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The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Morpheus Eberhardt- Posts : 1925
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Sitrep
Very good concise summary here:
Sitrep
Sitrep
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Situation in Novorossiya
Situation in Novorossiya, later on 13/08/14
Source: http://kot-ivanov.livejournal.com/
Source: http://kot-ivanov.livejournal.com/
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Yesterday I asked my source: How are we doing? and he said "perfect"
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Hannibal Barca wrote:Yesterday I asked my source: How are we doing? and he said "perfect"
Thanks. That's my impression too.
I think the above map doesn't reflect the latest situation very well; apparently the situation has markedly improved for the Novorussians.
The sitrep link I have provided above is apparently a much better representation of the situation.
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Of course maps can be misleading in gorilla wars but my man told me characteristically that Ukrainians look like dizzy and weary.
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Situation in Novorossiya
Situation in Novorossiya, still later on 13/08/14
Resolution is not good this time.
Notice that pocket No 4 of the previous map has disappeared, apparently annihilated.
Source: http://kot-ivanov.livejournal.com/
Resolution is not good this time.
Notice that pocket No 4 of the previous map has disappeared, apparently annihilated.
Source: http://kot-ivanov.livejournal.com/
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/item/%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BA%CE%AC%CE%BB%CF%85%CF%88%CE%B7-%CF%83%CE%BF%CE%BA-%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%82-%CF%83%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%BB%CE%AF%CE%B5%CF%82-%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%8E%CE%BD-%CE%B1%CE%BE%CE%B9%CF%89%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%8D%CF%87%CF%89%CE%BD-%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CF%84%CE%BF-%CF%80%CF%89%CF%82-%CF%84%CE%BF-su-25-%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85-%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%AD%CE%B2%CE%BF%CF%85
. the following are dialogues captured from radio of two persons
the one is high ranking of Kolomoisky operations and the other of Valery Geletey.
they refer to dead or wounded organ trading and on the reason why the su had to use aa missiles apart the gun fire..
.
28.06.2014 20:35
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Набери меня, я тебе не дозваниваюсь, ты вне зоны. Что там решилось?
Call me, I can’t reach you, always out of coverage zone. What was the final decision?
И кстати, что с ранеными? Вас разместили?
By the way, what is going on with wounded? everything O’k? [Referring to the wounded Ukrainian soldiers chosen for disassembly for organs to be sold on the black
market]
28.06.2014 20:39
Юрій Береза
Раненых разместили, все нормально. Только главврачу пришлось немного мозги прочистить) провели политбеседу, так сказать, применили меры))
The wounded were placed, everything is fine. Only the head physician give us hard time, had to do little “brain washing”, so to speak, “applied measures”))
[Apparently one of the doctors refused to participate in organ removal operations. Please note two smily faces at the end of the sentence]
28.06.2014 20:40
Юрій Береза
Сегодня все не смогу – надо ребят отправить. Завтра утром. Подойдет?
Wouldn’t be able to do everything today – need to send boys out. Tomorrow morning? If its O’k with you.
28.06.2014 20:40
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Да, нормально. А насчет врача не слышал еще!
Sure, acceptable. I haven’t heard about doctor yet!
28.06.2014 20:41
Юрій Береза
Да теперь все ок.
Everything is fine now [Doctor was killed]
28.06.2014 20:41
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Я не сомневаюсь
I never doubted you.
17.07.2014 21:22
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Ладно, фиг с ним. Что? И как?
Screw it. What and How [it went]?
17.07.2014 21:23
Юрій Береза
землей – прямым – воздухом
Ground [SAM] – direct [referring to cannon] – air [air to air missile]
17.07.2014 21:24
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
А воздухом какого хера???
Why air in the fracking world? [Air to air missile]
17.07.2014 21:26
Юрій Береза
Передали, что не смог долго удерживаться там, типа высоко. Сделал один прямым. Не проканало. Тогда пришлось воздухом.
[Pilot] reported that he could not keep plane so high for a long time. Made one straight [cannon salvo]. Didn’t worked. Then had to use air to air [missile].
