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Flagship Victory wrote:Maidan says will give the captured Russian special forces medical aid.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/sbu-detained-russian-soldiers-are-terrorists-but-will-be-given-legal-medical-aid-389328.html
kvs wrote:Vann7 wrote:
Colonel-General Igor Sergun, Head of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia. recently dropped another bomb..
http://thesaker.is/the-head-of-the-gru-accuses-us-and-allies-of-creating-the-transnational-islamist-terrorist-network/
Basically he accuse Americans and its allies of providing military and training assistance..
but what is new is the level of organization and money they have.. According to him..
the Jihadist terrorist.. generate up to 500 millions a year selling drugs.. and that US facilitate..
their negotiations.. he also spoke of training terrorist camps.. in Afganistan and Pakistan.
Weather this is done with the knowledge of their governments is a another question..
http://thesaker.is/the-head-of-the-gru-accuses-us-and-allies-of-creating-the-transnational-islamist-terrorist-network/
Not a surprise. The drug trade in Afghanistan exploded after the US and its minions invaded after 9/11.
I can see the dope dealer infestation of the west with my own eyes. That is why when I hear about Russians
and their vodka problem, I can see pathetic propaganda. What about NATO citizens and their dope problem?
They need to portray themselves as benevolent and caring for providing medical care to those wounded untermensch to score some additional PR points among MSM, ONGs and foreign governments for doing what they're supposed to do.gregoire wrote:Which means that they do not actually want a war with Russia, just piss them of a hell of a lot. Or someone intervened and the idiots running the show got a sniff of reality.
It's no joke unfortunately. This has been going through the whole war. The Kiev junta kills and tortures their prisoners while the NAF provides their prisoners medical treatment and release them. It may be noble, but very foolish. This is a war.Flagship Victory wrote:Is this a joke or what? Commander of 93rd brigade released as a gesture of good will without exchanging him for the 2 captured ex Russian special forces. This scum is a Right Sector fascist and lord knows how many civilians he massacred. Hopefully it's not Putin's doing.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainian-commander-freed-from-custody-of-donetsk-rebels-389307.html
Cahaba wrote:kvs wrote:Vann7 wrote:
Colonel-General Igor Sergun, Head of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia. recently dropped another bomb..
http://thesaker.is/the-head-of-the-gru-accuses-us-and-allies-of-creating-the-transnational-islamist-terrorist-network/
Basically he accuse Americans and its allies of providing military and training assistance..
but what is new is the level of organization and money they have.. According to him..
the Jihadist terrorist.. generate up to 500 millions a year selling drugs.. and that US facilitate..
their negotiations.. he also spoke of training terrorist camps.. in Afganistan and Pakistan.
Weather this is done with the knowledge of their governments is a another question..
http://thesaker.is/the-head-of-the-gru-accuses-us-and-allies-of-creating-the-transnational-islamist-terrorist-network/
Not a surprise. The drug trade in Afghanistan exploded after the US and its minions invaded after 9/11.
I can see the dope dealer infestation of the west with my own eyes. That is why when I hear about Russians
and their vodka problem, I can see pathetic propaganda. What about NATO citizens and their dope problem?
In the USA, at least, the dope trade helps fund the Prison-Industrial Complex, with privately-owned prison plantations competing against slave wage Americans for manufacturing and other jobs. You can get quite a lot of effort out of a guy in exchange for cigarettes and a pack of Ding-Dongs. Not to mention the racial warfare.
But don't kid yourself, much of that opium will make its way to nations the USG wishes to destabilize.
Too many, too small and it would only increase poverty.par far wrote:I have been wondering, can those opium fields be destroyed in a surprise serect attack? We really need to get to those fields.
KoTeMoRe wrote:Rumors that Mozgovoi got killed in ambush?
Please tell me this is a very bad joke.
News-Front via Google Translate wrote:СРОЧНО!!! УБИТ АЛЕКСЕЙ МОЗГОВОЙ (ИНФОРМАЦИЯ УТОЧНЯЕТСЯ)
URGENT !!! KILLED ALEX BRAIN (INFORMATION TO BE CONFIRMED)
23 May 2015 19:22
Our agency News-Front received a terrible and tragic information that killed a respected hero brigade commander "Ghost" LC Alex Brain.
The murder of the leader of the People's Militia was in the same place where not so long ago it was an attempt - between the village of Mikhaylovka and Alchevsk, Lugansk on the track, Alchevsk. According to preliminary information the jeep, which was Brain, was shot from firearms, including machine guns. Heavily damaged in the body and head. Also killed three civilians.
Worked DRG punitive. Unfortunately, they managed to escape.
Details are specified. The information is confirmed by several military brigade "Ghost."
According to a source in the command headquarters of our agency, "It was a cynical murder. While more can not say anything "
We are up to the last we hope that all our sources wrong, but unfortunately, there is increasing evidence supporting including at the level of Chief of Staff of the brigade "Ghost." Continue reading.
LifeNews via Google Translate wrote:В ЛНР совершено покушение на Алексея Мозгового
The LC assassinated Alexis Brain
19:10 May 23, 2015
Status Brigade Commander "Ghost" is specified.
The LC ascertain the circumstances of the next attempt at mechanized brigade commander "Ghost" Alexei Brain. The incident occurred on the outskirts of Mikhailovka. According to preliminary data, Ukrainian acted subversive group.
