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Khepesh wrote:Gorlovka tonight as bad as January. Picture paints a thousand words....
Correct, they have to get RS back to war and the population's mind onto a greater enemy.auslander wrote:Khepesh wrote:Gorlovka tonight as bad as January. Picture paints a thousand words....
I know. UAF will do anything to provoke our boys to attack. Our boys will not attack until ordered to do so. It is only going to get worse over the next days. The orcs are desperate.
Sputnik wrote:Poroshenko to Be ‘Executed in Dark Basement’ After Coup – Right Sector
EUROPE 21:43 15.07.2015(updated 21:58 15.07.2015)
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko should be worried, as things are getting hot on the streets of Kiev amid the standoff between the Ukrainian government and the Neo-Nazi radical group Right Sector.
The extremist group said Poroshenko won't be able to flee from the country in the event of a coup, as did his predecessor Viktor Yanukovych in February of 2014, the Voice of America (VOA) reported, citing Artem Skoropadsky, the press secretary of the Right Sector.
"If there's a new revolution, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and his supporters won't be able to escape from the country, as did the previous president. They can't expect anything, but an execution in some dark basement carried out by a group of young Ukrainian soldiers or members of the National Guard," Skoropadsky warned the current president, as quoted by VOA. Continue reading.
RT wrote:US officials say Ukraine rebels behind MH17 downing, Dutch team cannot confirm
Published time: July 15, 2015 19:05
Edited time: July 15, 2015 19:49
US officials reportedly familiar with the Dutch report on the MH17 crash in Ukraine that took place a year ago blamed the rebels for shooting down the plane, according to US media. The Dutch investigators told RT they “cannot confirm” this.
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, heading from Amsterdam to Kuala-Lumpur, crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people on board. The Dutch Safety Board has been heading an international investigation into the cause of the crash since a large number of passengers on the flight were from Holland while the plane itself flew out of Amsterdam.
According to CNN, who cited two anonymous US officials, the plane was downed by the eastern Ukrainian militia.
“Dutch accident investigators say that evidence points to pro-Russian rebels as being responsible for shooting down MH-17, according to a source who has seen the report,” CNN reported Wednesday. DSB is due to release their report in October, so what the channel’s sources may have seen is a draft.
One of the sources also alleged the draft identified the “exact type of missile used to bring down MH17 and the trajectory of the missile.”
Both the sources claimed the Dutch investigators partly put the blame for the crash on Malaysia Airlines, which did not divert the plane from the conflict zone.
“The Malaysia Airlines was not reading other countries' notice to airmen or NOTAMs and it continued to fly over the zone,” says CNN. NOTAM stands for Notice to Airmen, which is filed with an aviation authority to alert pilots of potential hazards along their route.
The Dutch Safety Board spokesperson told RT the investigators “cannot confirm” this information.
"I cannot confirm anything. It's a confidential draft report, which has been sent to the International Investigation Team and I cannot provide any details about it as long as it is a draft report - so we only give comments when the final report is issued,” Sara Vernooij said over the phone.
There are two parallel investigations into the disaster, both headed by the Dutch, with the first carried by the DBS looking into the cause of the crash. The second investigation carried out by the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) is a criminal inquiry. Continue reading.
TASS wrote:Investigators: MH17 shot down over Ukraine by air-to-air missile not made in Russia
World July 15, 21:41 UTC+3
Russian Investigation Committee’s spokesman says priority version confirmed the testimony of mechanic Yegeny Agapov, who served in the first squad of the Ukraine Air Force tactical aviation brigade
MOSCOW, July 15 /TASS/. The Russian Investigation Committee is inclined to believe that an air-to air missile, which was not made in Russia, shot down a Malaysian Boeing (MH17 flight) over Ukraine a year ago.
"As for the priority version, we have information, which among other things is based on expertise, that the plane was hit by an air-to-air missile. Moreover, the experts assume that the type of missile has been established. The missile is not Russian-made," Vladimir Markin, the Russian Investigation Committee spokesman, told TASS on Wednesday.
Markin said the Investigation Committee’s priority version confirmed the testimony of mechanic Yegeny Agapov, who served in the first squad of the Ukraine Air Force tactical aviation brigade.
"It is vitally important for us to carefully study all the versions. This is how the Investigation Committee investigates criminal cases," Markin concluded.
The Malaysian Boeing MH17 crashed over Ukraine’s Donetsk region on July 17, 2014. The plane was on its way from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. Fifteen crewmen and 283 passengers, most of whom were Dutch, died. According to the main version, the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air or an air-to-air missile. The Ukrainian government and the militias of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) accused each other of what happened.
The Dutch Security Council took the incident’s investigation under its control. Continue reading.
KP via Google Translate wrote:Малайзийский «Боинг» под Донецком погубил израильский «Питон»
Malaysian "Boeing" of Donetsk killed an Israeli "Python"
Politics|Crash Malaysian "Boeing" Dmitry Steshin(21:29)
The findings confirm the version of "Komsomolskaya Pravda", which is based on the testimony of "secret witness" , who came to our editorial office in December 2014. This was the Ukrainian Aircraft Eugene Agapov , who served at the airfield near Dnepropetrovsk. On the day of the death of "Boeing" on 17 July 2014, Evgeniy Agapov personally saw how Ukrainian Su-25 piloted by Captain Voloshin, flew from the airport with rockets "air-to-air" and landed without them.
