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Can some one tell me what IR reduction feature has been incorporated in 117 Engine , Nozzle and over all IR reduction feature of PAK-FA ?
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PAK-FA, T-50: News #3
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Austin wrote:Can some one tell me what IR reduction feature has been incorporated in 117 Engine , Nozzle and over all IR reduction feature of PAK-FA ?
Unfortunately, no information about it.. im also looking at it now.
Nonetheless my best bet the nozzle, if Sukhoi decided to retain axissymmetric nozzle may have similar treatment as US's LOAN.
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Some new weaponry.
Photos taken from bmpd
Photos taken from bmpd
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Voronezh radar are operating in L and Meter band they may not be able to detect a B-2 or B-3 and more ever its orientiation is towards watching BM launches.
But the container radar which is OTH radar , operating between 10m to 100 m wave length most certainly can detect B-2/B-3 or PAK-DA types
BTW Gylph welcome to RDF , I saw some of your post in Keypubs and its good to have you here as you are very well informed and we all can learn and share
The urgent shift of B-2s flight profile to low level penetration due to S-300 proliferation alone, speak volumes to the real life figures of the rcs reduction in B-2s airframe.
VHF/UHF radar only exacerbate the problem.
Sure you know of Voronezh cruise missile tracking capability? Soon to be space spaced platform as well.
Thank you for yours welcome.
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Why two cruise missile one pointed nose and one boxy nose , whats the difference ? Also what that chart in Russian says ?
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Austin wrote:Why two cruise missile one pointed nose and one boxy nose , whats the difference ? Also what that chart in Russian says ?
One are tactical cruise missile with low rcs shaping, the other in mine opinion is a very interesting, seen before munition. Anyone else spot it?
The chart is the specifications for the X-59MK2, would you like mine short summary or mine long translation?
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Glyph wrote:Austin wrote:Why two cruise missile one pointed nose and one boxy nose , whats the difference ? Also what that chart in Russian says ?
One are tactical cruise missile with low rcs shaping, the other in mine opinion is a very interesting, seen before munition. Anyone else spot it?
The chart is the specifications for the X-59MK2, would you like mine short summary or mine long translation?
Short summary should be good.
I think the pointed nose missile is Air Launched Club
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Well the IR seeker mated to ARM is interesting, makes defensive measures more difficult to succeed,
perhaps specifically allowing the ARM to lock onto mobile radar/launcher complexes that have already "scooted" from initial position?
perhaps specifically allowing the ARM to lock onto mobile radar/launcher complexes that have already "scooted" from initial position?
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What are to 2 stripes on the back of the body of the t50? I never saw those before. Thanks for the reply.
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They have been there for many years already. These are structural reinforcements.EKS wrote:What are to 2 stripes on the back of the body of the t50? I never saw those before. Thanks for the reply.
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Svyatoslavich wrote:They have been there for many years already. These are structural reinforcements.EKS wrote:What are to 2 stripes on the back of the body of the t50? I never saw those before. Thanks for the reply.
Thanks! I first thought that it maby was the so called smartskin sensor. I guess those reinforcements are patches and Will be moved under the skin in the next prototype. We will see. I red a couple of weeks ago that the t50-6-2 would have it's first flight on 22 August. Any news on this?
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I imagine that "second series" prototypes don't have these external reinforcements.EKS wrote:Svyatoslavich wrote:They have been there for many years already. These are structural reinforcements.EKS wrote:What are to 2 stripes on the back of the body of the t50? I never saw those before. Thanks for the reply.
Thanks! I first thought that it maby was the so called smartskin sensor. I guess those reinforcements are patches and Will be moved under the skin in the next prototype. We will see. I red a couple of weeks ago that the t50-6-2 would have it's first flight on 22 August. Any news on this?
I am also still waiting for news on other prototypes. Supposedly T-50-5R should have restarted flying.
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T-50-4 and -5 has those reinforcement strips in particular, the other frames do not but have a lot of other reinforcements, so does -4 and -5 for that matter. T-50-5R hasnt flown yet.
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Any idea on what may have happened to delay its first flight?Berkut wrote:T-50-5R hasnt flown yet.
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Wondering the same thing honestly, or even if it is a delay... Any information about how accurate the schedule is, Berkut?Svyatoslavich wrote:Any idea on what may have happened to delay its first flight?Berkut wrote:T-50-5R hasnt flown yet.
