PAK-FA, T-50: News #3

Vann7 wrote:Americans aparently use cockpit made in Gold to make the cockpit more
stealthy. So if there is any truth in any of this? does Pak-fa needs a special
cockpit/glass to evade radar signals like F-22 have?

GarryB wrote:Just the cockpit canopy and it is very thin layer of gold so you can still see through it.

It would only be a few dollars worth of gold but radar waves are absorbed and converted to heat by the gold.

Without this layer radar waves would pass straight through the canopy and reflect off all the cornered surfaces inside and create a large radar return.

Even the F-16 had this to prevent an enormous RCS from some angles.

Amusing that it is a case of gold plating being relative cheap and worth the effort for very practical performance reasons...  

Isos wrote:Nice pics.
The nose design is so good without the antenna in front of it which can be seen on other pics.

BTW what is that antenna ? On the Pak Fa it's for tests but I've seen it on some other migs which are in service.

Isos wrote:

Svyatoslavich wrote:

Isos wrote:Nice pics.
The nose design is so good without the antenna in front of it which can be seen on other pics.

BTW what is that antenna ? On the Pak Fa it's for tests but I've seen it on some other migs which are in service.

What antenna do you mean? Are you referring to the big pitot tubes that T-50-1 and -2 originally had in the radome?

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This one. It's on the migs too.

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

nemrod wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-graphic-shows-firepower-russias-012300270.html

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while  stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

nemrod wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-graphic-shows-firepower-russias-012300270.html

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while  stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

kvs wrote:

nemrod wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-graphic-shows-firepower-russias-012300270.html

Business Insider By Jeremy Bender
February 16, 2016 8:23 PM

As the US continues to push ahead with the development of its fifth-generation fighter the F-35, Russia has been hammering away at its own next-generation aircraft.

The PAK FA, also known as the T-50, is Russia's answer to America's F-35 and China's J-20. Moscow envisions their fighter to carry out long-range strikes, intelligently target ground targets, and destroy enemy aircraft all the while  stealth.

To accomplish those goals, the PAK FA will come armed with an extensive set of armaments. Below is an infographic by Russia-based designer Anton Egorov depicting the PAK FA's weapons:

Any specifications for the PAK FA are currently open to a number of disclaimers. Firstly, there is no guarantee that what Moscow is announcing for the aircraft are accurate as the plane will likely not be ready for combat until somewhere between 2018 and 2020.

Secondly, like the F-35, the PAK FA is undergoing its own range of developmental problems that could influence the viability of the aircraft and the weapons that it could carry. For example, some of the problems the aircraft is currently facing are engine performance problems in addition to the airframe having a larger radar cross-section than planned.

Currently, Russia is planning on purchasing 12 PAK FA down from an initial order of 52 due to problems with the plane, rising cost, and problems facing Russia's economy.

Fantasy fiction from the waste of space western MSM.  Engine problems?  LOL.  The current engine delivers quite nicely and the
planned and on schedule final version will deliver even more.   As for the radar cross-section, there is no f*cking way this reporter
or any of his hypothetical sources would know if such an issue even existed.  

The T-50 has the best side profile by far.   It does not have the stupid billboard sized rudders of the F-22 and the brick shape of the
F-35.  Anyone with a functional brain and eyeballs and see this.   And the scatter of EM radiation is all about the cross section.
Slanted or not.

magnumcromagnon wrote:Don't know why people still cite Yahoo news.

Berkut wrote:

GarryB wrote:What do you mean?

I see paint being used to disguise the size and outline of the aircraft... what are you seeing?