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Auxilliary vessels, Special-purpose and minor naval ships
xeno- Posts : 268
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xeno Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:21 am
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Isos Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:51 pm
hoom- Posts : 2352
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hoom Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:37 pm
2nd Project 11982 hydrographic ship Ladoga has gone into service https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B018/
1st is in BSF, I believe has been recently involved in recovering the Il-20 wreckage off Syria
1st is in BSF, I believe has been recently involved in recovering the Il-20 wreckage off Syria
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franco- Posts : 7032
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- Post n°229
Re: Auxilliary vessels, Special-purpose and minor naval ships
franco Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:35 am
Navy received last 2 Raptors (03160) of the second order. That makes 14 in service. Apparently according to the article there is a third order for another 10 units. In addition there are a couple of the similar but slightly smaller 02510 plus an order for 6 of the half size 02800, at least 2 of which have been delivered. These craft are used for Naval base patrol and protection along with the 138 tonne Grachonok (21980) anti-saboteur gun boat. Of these 16 out of an order of 22 have been delivered.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3376609.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3376609.html
hoom- Posts : 2352
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hoom Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:01 am
2* project 23131 tankers laid down at Kerch in 2014 are 'missing' https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B21/
Official sources refuse to comment.
Staff have said 'no work is being done on such project'.
The obvious cause is corruption but I think it can also be explained otherwise.
Since 2014 Zaliv has got a bunch of other jobs (3*22800, the two cable layers, 2*22160 & more, also apparently has been doing a bunch of building bits of the CrimeaRiver Bridge) -> quite possible the ships didn't advance far before being pushed aside (maybe even scrapped) to work on higher priority stuff.
Also with the cable layers delayed due to need for import substitution on key parts, the drydock is occupied.
On the other hand if its just that it shouldn't be too hard to get an official statement along those lines...
Official sources refuse to comment.
Staff have said 'no work is being done on such project'.
The obvious cause is corruption but I think it can also be explained otherwise.
Since 2014 Zaliv has got a bunch of other jobs (3*22800, the two cable layers, 2*22160 & more, also apparently has been doing a bunch of building bits of the Crimea
Also with the cable layers delayed due to need for import substitution on key parts, the drydock is occupied.
On the other hand if its just that it shouldn't be too hard to get an official statement along those lines...
PapaDragon- Posts : 13456
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- Post n°231
Re: Auxilliary vessels, Special-purpose and minor naval ships
PapaDragon Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:05 pm
hoom wrote:2* project 23131 tankers laid down at Kerch in 2014 are 'missing' https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B21/
Official sources refuse to comment.
Staff have said 'no work is being done on such project'.
The obvious cause is corruption but I think it can also be explained otherwise.
Since 2014 Zaliv has got a bunch of other jobs (3*22800, the two cable layers, 2*22160 & more, also apparently has been doing a bunch of building bits of the CrimeaRiverBridge) -> quite possible the ships didn't advance far before being pushed aside (maybe even scrapped) to work on higher priority stuff.
Also with the cable layers delayed due to need for import substitution on key parts, the drydock is occupied.
On the other hand if its just that it shouldn't be too hard to get an official statement along those lines...
Or more likely that locals assumed that it will be business as usual while someone at the mainland thought that whole Crimea thing will be rolled back and decided to make some quick bucks
Never underestimate stupidity of 60s-70s Soviet born generation
This explanation reeks of habits developed in modern day Ukraine, time to get some names and start inserting bayonets into happy holes as an example for locals who still harbor those habits
George1- Posts : 18497
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George1 Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:33 pm
Beautiful photo! Yuriy Ivanov-class intelligence ship Ivan Khurs (Commissioned in 2018) and the 462 meters tall Lakhta center.
George1- Posts : 18497
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George1 Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:52 pm
The icebreaker of project 21180М was laid for Russian Navy
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3453329.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3453329.html
George1- Posts : 18497
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George1 Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:41 pm
The communication boat KSV-2168 of the modified project 1388N3 was introduced into the Baltic Fleet
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3457911.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3457911.html
hoom- Posts : 2352
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hoom Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:47 am
Project 20183 Akademik Alexandrov started tests https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3459972.html
Quite the odd duck but also pretty fascinating in its way.
Quite the odd duck but also pretty fascinating in its way.
miroslav- Posts : 110
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miroslav Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:22 pm
hoom wrote:Project 20183 Akademik Alexandrov started tests https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3459972.html
Quite the odd duck but also pretty fascinating in its way.
Ship like these have a very futuristic look about them, I certainly like it. I guess its because of all the machinery that they carry on board and the color that they paint them with.
Anybody noticed that this ship is ONLY 3 meters longer than the Project 22160 (Bykov class) patrol ship. And it only has a 76 mm gun.
I guess its because of all the other destroyers and cruisers that they have patrolling the high seas, its not like they need another frigate size ship armed with AD weapons for proper escorting duties, pirates and illegal fishers are they main problem these days.
