ukrainian side was only building up its forces. “As a matter of fact, they want no talks at all,” he said.
Earlier on Tuesday, Poroshenko appointed Irina Gerashchenko, a lawmaker with the UDAR party, his envoy for peace settlement of the conflict in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Among her competences is “the organization and participation in consultations, roundtable meetings and conferences.
One has to admire their courage!
@arpakola: I hear you mate. That's great in the grand scheme of things. Nothing that makes a difference for the people on the ground in Donbas though.
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Breaking news: (update) 2 Russian journalists killed in Ukraine military shelling
Well, that's that.
I'm sure there 'll be more help when people are killed in their thousands. (I'm not really sure actually)
Still not advocating overt* help here, mind you, but as I've said about a hundred times before - there's a lot of things that Russia can do covertly, and is not doing them (unless both we and Strelkov don't know about them).
Anyhow, Вечная память to the journos.
And to the poor civilians dying every day there...Вечная память.
*(because I believe that Russia is pressured into taking the bait to intervene overtly)
RT wrote:Two journalists for Russian TV channel Rossiya have died from wounds sustained during a Ukrainian military shelling attack near Lugansk, eastern Ukraine. Reporter Igor Kornelyuk passed away on the operating table, a doctor at the hospital confirmed to RT.
Well, that's that.
I'm sure there 'll be more help when people are killed in their thousands. (I'm not really sure actually)
Still not advocating overt* help here, mind you, but as I've said about a hundred times before - there's a lot of things that Russia can do covertly, and is not doing them (unless both we and Strelkov don't know about them).
Anyhow, Вечная память to the journos.
And to the poor civilians dying every day there...Вечная память.
*(because I believe that Russia is pressured into taking the bait to intervene overtly)