The Situation in the Ukraine. #18

auslander wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:J. Hawk's comment is pure gold!


Pyatt to visit Transcarpathia

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/07/pyatt-to-visit-transcarpathia.html

Translated from Ukrainian by J.Hawk

Tomorrow, on Tuesday July 21, the Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary (sic) US Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Pyatt will arrive in the Transcarpathia Region. Mukachevo.net learned it from government sources.

The diplomat plans to meet with the region's leaders in Uzhgorod. The ambassador intends to learn the local authorities' opinion on the situation in the region. There is little doubt the ambassador's visit is connected with the recent gun battle in Mukachevo.

J.Hawk's Comment: His Royal Highness Sir Pyatt shall deign to breathe the same air as the lowly mortals of a remote province of a Category III vassal! He might not realize this (he probably doesn't), but trips like that do little to improve the sense, among ordinary Ukrainians, that Ukraine is a sovereign, independent, self-governing country capable of controlling its own destiny.

Which of course it isn't, but one should at least maintain appearances!

Say, isn't that Don Quixote in the photo's backdrop? And do I detect a certain irony in Mukachevo.net describing him as "Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary"? Just cut to the chase and refer to him as Viceroy. Saves ink and paper.

Seriously, what happened to US diplomacy? Back when I was a wee lad they were best in business.
These new guys that are running the show today are total noobs...

Im only a mere 29 year old, but even i remember the days where US diplocmacy, even if still morally questionable, was very classy and smooth. They did things the right way without people noticing or giving em reason to feel slighted or get their backs up.

Now, its like they have a list of how not to do it, and orders to do the exact opposite of that

I have five years on you so I remember that same period and it's just like you said, classy and smooth before, now- amateur hour...

Good Lord I'm old enough to be the youngster's grandfather and way old enough to the the old guy's father. Suddenly I feel REALLY old. Well, maybe not.

sepheronx wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:Just when you thought OSCE can't get any lower as a stooge.    OSCE reports seeing 20,021 men in armed uniform cross between Russia and Donbas.

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-live-day-518-heavy-fighting-across-front-with-civilian-casualties/

You are aware you are using 5th coloumnist article site, right?  I suggest you use official website of OSCE.  This has already been brought to your attention but you blatantly ignored it, so I am starting to think you are either aircargo (former member that trolled intentionally) or an idiot.

Thank you.

sepheronx wrote:OSCE fixes shelling of Donetsk city centre first time in several months — SMM report

sepheronx wrote:And your history sucks.  US had them, England had them, etc.  Even a prince of England was pro Nazi just before the war.  Jane Fonda is one for USA.

Flagship Victory wrote:

sepheronx wrote:OSCE fixes shelling of Donetsk city centre first time in several months — SMM report

Wow just wow. Maidan has been shelling Donetsk for years and and this is the first time OSCE reports?  Swedish fags

franco wrote:

Khepesh wrote:pravy sektor have set up a checkpoint, or rather taken over a checkpoint, on the border with PMR at the village of Tymkovo in Odessa oblast. "normal" Ukranian border guards and customs officers are said to welcome this and are willing to cooperate. Bizarre, complete anarchy... http://public.od.ua/news/2015/07/20/ps-ustanovil-blokpost/# and the location is here https://maps.yandex.ru/?ll=29.290267%2C47.873327&z=13&l=map

According to Interfax, they only stayed there for 10 minutes. Bizarre indeed.

sepheronx wrote:Like i said, Jane Fonda is one.  Many call her a traitor and still do.  Plenty others like her.  How about snowden?  He is considered a traitor.  Then there is the crap actually going on in USA right now: Mass shootings and police killing 2 people per day since start of 2015.  And those are Americans killing Americans.

Rodinazombie wrote:

I have five years on you so I remember that same period and it's just like you said, classy and smooth before, now- amateur hour...

Good Lord I'm old enough to be the youngster's grandfather and way old enough to the the old guy's father. Suddenly I feel REALLY old. Well, maybe not.

Auslander, a man is only as old as he feels, i feel a lot older than 29, and i guess having a nice russian woman and the beautiful black sea sun to warm you makes you feel much younger than your age.

Another nice video of ukrainian heroes showing their true colours.

Remember, geroyam slava!

sepheronx wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:

sepheronx wrote:And your history sucks.  US had them, England had them, etc.  Even a prince of England was pro Nazi just before the war.  Jane Fonda is one for USA.

The US and Britain are allies when it comes to fighting anyone. Although, at one time, Americans did fight alongside French against English. Ukrainians are allying with the US to kill their slavic brothers. This is total nation crime. As for Edward VIII, he was a native German speaker.

Like i said, Jane Fonda is one.  Many call her a traitor and still do.  Plenty others like her.  How about snowden?  He is considered a traitor.  Then there is the crap actually going on in USA right now: Mass shootings and police killing 2 people per day since start of 2015.  And those are Americans killing Americans.

JohninMK wrote:[i]Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko may need the support of the far-right Right Sector group to resolve the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Janusz Korwin-Mikke, a member of the EU parliament from Poland, told Sputnik on Monday, citing Ukrainian officials.

"It seems to me that Petro Poroshenko tries to restore an order in Ukraine. I wish him good luck with that, it will not be an easy task. I talked to the Ukrainian officials in the European parliament and they clearly stated that they need Right Sector as a support for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Eastern Ukraine, so they don’t want to fight Right Sector in Zakarpattia," Korwin-Mikke said in an interview.

Rodinazombie wrote:
Im only a mere 29 year old, but even i remember the days where US diplocmacy, even if still morally questionable, was very classy and smooth. They did things the right way without people noticing or giving em reason to feel slighted or get their backs up.

Now, its like they have a list of how not to do it, and orders to do the exact opposite of that.

TASS wrote:Donetsk surprised at OSCE’s unwillingness to confirm withdrawal of DPR, LPR weapons
World July 21, 8:17 UTC+3

The self-proclaimed Donetsk republic plans to fully complete the withdrawal of weapons of calibre less than 100mm from the line of engagement on Tuesday, July 21

MOSCOW, July 20. /TASS/. The self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) is surprised to hear that the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) is not ready to confirm DPR’s withdrawal of weapons of a caliber less than 100mm from the kine of engagement, Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the DPR defense ministry said on Monday.

"Like deputy chief monitor of the OSCE special monitoring mission to Ukraine Alexander Hug, we are no less interested in symmetrical withdrawal of Ukrainian armoured vehicles from the line of engagement," he said in a statement. "But it looks strange to say ‘we observed the withdrawal of DPR and LPR weapons from the line of contact,’ but ‘we cannot confirm it.’"

"To report a withdrawal of weapons from a particular place one should observe and confirm its absence in a three-kilometre strip off the line of engagement," Basurin stressed.

"This is what the leaders of the two republics said, and we are implementing this decision in the presence of OSCE monitors," he said. "So, here is the question: what representatives of this organization came to our positions on these days for? To enjoy the sight of armoured vehicles moving over irregular terrain?"

"If OSCE representatives are really interested in the soonest establishment of peace, we would like them to be that scrupulous in respect of those who is doing nothing at all to demilitarize the engagement line," he added. Continue reading.

ИБ "Пятнашка" wrote:Obstrel.05 Morning: 50 am. Donetsk. 21/07/15