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Corporation "Tactical Missiles" presented at the MAKS-2015 missile and bomb the product of a new generation - CEO
08/26/2015 15:32:16
Zhukovsky (Moscow region). August 26th. Interfax-AVN - Corporation "Tactical Missiles" (Tactical Missiles Corporation) has developed on the basis of a multi-purpose aircraft guided missiles X38 family of products bombing, told journalists on Wednesday KTRV CEO Boris Obnosov.
"On the basis of X38 developed missile and bomb the product" Thunder-A1 "and" A2 Thunder "- said B.Obnosov.
He noted that the "Thunder-A1" - a guided missile with a powerful warhead, a total weight of 520 kg.
"Thunder-2" - is, in fact, planning to bomb warhead of almost 400 kg. And the TNT equivalent of its significantly higher, "- said the CEO.
He noted that these developments first presented at the MAKS-2015. Other promising developments are under way KTRV he called guided missiles X-58USHK. "She is in the final stages of development and is designed for fifth-generation aircraft," - said B.Obnosov.
He noted that the missile provides vnutrifyuzelyazhnyh accommodation. Its average speed is greater than about 3.5 times the speed of sound. The missile has a small size and high accuracy of hitting the target. "She has a huge export potential," - said B.Obnosov.
He noted that in the final stages of development is also Kh-59MK2.
"There is a very good missile warhead - about 300 kg and a good range - 300 km," - said B.Obnosov.
Among the other innovations presented at the MAKS-2015, he called the corrected air bombs KAB-500S-E with satellite guidance equipment and high-explosive warhead. "She goes to the final state tests, which we expect to be completed this year," - said B.Obnosov.
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I still dont get it what is the difference between Thunder-1 and 2 , They both seem similar one is boxy and other is club variant ? Can they be carried internally ?
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Is this the new 20 T UCAV they are developing ?
MAKS: Is Russia developing an F-35-hunting UAV?
MAKS: Is Russia developing an F-35-hunting UAV?
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Well, a year ago it was supposed to "fly within months". Before summer there were rumors that it is "weeks ago from flying". Then according to the leaker (there is no reason to doubt his information) in early july it was supposed to arrive at Zhuk by 31'th July and 6-2 in zhuk in September. Then in late July 5R was supposed to fly before end of August and that still hasnt happened and the plan for 6-2 is that it wont fly til late November...
And there were supposed to have been deliveries of 4 frames (5R+3 new) this year and we will be lucky if two of those happen. Probably just 5R this year. So go figure. Plans are fluid and change all the time and problems and delays are always happening..
And there were supposed to have been deliveries of 4 frames (5R+3 new) this year and we will be lucky if two of those happen. Probably just 5R this year. So go figure. Plans are fluid and change all the time and problems and delays are always happening..
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Austin wrote:I still dont get it what is the difference between Thunder-1 and 2 , They both seem similar one is boxy and other is club variant ? Can they be carried internally ?
We have only seen Grom-1 (thunder-1). Kh-59MK2 is neither Grom-1 or Grom-2.
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Berkut wrote:Well, a year ago it was supposed to "fly within months". Before summer there were rumors that it is "weeks ago from flying". Then according to the leaker (there is no reason to doubt his information) in early july it was supposed to arrive at Zhuk by 31'th July and 6-2 in zhuk in September. Then in late July 5R was supposed to fly before end of August and that still hasnt happened and the plan for 6-2 is that it wont fly til late November...
And there were supposed to have been deliveries of 4 frames (5R+3 new) this year and we will be lucky if two of those happen. Probably just 5R this year. So go figure. Plans are fluid and change all the time and problems and delays are always happening..
Do you happen to know the cause of the delays?
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Austin wrote:Is this the new 20 T UCAV they are developing ?
MAKS: Is Russia developing an F-35-hunting UAV?
Dude, a pro tip: when you find scoop like this, always post a pic!
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This will be a very interesting development if it's successful. Can't wait to see it flying.
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Austin wrote:I still dont get it what is the difference between Thunder-1 and 2 , They both seem similar one is boxy and other is club variant ? Can they be carried internally ?
Grom-1 appears to be a guided missile, Grom-2 is a gliding bomb; it has no engine, but the aerodynamic form of a missile (the Kh-38s in fact) so it can travel a little and manuever onto the target with its ailerons.
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