Hole- Posts : 11099
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- Post n°237
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Hole Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:18 pm
Possible carrier for Poseidon and UUV´s.
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PapaDragon Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:36 pm
Hole wrote:Possible carrier for Poseidon and UUV´s.
Not for Poseidon
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Hole Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:40 pm
Why not? It has a cargo hold and huge cranes. The ship could easily travel to the southern Indian Ocean and "sink" a few Poseidons.
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PapaDragon Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:04 pm
Hole wrote:Why not? It has a cargo hold and huge cranes. The ship could easily travel to the southern Indian Ocean and "sink" a few Poseidons.
Why bother?
Poseidon has no range limit. They can just launch from coastline if they want to. Thousands of miles of coastline to choose from.
Hole- Posts : 11099
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Hole Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:38 pm
Sure, but except the high north there are a lot of choke points around the russian coasts. That´s why they are building subs as carriers. But some ships (Kovalew, Alexandrov, Elbrus) could also be used, just like any freighter with cranes. Like this one:
You could fit quite a few Poseidons in there. And it would be a nightmare for the west to keep every "civilian" russian ship in sight.
You could fit quite a few Poseidons in there. And it would be a nightmare for the west to keep every "civilian" russian ship in sight.
GarryB- Posts : 40443
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- Post n°242
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GarryB Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:25 am
You could fit quite a few Poseidons in there. And it would be a nightmare for the west to keep every "civilian" russian ship in sight.
Actually I would think a roll on roll off type vessel would be much better suited to the role of carrying and releasing Poseidons... and during their down time they could be used for other roles....
Hole- Posts : 11099
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Hole Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:52 am
First 03182 launched.
miroslav- Posts : 110
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miroslav Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:03 pm
Hole wrote:First 03182 launched.
This is supposed to be the 2nd ship of the project laid down (russian-ships.info), chronologically, that is. I guess that the Volga shipyard in Nizhniy Novgorod is simply faster or less under pressure by other projects.
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PapaDragon Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:18 pm
Upgraded Molonya-class (Project 12418) under construction in Vyborg
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PapaDragon Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:45 pm
Akademik Aleksandrov on trials:
George1- Posts : 18497
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George1 Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:45 am
Nine new hydrographic vessels to be built for Russian Navy by 2021
The Navy will get the first of them in 2019
MOSCOW, January 2. /TASS/. Two small Project 19910 vessels, two large Project 23040G hydrographic boats, two newest large Project 19920 hydrographic boats and three large Project 23370G large hydrographic boats will be built for the Russian Navy before 2021, the Russian Defense Ministry’s press service said on Wednesday.
"The construction of two small Project 19910 hydrographic vessels is currently underway," the ministry said, adding that they would become part of the Russian Navy in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
In addition, the Nizhegorodsky Teplokhod shipyard is working on two large Project 23040G hydrographic boats. The shipyard earlier completed the construction of two similar vessels for the Baltic Fleet. The Navy will get the new ships in 2019.
Meanwhile, two large Project 19920 hydrographic boats for the Northern and Pacific Fleets are now under construction. It is also planned to build three large Project 23370G hydrographic boats by 2021, the Defense Ministry said.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1038804
The Navy will get the first of them in 2019
MOSCOW, January 2. /TASS/. Two small Project 19910 vessels, two large Project 23040G hydrographic boats, two newest large Project 19920 hydrographic boats and three large Project 23370G large hydrographic boats will be built for the Russian Navy before 2021, the Russian Defense Ministry’s press service said on Wednesday.
"The construction of two small Project 19910 hydrographic vessels is currently underway," the ministry said, adding that they would become part of the Russian Navy in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
In addition, the Nizhegorodsky Teplokhod shipyard is working on two large Project 23040G hydrographic boats. The shipyard earlier completed the construction of two similar vessels for the Baltic Fleet. The Navy will get the new ships in 2019.
Meanwhile, two large Project 19920 hydrographic boats for the Northern and Pacific Fleets are now under construction. It is also planned to build three large Project 23370G hydrographic boats by 2021, the Defense Ministry said.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1038804
hoom- Posts : 2352
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hoom Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:13 am
Apparently there is an effort to try to standardise several Auxiliary types into a modular format using the same basic hull, different superstructures https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%9E%D1%81%D0%BA3/
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Hole Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:48 pm
What do we have here?
From left to right:
- container ship/freighter
- fleet oiler/replenishment ship
- oceanographic survey or submarine rescue ship?
- heavy-lift ship
Seems to be an expansion of the Zvezdotchka/Akademik Kovalev line.
From left to right:
- container ship/freighter
- fleet oiler/replenishment ship
- oceanographic survey or submarine rescue ship?
- heavy-lift ship
Seems to be an expansion of the Zvezdotchka/Akademik Kovalev line.
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Isos Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:58 pm
Those helipads are perfect for the modular Tor that was tested on Grigorovitch.
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