17.07.2014 21:27
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
А почему сначала харьковских подняли?
Why Kharkov was involved? [Air defense military command center]
17.07.2014 21:30
Юрій Береза
Они сказали, что сначала команда пришла из Киева на харьковский пульт, а когда он начал разворачиваться, тогда уже остальных подключили.
They said that the first orders came from Kiev to Kharkov control [Air defense military command center] , only when they went on defcon others begun to follow.
17.07.2014 21:32
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
ясно, ну расскажешь еще потом подробнее. Ты без задержек?
got it, well later on you’ll provide me all details [in personal conversation] Any delays?
17.07.2014 21:34
Юрій Береза
Да, скоро на месте буду. Только закончил с журналистами.
Absolutely, soon well be there, Just finished with journalists.
01.01.2014 22:32
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
З Новим Роком, Анатолій Степанович! Бажаю вам, бажаю всій країні, бажаю всім нам, щоб в Новому Році ця скотина в короні як найшвидше була скинута зі свого трону волею
усього народу! Бажаю в новому році здобути нову, сильну та прекрасну країну! Ще раз з Новим Роком! Слава Україні!
Happy New Year, Anatoly Stepanovich! I wish you, the whole country, and all of us in upcoming New Year that beast [ex. president Yanukovich] will be deposed as soon
as possible. I wish for a new, strong and beautiful country! Once again, Happy New Year! Glory to Ukraine!
03.01.2014 19:20
Анатолій Гриценко
З Новим Роком, Слава! Тобі також всього найкращого у наступному році!
Happy New Year, Slava! Same to you, all the best wishes!
03.01.2014 19:21
Анатолій Гриценко
Я приєднуюсь до твоїх побажань, і також бажаю всій країні, щоб вони здійснились якнайшвидше! Героям Слава!!!
Same to you!
19.07.2014 09:15
Анатолій Гриценко
Слава! Якого чорта?! Що ви суки накоїли? Як можна було викласти це відео за добу до проведення операції???!!! Ти розумієш, що «рашисти» його вже передали на
експертизу, та запросили з Ютюба дату першого завантаження???
Slava! What the hell ?! What are you *****es done? How anyone could upload this video a day before the operation ??? [MH-17 provocation] !!! You know perfectly well
that russians employed experts, and requested from youtube date of the first upload
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
This is so fake that makes more damage than not. Are you sure you have half the brains needed to classify information?
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Hannibal Barca wrote:This is so fake that makes more damage than not. Are you sure you have half the brains needed to classify information?
Are you sure you're having any brains at all??
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Hannibal Barca wrote:This is so fake that makes more damage than not. Are you sure you have half the brains needed to classify information?
Keep. Voting negative then
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
This is chosen as the flag of nova Russia ,as per 13th august
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
After your recommendation I ll do
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
arpakola wrote:
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/item/%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BA%CE%AC%CE%BB%CF%85%CF%88%CE%B7-%CF%83%CE%BF%CE%BA-%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%82-%CF%83%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%BB%CE%AF%CE%B5%CF%82-%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%8E%CE%BD-%CE%B1%CE%BE%CE%B9%CF%89%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%8D%CF%87%CF%89%CE%BD-%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CF%84%CE%BF-%CF%80%CF%89%CF%82-%CF%84%CE%BF-su-25-%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85-%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%AD%CE%B2%CE%BF%CF%85
. the following are dialogues captured from radio of two persons
the one is high ranking of Kolomoisky operations and the other of Valery Geletey.
they refer to dead or wounded organ trading and on the reason why the su had to use aa missiles apart the gun fire..
.
28.06.2014 20:35
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Набери меня, я тебе не дозваниваюсь, ты вне зоны. Что там решилось?
Call me, I can’t reach you, always out of coverage zone. What was the final decision?
И кстати, что с ранеными? Вас разместили?