The experts' report on dozens of pages of analysis of the damage of the aircraft, the nature of holes, simulated on a model rocket blasting zone. It calculates the weight of its warhead - from 10 to 40 kilograms. It sets the shape and weight of submunitions:
"Average weight of about 3 g with an estimated shape of a parallelepiped with sides 8h8h6 mm (with a tolerance of ± 0,5 mm) in an amount of 2000 - 4000 units. At the same time there was an explosion of the warhead at a distance of 0.8 - 1.6 m from the vents crew commander. "
Further experts immersed in a comparative analysis of the performance characteristics of Russian air defense systems and installed:
Firstly, the amazing elements of domestic missiles "Air-air" - rods.
Second, the "analysis of the characteristics of domestic anti-aircraft weapons showed that among them is enough complexes, missile which can hit aerial target at an altitude of 10 km. However, they all have a lot of high-explosive fragmentation warhead significantly greater than 40 kg.
Thus, the complex set of characteristics do not match any one guided weapons air targets domestic development and production of class "air - air" and "ground - air" that can hit aircraft at an altitude of about 10 km. " Continue reading.
whir wrote:KP via Google Translate wrote:Малайзийский «Боинг» под Донецком погубил израильский «Питон»
Malaysian "Boeing" of Donetsk killed an Israeli "Python"
Politics|Crash Malaysian "Boeing" Dmitry Steshin(21:29)
The findings confirm the version of "Komsomolskaya Pravda", which is based on the testimony of "secret witness" , who came to our editorial office in December 2014. This was the Ukrainian Aircraft Eugene Agapov , who served at the airfield near Dnepropetrovsk. On the day of the death of "Boeing" on 17 July 2014, Evgeniy Agapov personally saw how Ukrainian Su-25 piloted by Captain Voloshin, flew from the airport with rockets "air-to-air" and landed without them.
The experts' report on dozens of pages of analysis of the damage of the aircraft, the nature of holes, simulated on a model rocket blasting zone. It calculates the weight of its warhead - from 10 to 40 kilograms. It sets the shape and weight of submunitions:
"Average weight of about 3 g with an estimated shape of a parallelepiped with sides 8h8h6 mm (with a tolerance of ± 0,5 mm) in an amount of 2000 - 4000 units. At the same time there was an explosion of the warhead at a distance of 0.8 - 1.6 m from the vents crew commander. "
Further experts immersed in a comparative analysis of the performance characteristics of Russian air defense systems and installed:
Firstly, the amazing elements of domestic missiles "Air-air" - rods.
Second, the "analysis of the characteristics of domestic anti-aircraft weapons showed that among them is enough complexes, missile which can hit aerial target at an altitude of 10 km. However, they all have a lot of high-explosive fragmentation warhead significantly greater than 40 kg.
Thus, the complex set of characteristics do not match any one guided weapons air targets domestic development and production of class "air - air" and "ground - air" that can hit aircraft at an altitude of about 10 km. " Continue reading.
Александр Гунько wrote:Mariupol! Fight with PRIZRAKAMI.Drugoy view
In the role of ghost-unarmed residents of Mariupol !!!
auslander wrote:............
I know. UAF will do anything to provoke our boys to attack. Our boys will not attack until ordered to do so. It is only going to get worse over the next days. The orcs are desperate.
Haha the similarities are too close!Cowboy's daughter wrote:The music is awful, ugh.
Azov Battalion Recieves U.S. Aid ISIS Style Vechiles and P.R. Makeover in Mariupol
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=784_1436919656
Revolution of Dignity for y'all. Although, the region of Chernihiv and surrounding areas including parts of Belarus and parts of Russia have been in a steady decline since the collapse. The Euromaidan seems to have only dug them deeper into the hole. In Russia, last I heard they are starting to make progress with revitalization of these regions. Really a shame that your neighbors are blessed with better luck in the long term due to a non existent border that was drawn through there almost a hundred years ago.Cowboy's daughter wrote:not exactly fighting for food, but I am surprised that Chernihiv needs food assistance as it's Kiev government controlled.
Ukrainians began to fight on streets for food
News-Front wrote:Combat training Cossack tankers Paul Dremova
Neutrality wrote:Another very shocking video that Anatoly Shariy released:
"Ukrop" party bribing pensioners in exchange for food. Very depressing video. Some "volunteer" comes up to the camera guy and starts harassing him, accusing him of "provocation" and what not, then apologizes and moves on. This video has everything. Brainwashed "browncoats" who are harassing people like the camera guy in public and the terrible state of the Ukrainian society. The people who are lined up, while it's raining, are even disgusted with themselves because they find it despicable and disrespectful when people with power manipulate the most unprotected citizens (pensioners) like that. There's also a guy who seems to be in his 50ies saying "look what became of us, look what these bastards did to us".
I just hope that this is a sign of things to come, not because I want Poroshenko and his team to burn (and I do). But for the good of those who didn't want any part in this muppet show.
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Out of 10 largest cities in Ukraine 6 are in the east.
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