The Situation in the Ukraine. #18

Khepesh wrote:In Donetsk hundreds of people protest outside the hotel used by OSCE. They call on them to do their job impartially and report truthfully, and some are holding fragments of shells that had landed in their homes or on their property.

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

auslander wrote:Gentlemen, let's try to keep the discourse civil.

We in the south are now in day four of a DoS attack. Net service is slowly getting back to normal but the attack continues. I have no info as to who or where the attack is coming from. Today, after being down since just after 20:00 yesterday, service came up at 06:50 and went down at 07:40 for an hour. Makes writing or posting a bit more involved in that one writes email replies and posts off line and then it's copy and paste.

Read the OSCE report. No surprises there.

I can't imagine living under a DOS attack, but never say it can't or won't happen here.

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

sepheronx wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Neutrality, I like your style, but nope. The most likely response would be nothing fancy, probably some Smerch will unload RIGHT upon the Radar location, probably stolen from UA stocks...After all the previous CBR/CMR was neatly packed for the VSN to take home.

Apparently last time when NAF took artillery, they counted what they captured and some of it was the American counter battery radar.  I remember a snippit of that NAF said they now both have Russian and US counter battery radar (as they used what they capture of course).

So Russia clearly has sent them radar as such.  I just don't know the designation of it.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

International law defines a child soldier as a combatant taking part in hostilities at age 15 or younger. Combatants that are over 15 may fight but only voluntarily until the age of 18. Anything 18 and above is fair game.

I understand that they are referring to conscription so this is involuntary service.

whir wrote:

Kazzura English Subtitles wrote:[eng subs] "Donbass Under Fire: Unbowed" Documentary by Maxim Fadeyev

auslander wrote:

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

International law defines a child soldier as a combatant taking part in hostilities at age 15 or younger. Combatants that are over 15 may fight but only voluntarily until the age of 18. Anything 18 and above is fair game.

I understand that they are referring to conscription so this is involuntary service.

Understood, but often reality is reality. Our 'son' was 15 when we got him and his sisters to safety. Trust me, after what happened to his sisters, now our daughters, age 12 and 10 at the time, if he was but 10 this boy would have fought his way to Kiev and there would have been nothing but a wide black smoking ruin on his way in and back. He turned 16 last September and, since I understood there was no way I or my wife could keep him with us when he became a man, we went to Option 2. The only absolute in Russia is there are no absolutes.

Euromaidan PR wrote:Russian Tanks, APCs And Other Military Equipment Is Shipped Toward Ukraine

higurashihougi wrote:Probably the thing that all sides can agree is that, most Poles see facist shit like Pravyy Sektor as the worst enemy, disregard of their opinion about Russia. Proof ? Ah, about 60,000-120,000 Poles was killed by the Bandera thugs during WW2.

So, yeah, the Poles are happy to give a punch to the Pravyy Sektor shits in Lviv.

But what worries me is the attitude of Polish politicians and goverment. History shows me that I should not expect anything wise from these politicians.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

International law defines a child soldier as a combatant taking part in hostilities at age 15 or younger. Combatants that are over 15 may fight but only voluntarily until the age of 18. Anything 18 and above is fair game.

I understand that they are referring to conscription so this is involuntary service.

Understood, but often reality is reality. Our 'son' was 15 when we got him and his sisters to safety. Trust me, after what happened to his sisters, now our daughters, age 12 and 10 at the time, if he was but 10 this boy would have fought his way to Kiev and there would have been nothing but a wide black smoking ruin on his way in and back. He turned 16 last September and, since I understood there was no way I or my wife could keep him with us when he became a man, we went to Option 2. The only absolute in Russia is there are no absolutes.

I forgot that Russia (and probably most other CIS countries) has mandatory schooling until around 16-17 years. In the US, mandatory schooling is until 17-18 but with parental permission you may join the military early. I looked into what the Ukrainian analyst was saying and I think he means pulling kids out of school and forcing them to serve. So is your son getting his conscription out of the way? I have relatives which are both serving right now, one is in the Air Force and the other was in originally in the VDV (don't know details of his current unit). I understand that both those branches favor professional personnel over conscripts.

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

International law defines a child soldier as a combatant taking part in hostilities at age 15 or younger. Combatants that are over 15 may fight but only voluntarily until the age of 18. Anything 18 and above is fair game.

I understand that they are referring to conscription so this is involuntary service.