By the way, what is going on with wounded? everything O’k? [Referring to the wounded Ukrainian soldiers chosen for disassembly for organs to be sold on the black
market]
28.06.2014 20:39
Юрій Береза
Раненых разместили, все нормально. Только главврачу пришлось немного мозги прочистить) провели политбеседу, так сказать, применили меры))
The wounded were placed, everything is fine. Only the head physician give us hard time, had to do little “brain washing”, so to speak, “applied measures”))
[Apparently one of the doctors refused to participate in organ removal operations. Please note two smily faces at the end of the sentence]
28.06.2014 20:40
Юрій Береза
Сегодня все не смогу – надо ребят отправить. Завтра утром. Подойдет?
Wouldn’t be able to do everything today – need to send boys out. Tomorrow morning? If its O’k with you.
28.06.2014 20:40
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Да, нормально. А насчет врача не слышал еще!
Sure, acceptable. I haven’t heard about doctor yet!
28.06.2014 20:41
Юрій Береза
Да теперь все ок.
Everything is fine now [Doctor was killed]
28.06.2014 20:41
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Я не сомневаюсь
I never doubted you.
17.07.2014 21:22
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
Ладно, фиг с ним. Что? И как?
Screw it. What and How [it went]?
17.07.2014 21:23
Юрій Береза
землей – прямым – воздухом
Ground [SAM] – direct [referring to cannon] – air [air to air missile]
17.07.2014 21:24
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
А воздухом какого хера???
Why air in the fracking world? [Air to air missile]
17.07.2014 21:26
Юрій Береза
Передали, что не смог долго удерживаться там, типа высоко. Сделал один прямым. Не проканало. Тогда пришлось воздухом.
[Pilot] reported that he could not keep plane so high for a long time. Made one straight [cannon salvo]. Didn’t worked. Then had to use air to air [missile].
17.07.2014 21:27
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
А почему сначала харьковских подняли?
Why Kharkov was involved? [Air defense military command center]
17.07.2014 21:30
Юрій Береза
Они сказали, что сначала команда пришла из Киева на харьковский пульт, а когда он начал разворачиваться, тогда уже остальных подключили.
They said that the first orders came from Kiev to Kharkov control [Air defense military command center] , only when they went on defcon others begun to follow.
17.07.2014 21:32
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
ясно, ну расскажешь еще потом подробнее. Ты без задержек?
got it, well later on you’ll provide me all details [in personal conversation] Any delays?
17.07.2014 21:34
Юрій Береза
Да, скоро на месте буду. Только закончил с журналистами.
Absolutely, soon well be there, Just finished with journalists.
01.01.2014 22:32
Svyatoslav Oliynyk
З Новим Роком, Анатолій Степанович! Бажаю вам, бажаю всій країні, бажаю всім нам, щоб в Новому Році ця скотина в короні як найшвидше була скинута зі свого трону волею
усього народу! Бажаю в новому році здобути нову, сильну та прекрасну країну! Ще раз з Новим Роком! Слава Україні!
Happy New Year, Anatoly Stepanovich! I wish you, the whole country, and all of us in upcoming New Year that beast [ex. president Yanukovich] will be deposed as soon
as possible. I wish for a new, strong and beautiful country! Once again, Happy New Year! Glory to Ukraine!
03.01.2014 19:20
Анатолій Гриценко
З Новим Роком, Слава! Тобі також всього найкращого у наступному році!
Happy New Year, Slava! Same to you, all the best wishes!
03.01.2014 19:21
Анатолій Гриценко
Я приєднуюсь до твоїх побажань, і також бажаю всій країні, щоб вони здійснились якнайшвидше! Героям Слава!!!
Same to you!
19.07.2014 09:15
Анатолій Гриценко
Слава! Якого чорта?! Що ви суки накоїли? Як можна було викласти це відео за добу до проведення операції???!!! Ти розумієш, що «рашисти» його вже передали на
експертизу, та запросили з Ютюба дату першого завантаження???
