The Situation in the Ukraine. #18

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
NAF definitely looking and acting more and more like a professional fighting force with each passing day. They have definitely made a lot of ground on bringing up the quality of their soldiers. Voentorg has definitely been busy. Still there is work that needs to be done. However, it would have been hard to tell some of these guys apart from the Russian Army a decade ago.

Thanks for posting some quality content on here Flagship. You derserve my +1. Bet it feels good no longer being the public enemy number one here anymore.

I'll keep an eye on him, mayhap he can redeem himself in my eyes. If so I'll take him off the ignore list.

We have opportunity to speak to some of the wounded sent here for treatment and some of our boys come home for R&R when events allow, and I must admit there has been quite the change in the soldiers this year. I am very impressed with them, not only in their advanced skills in warcraft but their general demeanor has changed, subtle but a change. Professional is the word for most. We had an event  a week ago this past Friday and our boys did their duty as well as the Desantniki involved. I would say Novorossiya now has a proper professional, and all volunteer, Army.

Usually as soon as Flagship stops post news is when he goes full retard. Just an observation.

Pretty interesting observation of the NAF there that none of us really have the opportunity to make Auslander. I know enough about the current Russian Military myself through serving relatives and some exposure to say they are some of the best soldiers out there. On par with the US, which despite its sh!tty politicians has a very well trained military filled with great people. Seeing that you can compare them to the Russian Military is high praise indeed.

Incidentally. there is a quote that a legendary American Civil War Confederate general named Stonewall Jackson. For those unfamiliar with American history, the situation that the Confederates were in had a lot of ideological parallels with the Novorossiyan Rebels today. Jackson said, "The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth."

auslander wrote:There are many parallels between Novorossiya and The Confederate States of America, ...

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
NAF definitely looking and acting more and more like a professional fighting force with each passing day. They have definitely made a lot of ground on bringing up the quality of their soldiers. Voentorg has definitely been busy. Still there is work that needs to be done. However, it would have been hard to tell some of these guys apart from the Russian Army a decade ago.

Thanks for posting some quality content on here Flagship. You derserve my +1. Bet it feels good no longer being the public enemy number one here anymore.

I'll keep an eye on him, mayhap he can redeem himself in my eyes. If so I'll take him off the ignore list.

We have opportunity to speak to some of the wounded sent here for treatment and some of our boys come home for R&R when events allow, and I must admit there has been quite the change in the soldiers this year. I am very impressed with them, not only in their advanced skills in warcraft but their general demeanor has changed, subtle but a change. Professional is the word for most. We had an event  a week ago this past Friday and our boys did their duty as well as the Desantniki involved. I would say Novorossiya now has a proper professional, and all volunteer, Army.

Usually as soon as Flagship stops post news is when he goes full retard. Just an observation.

Pretty interesting observation of the NAF there that none of us really have the opportunity to make Auslander. I know enough about the current Russian Military myself through serving relatives and some exposure to say they are some of the best soldiers out there. On par with the US, which despite its sh!tty politicians has a very well trained military filled with great people. Seeing that you can compare them to the Russian Military is high praise indeed.

Incidentally. there is a quote that a legendary American Civil War Confederate general named Stonewall Jackson. For those unfamiliar with American history, the situation that the Confederates were in had a lot of ideological parallels with the Novorossiyan Rebels today. Jackson said, "The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth."

There are many parallels between Novorossiya and The Confederate States of America, right down to the main issue, federalization. If you read the period documents and writings of the participants you will understand that the war was not over slavery, it was state's rights versus National Government. Being from the very deep south I am well aware of what happened back then and I know of Lieutenant General T.J. Jackson. What the Yankees teach as The American Civil War we call and were taught about The War of Northern Aggression. When I first saw the Flag of Novorossiya I immediately showed my wife the flag and showed her the CSA Battle Flag. She simply smiled and said 'This time they won't lose'.

We often have interaction with both RF soldiers and NAF soldiers. A year ago, although I said nothing to anyone, I did not think our boys would win. I knew we here were safe behind the sword and shield of Russian Army but I feared very much for the outcome up north. Today those fears are long gone, I see virtually no difference between NAF and RAF soldiers now. I am suitably impressed with not only their vastly improved combat skills but also their demeanor with civilians and veterans, in other words like soldiers of RAF our boys with NAF exude a confidence that is palpable, not arrogance but confidence, confidence in their abilities and confidence for the end result of the war. Make no mistake, this war will last quite some time and we will lose a lot of good men and women and a lot of civilians, but in the end we will have victory.

