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Well once again you are talking nonsense.
I presume You know better deal about things than me ?
And why is that? Because Lithuanian emigrants like you, along with Indians and Fillipinos have benefited quite nicely from the bizarre brand of globalism.
Cry me a river. At least I'm working and not claiming asylum money. UK is eager to dish money left and right and people feel no shame taking them. My input generates income for British company. Money I've spend cycles through UK market. No, I don't buy milk from China or toilet paper from Pakistan. I use local services and I prefer local products as British market probably has best quality food products I've ever seen. Even if Mark & Spencer is poor's man luxury retailer, standards are way above where I am from and with a fraction of price. UK didn't have to provide me with education or skills, I came here with all knowledge I need and good working ethics and that I can offer and that is it. As far as I am concerned, Britain is lucky to have me and especially my wife as she is big spender. My country is paying it for not being able to create us same conditions and loosing good share of money.
And finally, its nothing to do with "sorting lives out first".
Strange thing that is very popular excuse for married people who still don't go for baby. Academic people for example.
Having kids can be less than a year out for mothers, and no time whatsoever for fathers.
You must be kidding, right? It's not only about popping baby on dirty concrete floor somewhere in Ukraine's hospital. It takes a bit longer to RAISE a child. Leaving all responsibilities to child's mother is not really smart idea too. Very eastern European way to be honest :/
The fact is, they see that the sums dont add up for having families. Do some research.Unemployed/struggling 1st world males arent gonna choose to have kids in large numbers. Suggesting otherwise is ridiculous. Do some research.
Are you really Brit cause you speak utterly rubbish. HERE IT'S MORE PROFITABLE TO BREED LIKE RABBIT. Should I give You links to gov sites? Council house, tax returns, income support, housing benefits, allowances.. Not to mention how much you get if You are single parent.. Half of the guys in my gym are on benefits, have children and still sit around in gym all day not looking for work or education
And no-one has kids while at college, so your other claim is also irrelevant.. and wrong.
Not sure if You are serious, college time means loads of action in Dorms. Even our geeks in IT groups got burned. Same here, Liverpool turns into big whorehouse, no need to go for Thailand.
Finally there's an essential requirement for reproduction. Otherwise u get a greying population and no workers to keep the country afloat. But hey.. dont let facts get in the way of your sales pitch...
Greying population could be doing all FINE in some countries. It depends if their economy relies on big labour force. Breeding like Chinese probably wouldn't best thing in Russia, cause typical Chinese peasant has no better life conditions than homeless alcoholic bomzh in Rubliovka.
Situation in Russia is still far way from being bad like in Norway. Russia imports low skilled, low paid, lazy-ass gastarbaiters just because they are cheaper than tools they wield. They are usually backwards people without no education and there are no respect towards them, I think they are called churki, ruberoidi and etc. I'm not racist but I got that general feeling while staying in Pushchino from academic people!