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Russia's "radical" measure is that they continue to sell Kiev junta gas with a discounted price. Russia agreed to do this just today, just before Mozgovoy was murdered.Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
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The Situation in the Ukraine. #14
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Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. The parade took place and now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
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Karl Haushofer wrote:Russia's "radical" measure is that they continue to sell Kiev junta gas with a discounted price. Russia agreed to do this just today, just before Mozgovoy was murdered.Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
Now he was murdered, but is it confirmed by whom? No one knows so don't speculate just yet. He may have internal enemies as well.
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Nobody in the West will care and Russia will do nothing.max steel wrote:Israel 2.0
Ukraine Rada votes to lift its human rights obligations in east of the country
http://newcoldwar.org/ukraine-rada-votes-to-lift-its-human-rights-obligations-in-east-of-the-country/
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You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserved territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man? 
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Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
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Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. The parade took place and now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
If this is the case, maybe Dremov should run off to Donetsk and let Lugansk deal with its own mess.
Karl Haushofer wrote:Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
According to some, Donetsk is doing fine in terms of having people whom are all on the same agenda. Apparently, Lugansk is different where it is like mafia rule. So it will take either the people on the lower end or the Donetsk to clean up Lugansk. Lugansk militia will survive of course, cause they seem to have no problem getting decent weaponry and manpower, but they won't be like Donetsk though.
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Couple of questions arise immediately:
-Are we sure this isn't done by someone inside? We know that Mozgovoi had some harsh words about the Kremlin. Perhaps someone out there decided to eliminate him to avoid future problems with this guy?
-If this is indeed the work of a diversion group then it should worry the LPR because their lines aren't well protected since diversion groups can sneak in.
-Are we sure this isn't done by someone inside? We know that Mozgovoi had some harsh words about the Kremlin. Perhaps someone out there decided to eliminate him to avoid future problems with this guy?
-If this is indeed the work of a diversion group then it should worry the LPR because their lines aren't well protected since diversion groups can sneak in.
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RIP to Mozgovoi.
Hold the line and wait for orders. A month. A year. The opportunity will come and the war will be won.
The Soviet Union didn't win the war by winning every battle. They lost much ground, but in the end they reconquered all. And no-one screamed about imminent defeat.
Monarchist now I know it's you
Hold the line and wait for orders. A month. A year. The opportunity will come and the war will be won.
The Soviet Union didn't win the war by winning every battle. They lost much ground, but in the end they reconquered all. And no-one screamed about imminent defeat.
Flagship Victory wrote:You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserve territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man?
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Rodinazombie wrote:Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
There does need to be a harsh reaction to this, just as kiev needs to be given a bloody nose every time it prolongues this war and continues to violate the accords it signed in minsk.
Personally, id like to see some senior kiev figures with bullets in their heads. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but id rather see poroshenko dead than the thousands of poor civilians killed by his actions.
Sad to say it though, i dont feel confident that moscow will put kiev to the sword, it seems happy to have this 'pseudo-peace' as long as the money flows and the fighting doesnt get too out of control. I dont want to come across as one of the 'putin doesn help novorossia' tools, but he is more interested in looking after the money.
Thats all well and good, but when the enemy is on your doorstep and its your own brothers that are bleeding, you need to show that enemy that enough if enough. Putins strategy isnt going to deter the west at all. It just teaches them that as long as they grease russias palms along the way, they will get what they want in the end.
Money is fine and dandy, but Putin must understand gas won't last forever. Heck, Norway and the US are poised to replace Russian supply with their supplies. When that day comes, what's Putin going to do? Not only has he lost Ukraine, the respect of ethnic Russians of Ukraine, he won't get a dime because the EU will no longer buy Russian gas, instead using wind energy which already accounts for over half of Germany's energy use.
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gregoire wrote:
Did anyone see this?
Crazy psyops to bait russia or novorossiya. Clearly school of americas.
skin them alive.
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Flagship Victory wrote:Rodinazombie wrote:Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
There does need to be a harsh reaction to this, just as kiev needs to be given a bloody nose every time it prolongues this war and continues to violate the accords it signed in minsk.
Personally, id like to see some senior kiev figures with bullets in their heads. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but id rather see poroshenko dead than the thousands of poor civilians killed by his actions.