Slava! What the hell ?! What are you *****es done? How anyone could upload this video a day before the operation ??? [MH-17 provocation] !!! You know perfectly well
that russians employed experts, and requested from youtube date of the first upload
Hard to ubderstand but this is supposed talk between two Ukrainians over downing of Mh-17? I can barely understand it.
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Well this is a Greek pro Russian defense site that is a total joke.
Half the time speaks about ghosts and aliens and how Greeks created the universe.
Terrible untrustworthy and low level suitable only for trolls.
It is very popular among Greeks and does a superb propaganda job but deserve hardly to be called a news site is just a joke.
Edit: I almost forgot the endless prophecies that never fulfilled and that EVERY SINGLE DAY the main article is that nuclear Armageddon starts TODAY
Half the time speaks about ghosts and aliens and how Greeks created the universe.
Terrible untrustworthy and low level suitable only for trolls.
It is very popular among Greeks and does a superb propaganda job but deserve hardly to be called a news site is just a joke.
Edit: I almost forgot the endless prophecies that never fulfilled and that EVERY SINGLE DAY the main article is that nuclear Armageddon starts TODAY
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Is clear te MH-17 was shotdown by Ukraine.. but will not matter.. NATO will give political support to kiev and invent anything. And here at this forums brainless psaki trols will continue saying "my government screw it and rebels did it" even if you show all the evidence of the world.. Honesty is the first thing is killed whenever people seek to push their agendas over the truth.
And in other news is told that Strelkov have been moved from his position of defense minister..?
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/745065
if that is true ,then thats a very Stupid decision from Donetsk politicians.. in the middle of war is completely stupid for politicians to start changing positions.. it creates doubts and mistrust. And not the unity they need to win the conflict.
And in other news is told that Strelkov have been moved from his position of defense minister..?
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/745065
if that is true ,then thats a very Stupid decision from Donetsk politicians.. in the middle of war is completely stupid for politicians to start changing positions.. it creates doubts and mistrust. And not the unity they need to win the conflict.
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
It is highly probable that he is injured after all. That's why I didn't say anything yesterday. Let us wait and see.
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Hannibal Barca wrote:Well this is a Greek pro Russian defense site that is a total joke.
Half the time speaks about ghosts and aliens and how Greeks created the universe.
Terrible untrustworthy and low level suitable only for trolls.
It is very popular among Greeks and does a superb propaganda job but deserve hardly to be called a news site is just a joke.
Edit: I almost forgot the endless prophecies that never fulfilled and that EVERY SINGLE DAY the main article is that nuclear Armageddon starts TODAY
seems u didnt had a good day today.
The information is there .. accept or opose with arguments please .. not with bad character
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
The "dialogue" is laughable. Totally unnatural discussion. They jump artificially from topic to topic, it is as amateurish as the videos on youtube where separatists allegedly confess that they threw the plane. Made up, I bet from a journalist desperate for some publicity.
Take two original ones to see how they sound like boy:
PS I always have a bad day when confronted with stupidity
Take two original ones to see how they sound like boy:
PS I always have a bad day when confronted with stupidity
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
You are incorect hannibal about Estonian coversation with the EU bitch. The estonian minister Confirmed
the conversation on the phone.. he even told that is a tragedy.... Those leaks are 100% correct. And it was Russian government high ranked staff that posted it first.
The conversations of the Rebels supposedly confessing the malasyan plane ,is totally setup however.. that was released by the Ukraine Intelligence agency as "proof" the rebels did it.. The videos have 2 things whenever they are uploaded in youtube.. one is the Uploading time.. when you upload the video to youtube servers and another is
the time the video was encoded. The video uploaded by Kiev junta SBU service to youtube ,when checked with third party software to detect when was encoded ,shows that it was encoded a day earlier that the accident takes
place.
This is HUGE . Is like the smoking Gun..
In any court ,if its proven without a doubt and confirmed that the video was encoded a DAY EARLIER the plane crash ,it will proof Beyond doubt kiev KNEW that a plane will be shotdown and that they were preparing a fake video before hand to frame the rebels. and that evidence will be more than enough to accuse the Poroshenko government of planning the murder of 300 passengers in a civilian plane.