The circumstances of the assassination, and the state of the brigade commander is now specified.
Recall, this is not the first attempt, which has experienced one of the leaders of Lugansk militia. Thus, the evening of March 7 at the exit of Mikhailovka at the checkpoint - not far from the place where the brigade commander came under attack today - an explosion of three bombs bezobolochnoe with striking elements. The explosion of the brigade commander "Phantom" received light shrapnel wounds and his car "Toyota Sequoia" was heavily damaged. As noted by the engineers, the car waiting for the Brain, since the explosion was made remotely. A month before Lisichansk saboteurs shot machine brigade commander "Ghost." But then in the car instead of the Brain was only his representatives. Continue reading.
whir wrote:The Moscow Times wrote:Russian Soldiers Captured in Ukraine Feel 'Abandoned' by Moscow
By Anna DolgovMay. 22 2015 10:06 Last edited 10:07
Two Russians captured in eastern Ukraine have said they feel abandoned by Moscow, which has not sent any envoys to visit them even while scores of representatives from major international organizations have come to the hospital where they are recovering from their injuries.
Yevgeny Yerofeyev and Alexander Alexandrov have both said that they were on a military mission in the Donbass region of eastern Ukraine — which is the center of fighting between rebel militias and Ukrainian troops — and were hoping that Moscow would show more interest in their fate now that they have been captured by Kiev's forces, according to video interviews with the independent Novaya Gazeta newspaper published online Friday.
"I am just saddened by this situation, that we have been forgotten, abandoned, that they want to write us off," Yerofeyev, who said he is a captain in the Russian army, told Novaya Gazeta.
The Russian Foreign Ministry, however, said earlier this week that its embassy in Kiev has asked to meet with the detained men and to provide them with "necessary help in accordance with the norms of international law."
Ukraine's Foreign Ministry responded that it would "study and consider" the request, according to spokesman Oleksiy Makeyev, the Interfax-Ukraine news service has reported. Continue reading.
Первый по срочным wrote:Urgent! Brainstorming Alex was killed in an attack
E. Basurin: APU increasing their grouping near Gorlovka
The seps are fighting a losing war. I think they should surrender. Russia will obviously not let them win. The destruction of Donbass will just go on for years or even decades. Better to surrender than be a war zone.whir wrote:Первый по срочным wrote:Urgent! Brainstorming Alex was killed in an attack
E. Basurin: APU increasing their grouping near Gorlovka
Well, I guess this was a big victory for the junta. They managed to assassinate one of the biggest leaders of the NAF.max steel wrote:
*Breaking*
Multiple Reports coming in that the heroic, outspoken, and stalwart #Lugansk #NAF commander Alexey Mozgovoy has been assassinated by West-backed Putsch forces despite the Kremlin's so-called Minsk2 "ceasefire".
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lqfCXdQUybE/VBkhYoSHMqI/AAAAAAAAco4/R3rPI-rYLQQ/s1600/10658637.jpg
Mozgovoy essentially foretold his own assassination last week when said "ceasefire" wouldn't hold http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-crisis-separatist-rebel-commander-aleksey-mozgovoi-says-he-is-ready-for-more-deaths--and-warns-ceasefire-with-kiev-wont-hold-10259509.html
NAF must go on the offensive. The longer this goes on, the more people die. Take Kiev, arrest Poroshenko, and the killings will end. In the end, an offensive will end the conflict and end the deaths. We cannot have this conflict go on for decades. max steel wrote: EU signs new €1.8bn bailout for Ukraine
http://on.rt.com/unapc1
Just like the US! They continue to prop up the criminal regime, and Russia is too cowardly to stand up and do anything against it, just kissing up to Kerry and Merkel and let the US/EU have their way as Donbass bleeds .
They are not allowed to and Russia will not help them enough for it.Flagship Victory wrote:Mozgovoi is dead?
Yes, but what can you do? This is a horrible situation for Novorossiya, but they cannot win this war without Russian help, and the help is not coming.Flagship Victory wrote:
The longer this goes on, the more people die.
Just today, on the same day that the junta murdered Mozgovoy, Russia agreed to continue to sell gas for Kiev with a discounted price. These are nice dreams, but it is better not to fantasize too much. Kiev will not be taken and the current junta members will never be punished for their crimes.Flagship Victory wrote:
Take Kiev, arrest Poroshenko, and the killings will end. In the end, an offensive will end the conflict and end the deaths. We cannot have this conflict go on for decades.
Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
As I said before just stop dreaming about the collapse of the Kiev junta. It is not going to happen!! Sure Ukraine will be poor in the future as well, but the West will support them enough that the junta is able to continue this war.max steel wrote: EU signs new €1.8bn bailout for Ukraine
http://on.rt.com/unapc1
Just like the US! They continue to prop up the criminal regime, and Russia is too cowardly to stand up and do anything against it, just kissing up to Kerry and Merkel and let the US/EU have their way as Donbass bleeds .
Rodinazombie wrote:Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
There does need to be a harsh reaction to this, just as kiev needs to be given a bloody nose every time it prolongues this war and continues to violate the accords it signed in minsk.
Personally, id like to see some senior kiev figures with bullets in their heads. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but id rather see poroshenko dead than the thousands of poor civilians killed by his actions.
Sad to say it though, i dont feel confident that moscow will put kiev to the sword, it seems happy to have this 'pseudo-peace' as long as the money flows and the fighting doesnt get too out of control.
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