Sad to say it though, i dont feel confident that moscow will put kiev to the sword, it seems happy to have this 'pseudo-peace' as long as the money flows and the fighting doesnt get too out of control. I dont want to come across as one of the 'putin doesn help novorossia' tools, but he is more interested in looking after the money.
Thats all well and good, but when the enemy is on your doorstep and its your own brothers that are bleeding, you need to show that enemy that enough if enough. Putins strategy isnt going to deter the west at all. It just teaches them that as long as they grease russias palms along the way, they will get what they want in the end.
Money is fine and dandy, but Putin must understand gas won't last forever. Heck, Norway and the US are poised to replace Russian supply with their supplies. When that day comes, what's Putin going to do? Not only has he lost Ukraine, the respect of ethnic Russians of Ukraine, he won't get a dime because the EU will no longer buy Russian gas, instead using wind energy which already accounts for over half of Germany's energy use.
The money gained now can be used for infrastructure development internally. As well, they are looking to increase domestic consumption. Then there is of course power of Siberia pipeline to China (and then connecting far east with western Russia), and then Turkstream. Yes, Russia will lose a ton of money from Europe, but at that point, all bars hold, they can actually start supporting Eastern Ukraine properly as there will be nothing else last to lose.
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Karl Haushofer wrote:Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
You're right it could; Kiev accusations & propaganda has some merit to it.
Main thing though is that it's going better than the Kiev project; which is a wreck that is poised to become the next Somalia.
Honestly the Novorussians just have to keep a certain standard up; and they will be far better off than what is going on next-door to them.
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Not a power struggle as people know were the power is and will not fight it. IMO, Plotnitsky should be removed immediately and a "small" Novorossiya created in fact, not just name, between LNR and DNR and a proper combined army formed. But this will not happen, even tho it is the obvious thing to do. Arguments about that could last hours, days.....Karl Haushofer wrote:Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
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Khepesh wrote:Not a power struggle as people know were the power is and will not fight it. IMO, Plotnitsky should be removed immediately and a "small" Novorossiya created in fact, not just name, between LNR and DNR and a proper combined army formed. But this will not happen, even tho it is the obvious thing to do. Arguments about that could last hours, days.....Karl Haushofer wrote:Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
Has more to do with.....what exactly though? I agree, they should be formed together to create a unity and a united military formation, which would be far more potent. But it is more to do with someone like Plotnitsky wanting to keep his power, right? But what could he gain from snuffing off Mozgovoi? I mean, Mozgovoi was protecting them more than anything.
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It's not me I can assure you.flamming_python wrote:RIP to Mozgovoi.
Hold the line and wait for orders. A month. A year. The opportunity will come and the war will be won.
The Soviet Union didn't win the war by winning every battle. They lost much ground, but in the end they reconquered all. And no-one screamed about imminent defeat.Flagship Victory wrote:You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserve territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man?
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All I'm going to say is Kingdom of heaven Alexey!
You will stand side by side with other russian heroes and saints in heaven and I hope those did this will never have a normal life again.I'm not going to post for a while. Russia is ruled by the most russophobic,criminal scum of people that obviously despise russians, the very same one's that came to power in the anti-russian revolution in 1917.
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Monarchist wrote:It's not me I can assure you.flamming_python wrote:RIP to Mozgovoi.
Hold the line and wait for orders. A month. A year. The opportunity will come and the war will be won.
The Soviet Union didn't win the war by winning every battle. They lost much ground, but in the end they reconquered all. And no-one screamed about imminent defeat.Flagship Victory wrote:You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserve territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man?
Monarchist now I know it's you
All I'm going to say is Kingdom of heaven Alexey!
I'm not going to post for a while. Russia is ruled by the most russophobic,criminal scum of people that obviously despise russians, the very same one's that came to power in the anti-russian revolution in 1917.
Anti Russian? No, because he isn't stopping sanctions. More like, opportunists. Problem is, they are somewhat throwing their people to the wolves in eastern Ukraine to make a few bucks. In return, they provide pittens to the people of the east Ukraine. I don't think it is right myself, but that is what he is doing, playing a balancing act that isn't working IMO. I personally think there should be a semi coup in Lugansk, and then unite the two (Donetsk and Luganks), to give it a far better fighting and economic chance.