This remember me the video of the chemical weapons attack in Syria.. it was uploaded 30 minutes after the chemical attack.. but the video shows many dozens of people apparently killed with hands tied and children near ,with no women adults anywhere.. as if the children had no mothers or the chemicals to not affect mothers but only male adults. Total setup.. and it was a catholic nun who discovered that. LOL She told and rightly so.. that 30 minutes is not enough time to organize so many bodies.. on top that for filming that people needs to enter a zone where a chemical attack happened ,so they also could die. but apparently the authors of the video where immune to Sarin gas. LOL
the conversation on the phone.. he even told that is a tragedy.... Those leaks are 100% correct. And it was Russian government high ranked staff that posted it first.
The conversations of the Rebels supposedly confessing the malasyan plane ,is totally setup however.. that was released by the Ukraine Intelligence agency as "proof" the rebels did it.. The videos have 2 things whenever they are uploaded in youtube.. one is the Uploading time.. when you upload the video to youtube servers and another is
the time the video was encoded. The video uploaded by Kiev junta SBU service to youtube ,when checked with third party software to detect when was encoded ,shows that it was encoded a day earlier that the accident takes
place.
This is HUGE . Is like the smoking Gun..
In any court ,if its proven without a doubt and confirmed that the video was encoded a DAY EARLIER the plane crash ,it will proof Beyond doubt kiev KNEW that a plane will be shotdown and that they were preparing a fake video before hand to frame the rebels. and that evidence will be more than enough to accuse the Poroshenko government of planning the murder of 300 passengers in a civilian plane.
This remember me the video of the chemical weapons attack in Syria.. it was uploaded 30 minutes after the chemical attack.. but the video shows many dozens of people apparently killed with hands tied and children near ,with no women adults anywhere.. as if the children had no mothers or the chemicals to not affect mothers but only male adults. Total setup.. and it was a catholic nun who discovered that. LOL She told and rightly so.. that 30 minutes is not enough time to organize so many bodies.. on top that for filming that people needs to enter a zone where a chemical attack happened ,so they also could die. but apparently the authors of the video where immune to Sarin gas. LOL
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Yes and that's what I said. Read again!
and I don;t want to accuse my enemy for something hasn't done or with lies I believe in chivalry. Truth is we have no proof that Kiev conducts organ trafficking.
and I don;t want to accuse my enemy for something hasn't done or with lies I believe in chivalry. Truth is we have no proof that Kiev conducts organ trafficking.
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
THe information released is that the Kiev army trapped in the Airport ,retaliated with his artillery to civilians
centers when the self defense forces began to bomb their place. here is evidence of Kiev artillery targeting
plane civilians zones that the militia have no positions.
But also in other places too, the kiev criminals have dramatically increased their attacks on civilians centers ,simply to use terror and a weapon and force the militia to lower their weapons.
This is what i think of the people that accuse Russia of doing "something wrong in Ukraine".
They simply dig their head on the sand and refuse to see the reality that Ukraine is under control of a criminal Government and that its actions are fully driven by the the west . And that after they finish with eastern ukraine they will continue with Russia. Taking Crimea absolutely made no difference in the hostilities against Russia by kiev.. they were hostile long before that..Odessa massacre was just an example . Russia taking Crimea only made things more difficult ,for the west.. to threaten Russia Nation security.
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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Ukropy army get some losses near russian boarder.
onwiththewar- Posts : 57
Points : 57
Join date : 2014-07-18
- Post n°574
Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
Hannibal Barca wrote:Strelkov allegedly got injured.
Strelkov resigned.
http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3724-igor-strelkov-otstavka-kommentariy-politologa-dmitriya-dzygovbrodskogo.html
http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_11986
Can anyone explain what happened?
Morpheus Eberhardt- Posts : 1925
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Join date : 2013-05-20
- Post n°575
Situation in Novorossiya
Situation in Novorossiya, on 14/08/14
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