 

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
NAF definitely looking and acting more and more like a professional fighting force with each passing day. They have definitely made a lot of ground on bringing up the quality of their soldiers. Voentorg has definitely been busy. Still there is work that needs to be done. However, it would have been hard to tell some of these guys apart from the Russian Army a decade ago.

Thanks for posting some quality content on here Flagship. You derserve my +1. Bet it feels good no longer being the public enemy number one here anymore.

I'll keep an eye on him, mayhap he can redeem himself in my eyes. If so I'll take him off the ignore list.

We have opportunity to speak to some of the wounded sent here for treatment and some of our boys come home for R&R when events allow, and I must admit there has been quite the change in the soldiers this year. I am very impressed with them, not only in their advanced skills in warcraft but their general demeanor has changed, subtle but a change. Professional is the word for most. We had an event  a week ago this past Friday and our boys did their duty as well as the Desantniki involved. I would say Novorossiya now has a proper professional, and all volunteer, Army.

Usually as soon as Flagship stops post news is when he goes full retard. Just an observation.

Pretty interesting observation of the NAF there that none of us really have the opportunity to make Auslander. I know enough about the current Russian Military myself through serving relatives and some exposure to say they are some of the best soldiers out there. On par with the US, which despite its sh!tty politicians has a very well trained military filled with great people. Seeing that you can compare them to the Russian Military is high praise indeed.

Incidentally. there is a quote that a legendary American Civil War Confederate general named Stonewall Jackson. For those unfamiliar with American history, the situation that the Confederates were in had a lot of ideological parallels with the Novorossiyan Rebels today. Jackson said, "The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth."

There are many parallels between Novorossiya and The Confederate States of America, right down to the main issue, federalization. If you read the period documents and writings of the participants you will understand that the war was not over slavery, it was state's rights versus National Government. Being from the very deep south I am well aware of what happened back then and I know of Lieutenant General T.J. Jackson. What the Yankees teach as The American Civil War we call and were taught about The War of Northern Aggression. When I first saw the Flag of Novorossiya I immediately showed my wife the flag and showed her the CSA Battle Flag. She simply smiled and said 'This time they won't lose'.

We often have interaction with both RF soldiers and NAF soldiers. A year ago, although I said nothing to anyone, I did not think our boys would win. I knew we here were safe behind the sword and shield of Russian Army but I feared very much for the outcome up north. Today those fears are long gone, I see virtually no difference between NAF and RAF soldiers now. I am suitably impressed with not only their vastly improved combat skills but also their demeanor with civilians and veterans, in other words like soldiers of RAF our boys with NAF exude a confidence that is palpable, not arrogance but confidence, confidence in their abilities and confidence for the end result of the war. Make no mistake, this war will last quite some time and we will lose a lot of good men and women and a lot of civilians, but in the end we will have victory.

 

Didn't know you were from the South, Auslander

Novorossiya started off worse than the CSA did in their respective wars for independence in a way. Both were heavily outnumbered and outgunned by their respective unions, but the rebels in the CSA were organized more quickly and their commanders were far superior to the Union. Meanwhile, the only commander that was a good tactician and was consistently winning his fights was Strelkov. As the war went on, the good commanders disappeared from both the NAF and the CSA Army and both sides started to lose. Both fledgling countries needed assistance from a military power to survive. The British chose not to get involved, while Russia didn't abandon Novorossiya. The rest is history now.

So you think as long as the NAF is under the care and watchful eye of the RF, they will be fine? Like no longer will the wind need to blow?

TV Zvezda via Google Translate wrote:Ополченцы отремонтировали оставшуюся от силовиков РСЗО «Ураган»
Militias repaired the rest of the security forces MLRS "Hurricane"
July 26, 2015, 13:55

Ukrainian militia repair technique thrown Ukrainian security officials. So, on the alert to the militias soon intercede updated MLRS "Hurricane."

Repair Service BC New Russia continues to restore previously seized Ukrainian technique.

Meanwhile, from the Sand APU incendiary shells fired at the village of Oktyabrsky. Shoot from the Artemovsk towards Gorlovka reportedly militia heard howitzers. And from Avdeevka disappeared "Right Sector".
It is expected that Ukrainian security forces are preparing MLRS barrage of howitzers and the north of Donetsk.