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93rd brigade commander mysteriously released today. Ghost bridgade commander mysteriously assassinated today. Coincidence? I think not. It stinks of a scheme. I hope Putin is not behind these acts. 
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainian-commander-freed-from-custody-of-donetsk-rebels-389307.html
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainian-commander-freed-from-custody-of-donetsk-rebels-389307.html
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Funny how they together share the same religious and ethnical background as Plotnitskiy and those that came to power in 1917.sepheronx wrote:Monarchist wrote:It's not me I can assure you.flamming_python wrote:RIP to Mozgovoi.
Hold the line and wait for orders. A month. A year. The opportunity will come and the war will be won.
The Soviet Union didn't win the war by winning every battle. They lost much ground, but in the end they reconquered all. And no-one screamed about imminent defeat.Flagship Victory wrote:You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserve territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man?
Monarchist now I know it's you
All I'm going to say is Kingdom of heaven Alexey!
I'm not going to post for a while. Russia is ruled by the most russophobic,criminal scum of people that obviously despise russians, the very same one's that came to power in the anti-russian revolution in 1917.
Anti Russian? No, because he isn't stopping sanctions. More like, opportunists. Problem is, they are somewhat throwing their people to the wolves in eastern Ukraine to make a few bucks. In return, they provide pittens to the people of the east Ukraine. I don't think it is right myself, but that is what he is doing, playing a balancing act that isn't working IMO. I personally think there should be a semi coup in Lugansk, and then unite the two (Donetsk and Luganks), to give it a far better fighting and economic chance.
They murder people that fought and were adored by the people of Donbass.
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sepheronx wrote:Flagship Victory wrote:Rodinazombie wrote:Neutrality wrote:Radical and harsh suggestion as an answer so that Kiev respects ceasefire agreements: Round up a few POWs, execute them and then announce that the diversion group was caught and killed in a fire fight.
There does need to be a harsh reaction to this, just as kiev needs to be given a bloody nose every time it prolongues this war and continues to violate the accords it signed in minsk.
Personally, id like to see some senior kiev figures with bullets in their heads. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but id rather see poroshenko dead than the thousands of poor civilians killed by his actions.
Sad to say it though, i dont feel confident that moscow will put kiev to the sword, it seems happy to have this 'pseudo-peace' as long as the money flows and the fighting doesnt get too out of control. I dont want to come across as one of the 'putin doesn help novorossia' tools, but he is more interested in looking after the money.
Thats all well and good, but when the enemy is on your doorstep and its your own brothers that are bleeding, you need to show that enemy that enough if enough. Putins strategy isnt going to deter the west at all. It just teaches them that as long as they grease russias palms along the way, they will get what they want in the end.
Money is fine and dandy, but Putin must understand gas won't last forever. Heck, Norway and the US are poised to replace Russian supply with their supplies. When that day comes, what's Putin going to do? Not only has he lost Ukraine, the respect of ethnic Russians of Ukraine, he won't get a dime because the EU will no longer buy Russian gas, instead using wind energy which already accounts for over half of Germany's energy use.
The money gained now can be used for infrastructure development internally. As well, they are looking to increase domestic consumption. Then there is of course power of Siberia pipeline to China (and then connecting far east with western Russia), and then Turkstream. Yes, Russia will lose a ton of money from Europe, but at that point, all bars hold, they can actually start supporting Eastern Ukraine properly as there will be nothing else last to lose.
I see where you are coming from, but how long is it going to be before the chinese pipeline starts to make money for russia? 2020? By the time russia is able to hold out against the ecomonic warfare used against it, novorossia may well be gone and the enemy will be knocking on the door.
Putin is walking a fine line and i respect that, BUT for me he is walking slightly on the wrong side of that line.