Understood, but often reality is reality. Our 'son' was 15 when we got him and his sisters to safety. Trust me, after what happened to his sisters, now our daughters, age 12 and 10 at the time, if he was but 10 this boy would have fought his way to Kiev and there would have been nothing but a wide black smoking ruin on his way in and back. He turned 16 last September and, since I understood there was no way I or my wife could keep him with us when he became a man, we went to Option 2. The only absolute in Russia is there are no absolutes.

I forgot that Russia (and probably most other CIS countries) has mandatory schooling until around 16-17 years. In the US, mandatory schooling is until 17-18 but with parental permission you may join the military early. I looked into what the Ukrainian analyst was saying and I think he means pulling kids out of school and forcing them to serve. So is your son getting his conscription out of the way? I have relatives which are both serving right now, one is in the Air Force and the other was in originally in the VDV (don't know details of his current unit). I understand that both those branches favor professional personnel over conscripts.

He is too young for conscription in RF but he is serving at this time. He and his sisters are orphans from a village near Kramatorsk, the state of orphan and his sisters being outraged compliments of UAF. You can connect the dots as to where he is at this time. If you wish more details PM me and I will fill you in.

Regular wrote:

auslander wrote:

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

Sensitive topic.
I don't know about Ukraine, but You are now in Russia. Good luck for that "man" to buy bottle of vodka, get a car license, vote or work proper job. Pretty much they are as much self sustained like bee drones.
Most of these "men" will piss themselves if they have to speak man to man. They have no legal responsibility, but they have all the rights, what manliness is this? The term You were looking for was Malyafka - and it's not their place in war especially among fanatics.

JohninMK wrote:Love the loaded title. Perhaps, 'Russian Tanks, APCs And Other Military Equipment redeployed in South West Russia' might be more accurate.

whir wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Love the loaded title. Perhaps, 'Russian Tanks, APCs And Other Military Equipment redeployed in South West Russia' might be more accurate.

I'm sure the original has a completely different wording for title.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
Wow. I am so sorry. I didn't realize you had such a close link to the conflict there as well. My respect for you just doubled for you and your wife's sacrifice for helping those kids out. I hope they are doing fine and please tell you son thank you for his service as well.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Maybe they could just hire Jurassic World to clone them some Raptors?    

Ukrainian analyst says underage conscripts can join Ukraine’s voluntary battalions

http://tass.ru/en/world/810338

So essentially resorting to the use of child soldiers.

Define 'child'. Here a boy is considered a man at 16 years. I don't know the legal age but 16 is reality here.

International law defines a child soldier as a combatant taking part in hostilities at age 15 or younger. Combatants that are over 15 may fight but only voluntarily until the age of 18. Anything 18 and above is fair game.

I understand that they are referring to conscription so this is involuntary service.

Understood, but often reality is reality. Our 'son' was 15 when we got him and his sisters to safety. Trust me, after what happened to his sisters, now our daughters, age 12 and 10 at the time, if he was but 10 this boy would have fought his way to Kiev and there would have been nothing but a wide black smoking ruin on his way in and back. He turned 16 last September and, since I understood there was no way I or my wife could keep him with us when he became a man, we went to Option 2. The only absolute in Russia is there are no absolutes.

I forgot that Russia (and probably most other CIS countries) has mandatory schooling until around 16-17 years. In the US, mandatory schooling is until 17-18 but with parental permission you may join the military early. I looked into what the Ukrainian analyst was saying and I think he means pulling kids out of school and forcing them to serve. So is your son getting his conscription out of the way? I have relatives which are both serving right now, one is in the Air Force and the other was in originally in the VDV (don't know details of his current unit). I understand that both those branches favor professional personnel over conscripts.

He is too young for conscription in RF but he is serving at this time. He and his sisters are orphans from a village near Kramatorsk, the state of orphan and his sisters being outraged compliments of UAF. You can connect the dots as to where he is at this time. If you wish more details PM me and I will fill you in.

Wow. I am so sorry. I didn't realize you had such a close link to the conflict there as well. My respect for you just doubled for you and your wife's sacrifice for helping those kids out. I hope they are doing fine and please tell you son thank you for his service as well.

Regular wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
Wow. I am so sorry. I didn't realize you had such a close link to the conflict there as well. My respect for you just doubled for you and your wife's sacrifice for helping those kids out. I hope they are doing fine and please tell you son thank you for his service as well.

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Didn't know that too. Respect to Auslander, I wish You and Your family the best. Excuse me for my comment about children, I have my own and I would never want to see them in a way of harm, no matter how old are they.