Near the village of Lugansk in the city at night was mortar fire from Makaravo it noted that, probably fired from the positions of the terrorist battalion "Chernigov".

Video: Summary of the militia of New Russia / VKContinue to Video.

whir wrote:

TV Zvezda via Google Translate wrote:Ополченцы отремонтировали оставшуюся от силовиков РСЗО «Ураган»
Militias repaired the rest of the security forces MLRS "Hurricane"
July 26, 2015, 13:55

Ukrainian militia repair technique thrown Ukrainian security officials. So, on the alert to the militias soon intercede updated MLRS "Hurricane."

Repair Service BC New Russia continues to restore previously seized Ukrainian technique.

Meanwhile, from the Sand APU incendiary shells fired at the village of Oktyabrsky. Shoot from the Artemovsk towards Gorlovka reportedly militia heard howitzers. And from Avdeevka disappeared "Right Sector".
It is expected that Ukrainian security forces are preparing MLRS barrage of howitzers and the north of Donetsk.

Near the village of Lugansk in the city at night was mortar fire from Makaravo it noted that, probably fired from the positions of the terrorist battalion "Chernigov".

Video: Summary of the militia of New Russia / VKContinue to Video.

auslander wrote:
There are many parallels between Novorossiya and The Confederate States of America, right down to the main issue, federalization. If you read the period documents and writings of the participants you will understand that the war was not over slavery, it was state's rights versus National Government. Being from the very deep south I am well aware of what happened back then and I know of Lieutenant General T.J. Jackson. What the Yankees teach as The American Civil War we call and were taught about The War of Northern Aggression. When I first saw the Flag of Novorossiya I immediately showed my wife the flag and showed her the CSA Battle Flag. She simply smiled and said 'This time they won't lose'.

We often have interaction with both RF soldiers and NAF soldiers. A year ago, although I said nothing to anyone, I did not think our boys would win. I knew we here were safe behind the sword and shield of Russian Army but I feared very much for the outcome up north. Today those fears are long gone, I see virtually no difference between NAF and RAF soldiers now. I am suitably impressed with not only their vastly improved combat skills but also their demeanor with civilians and veterans, in other words like soldiers of RAF our boys with NAF exude a confidence that is palpable, not arrogance but confidence, confidence in their abilities and confidence for the end result of the war. Make no mistake, this war will last quite some time and we will lose a lot of good men and women and a lot of civilians, but in the end we will have victory.

 

JohninMK wrote:What's up?

MOSCOW, July 26. /TASS/. Over the past night Ukraine’s Donetsk did not register a shelling, the city’s heads of district administrations told the Donetsk News Agency on Sunday.

"We did not fix any shelling last night," press service of the Kuibyshev district said. "In our district, the night was quiet; there is no information about shelling, destroying or victims," administration of the Kiev district said.

The Petrov region near the front line was not shelled, either. Local authorities say the quiet situation continues in Donetsk.

Neutrality wrote:So are we supposed to feel sorry for that singer? He got what he was he looking for in a place where only one thing is to be found (eventually).

JohninMK wrote:This is weird, they stop a truck apparently going into Russia with ammo! Should have sped it on its way, unless they needed it for themselves.


DONETSK, July 26. /TASS/. Defence Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) does not have any information Ukrainian border guard stopped a KAMAZ truck loaded with ammunition, the ministry’s representative Eduard Basurin told reporters on Sunday. "I know nothing about it," he said. "Ukraine keeps making statements of the kind to have reasons to accuse Russia afterwards."

"Ukraine’s Security Service once again is trying to accuse Russia of a military presence in Donbass," the Donetsk News Agency quoted a representative of the DPR’s military authority. "This time they have stopped a KAMAZ with ammunition. As yet, they have not presented proofs of that, apart from the claims and weird pictures of boxes with ammunition. How could they identify the so-called major? Did he have a military ID issued by the DPR? The very presence of a Russian military accompanying a shipment of ammunition by the front line causes irony only."

Earlier on Sunday, Ukraine’s border guard said they stopped at the Berezovoye crossing station in the Donetsk region a KAMAZ truck loaded with ammunition and two military, one of which "said he was a Russian Major." The border guard said the truck had arrived from Olenevka, which is controlled by the militia.

Later on, speaker of the Ukrainian presidential administration on the punitive mission in Donbass Alexander Motuzyanik said they were identifying the detained men. "One of them said he was a professional military of the Russian Armed Forces, a Major, and we are still to identify him, as who knows what he could say about himself," the speaker said.

kvs wrote:https://www.lewrockwell.com/2008/01/thomas-dilorenzo/speaking-truth-to-the-lincoln-cult/

There is way too much mythology about the Great Emancipation and the Great Emancipator.

The Civil War in the US was about power and resources.   It was not some human rights crusade.

BKP wrote:Nevertheless, the south was standing in the way of the trend of history, which is that slavery was rightly on it's way out. Who the hell should feel that they have "right" to own another human being like a chattel animal? It is an outrageous idea, and I do take issue with anyone who supports it. Those apes would've dragged that evil institution right into the 20th century if they had their way.

whir wrote:The problem is that it wasn't neither outrageous nor evil back in the day, and only started to become a political issue when the cost between free and slavery labor started to distance itself thanks to mechanisation. But it wasn't until much later, and only after decades of failed proselytism, when other catholic confessions started to position themselves against slavery trying to emulate the evangelisation efforts of catholic church that it become a moral issue from them. The humanistic approach was far from mainstream.

JohninMK wrote:This is weird, they stop a truck apparently going into Russia with ammo! Should have sped it on its way, unless they needed it for themselves.


DONETSK, July 26. /TASS/. Defence Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) does not have any information Ukrainian border guard stopped a KAMAZ truck loaded with ammunition, the ministry’s representative Eduard Basurin told reporters on Sunday. "I know nothing about it," he said. "Ukraine keeps making statements of the kind to have reasons to accuse Russia afterwards."

"Ukraine’s Security Service once again is trying to accuse Russia of a military presence in Donbass," the Donetsk News Agency quoted a representative of the DPR’s military authority. "This time they have stopped a KAMAZ with ammunition. As yet, they have not presented proofs of that, apart from the claims and weird pictures of boxes with ammunition. How could they identify the so-called major? Did he have a military ID issued by the DPR? The very presence of a Russian military accompanying a shipment of ammunition by the front line causes irony only."

Earlier on Sunday, Ukraine’s border guard said they stopped at the Berezovoye crossing station in the Donetsk region a KAMAZ truck loaded with ammunition and two military, one of which "said he was a Russian Major." The border guard said the truck had arrived from Olenevka, which is controlled by the militia.

Later on, speaker of the Ukrainian presidential administration on the punitive mission in Donbass Alexander Motuzyanik said they were identifying the detained men. "One of them said he was a professional military of the Russian Armed Forces, a Major, and we are still to identify him, as who knows what he could say about himself," the speaker said.

Erk wrote:

JohninMK wrote:This is weird, they stop a truck apparently going into Russia with ammo! Should have sped it on its way, unless they needed it for themselves.


DONETSK, July 26. /TASS/. Defence Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) does not have any information Ukrainian border guard stopped a KAMAZ truck loaded with ammunition, the ministry’s representative Eduard Basurin told reporters on Sunday. "I know nothing about it," he said. "Ukraine keeps making statements of the kind to have reasons to accuse Russia afterwards."

"Ukraine’s Security Service once again is trying to accuse Russia of a military presence in Donbass," the Donetsk News Agency quoted a representative of the DPR’s military authority. "This time they have stopped a KAMAZ with ammunition. As yet, they have not presented proofs of that, apart from the claims and weird pictures of boxes with ammunition. How could they identify the so-called major? Did he have a military ID issued by the DPR? The very presence of a Russian military accompanying a shipment of ammunition by the front line causes irony only."

Earlier on Sunday, Ukraine’s border guard said they stopped at the Berezovoye crossing station in the Donetsk region a KAMAZ truck loaded with ammunition and two military, one of which "said he was a Russian Major." The border guard said the truck had arrived from Olenevka, which is controlled by the militia.

Later on, speaker of the Ukrainian presidential administration on the punitive mission in Donbass Alexander Motuzyanik said they were identifying the detained men. "One of them said he was a professional military of the Russian Armed Forces, a Major, and we are still to identify him, as who knows what he could say about himself," the speaker said.

Why would a truck filled with ammo going in either direction, choose to cross at a UAF controlled checkpoint? Unless it actually wanted to be caught.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

Neutrality wrote:So are we supposed to feel sorry for that singer? He got what he was he looking for in a place where only one thing is to be found (eventually).

I wasn't posted about the singer, didn't read it -- I was posting about Ukrainians getting killed

& Right Sector leaving.

& wondering why they left? because people was getting killed, or some other reason?