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Mostly to do with Plotnitsky holding power, but not entirely as there is also the issue of why there is no Novorossiya, why no single leader, no single army. Yet in war this is a divisive question and personally I avoid it in public. However, there is a firestorm going on and calls for Plotnitsky to be shot, and the press conference by LNR prosecutor Gorenko is being treated with a lot of skepticism, even derision. True he looked shocked, but also rather shifty and uncomforatable. Easy to blame Plotnitsky, but I think it is not so clear and that there are too many other factors for a clear answer. Perhaps a behind the scenes arrangement by a certain group who have ties that cross battle lines and country borders, I don't know....sepheronx wrote:Khepesh wrote:Not a power struggle as people know were the power is and will not fight it. IMO, Plotnitsky should be removed immediately and a "small" Novorossiya created in fact, not just name, between LNR and DNR and a proper combined army formed. But this will not happen, even tho it is the obvious thing to do. Arguments about that could last hours, days.....Karl Haushofer wrote:Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
Has more to do with.....what exactly though? I agree, they should be formed together to create a unity and a united military formation, which would be far more potent. But it is more to do with someone like Plotnitsky wanting to keep his power, right? But what could he gain from snuffing off Mozgovoi? I mean, Mozgovoi was protecting them more than anything.
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Monarchist wrote:It's not me I can assure you.flamming_python wrote:RIP to Mozgovoi.
Hold the line and wait for orders. A month. A year. The opportunity will come and the war will be won.
The Soviet Union didn't win the war by winning every battle. They lost much ground, but in the end they reconquered all. And no-one screamed about imminent defeat.Flagship Victory wrote:You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserve territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man?
Monarchist now I know it's you
All I'm going to say is Kingdom of heaven Alexey!
I'm not going to post for a while. Russia is ruled by the most russophobic,criminal scum of people that obviously despise russians, the very same one's that came to power in the anti-russian revolution in 1917.
I wish you wouldn't lose track of who the real enemy is here.
No it's not Putin. It's the people in Kiev who are murdering people in the first place.
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Khepesh wrote:Not a power struggle as people know were the power is and will not fight it. IMO, Plotnitsky should be removed immediately and a "small" Novorossiya created in fact, not just name, between LNR and DNR and a proper combined army formed. But this will not happen, even tho it is the obvious thing to do. Arguments about that could last hours, days.....Karl Haushofer wrote:Khepesh wrote:Severe shock at murder of Alexei Mozgovoi, a real man. Read again what Mozgovoi wrote about the "system" and the threat he received on 6 May not to hold parade on Victory Day in Alchevsk. He was given two choices if he held a parade, arrest or destruction. Now he is dead, and while he did not say directly who the threat was from, it is clear it could only have come from Plotnitsky. Pavel Dremov will be next, then there are no men left in command positions in LNR, only actors and rats.
https://vk.com/id265927036?w=wall265927036_88938
So it was an internal power struggle then? Not any better than Kiev killing him though. Novorossiyan project could be going better.
RIP
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Flagship Victory wrote:You know, blame Milosevic all you want, but in my eyes he was a hero of the Serbian people. Milosevic fully backed Republic Srpska in Bosnia with everything including arms. Republic Srpska almost took over the entire Bosnia had it not been for US military intervention. In the end, Milosevic signed Dayton agreement and more or less preserved territorial integrity of Republic Srpska. Only after the US invaded Serbia did Milosevic get killed. Had Putin backed Novorossiya as much as Milosevic backed Republic Srpska, heck, NAF would have taken Kiev by now. Putin does not allow NAF to go on any offensive. Stopping the August 2014 offensive with Minsk 1 and stopping the February 2015 offensive with Minsk 2. What's with Putin man?
Stop going off topic and ranting about crap you don't have a clue about!!!
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Prominent Lugansk Militia Leader Mozgovoi Assassinated
Prominent militia leader Mozgovoi was assassinated on Saturday evening after the vehicle he was traveling in ran into an ambush.
Lugansk militia leader Aleksey Mozgovoi was assassinated by unknown gunmen on Saturday after the vehicle he was traveling in ran into an ambush.
Mozgovoi was the head of Lugansk's Prizrak ("Ghost") Brigade militia, one of the most prominent militias in the region.
"This happened at around the same place as where an assassination attempt against Mozgovoi was made on March 7. The ambush took place on the highway between Lugansk and Alchevsk, unknown persons shot at the jeep Mozgovoi and his guards were traveling in. Mozgovoi was seriously injured and died on the spot," a representative of the militia told RIA Novosti.
According to the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic's Deputy General Prosecutor, Mozgovoi was killed alongside six other people. Mozgovoi's entourage included his press secretary and three members of his security detail, according to Russian news site LifeNews.
Mozgovoi was killed when the car he was traveling in ran into an ambush outside the village of Mikhailovka, east of his group's headquarters in Alchevsk, in the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic.