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auslander wrote:Khepesh wrote:Donetsk, Kievsky tonight https://vk.com/video34693578_172642435
28 impacts in 89 seconds. Time to dig OCSE out of their comfortable hotel and stick them in Gorlovka, sans helmets and vests.
The uploader said it got worse and rolling away further west and south. That is the view from his balcony looking generally towards Peski, and there was Grad as well over Kuibishevsky direction. military maps don't show that, but they are showing what happens in the Marinka area and rolling into Petrovsky.auslander wrote:
28 impacts in 89 seconds. Time to dig OCSE out of their comfortable hotel and stick them in Gorlovka, sans helmets and vests.
Agree and thanks, I was looking for a deeper Russian military meaning than that. I wonder if that's why it was on that 'military SUV', some kind of virtual stealth cloak.auslander wrote:Khepesh wrote:When you click on a link and the site does not exist you get an error 404. On some Russian sites the name Ukraine is hardly used, only "country 404"JohninMK wrote:
Khepesh, what is the significance of the 404 you ringed on that last photo?
Excellent thought. In future I may use that.
As you obviously don't have Google access over there, try this, you could probably get a job with them.Flagship Victory wrote:auslander wrote:Khepesh wrote:Donetsk, Kievsky tonight https://vk.com/video34693578_172642435
28 impacts in 89 seconds. Time to dig OCSE out of their comfortable hotel and stick them in Gorlovka, sans helmets and vests.
Which countries are OSCE from? Their head that Hug guy is Swedish if I'm not mistaken.
Godric wrote:how much mechanised units are in service with the Hahols .. when I mean units I mean how many Tanks, APCs, IFVs etc are in operable condition ... I haven't seen them use T-80s yet ... the video that I did see of them trying to service T-80's they looked in very bad shape
franco wrote:This is what the NAF was estimating June 1st. There are more men and units since. I would say at least another 60 tanks.
According to the NAF, the Ukrainians have built up to the following force level in the Donbas.
"Kiev authorities continue to build missile base troops in the area of the demilitarized zone. According to our intelligence, its composition has already 36 battalion tactical groups, 20 separate infantry battalions, two battalions of special purpose and 3 reconnaissance battalion, - quoted him as saying Donetsk news agency. - In the area of punitive action adversary concentrated to 45 thousand troops, 380 tanks, 1,800 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, 980 field artillery pieces and MLRS, and up to 75 combat aircraft and helicopters. "
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fitar-tass.com%2Farmiya-i-vpk&sandbox=1
franco wrote:Godric wrote:how much mechanised units are in service with the Hahols .. when I mean units I mean how many Tanks, APCs, IFVs etc are in operable condition ... I haven't seen them use T-80s yet ... the video that I did see of them trying to service T-80's they looked in very bad shape
This is what the NAF was estimating June 1st. There are more men and units since. I would say at least another 60 tanks.
According to the NAF, the Ukrainians have built up to the following force level in the Donbas.
"Kiev authorities continue to build missile base troops in the area of the demilitarized zone. According to our intelligence, its composition has already 36 battalion tactical groups, 20 separate infantry battalions, two battalions of special purpose and 3 reconnaissance battalion, - quoted him as saying Donetsk news agency. - In the area of punitive action adversary concentrated to 45 thousand troops, 380 tanks, 1,800 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, 980 field artillery pieces and MLRS, and up to 75 combat aircraft and helicopters. "
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fitar-tass.com%2Farmiya-i-vpk&sandbox=1
KoTeMoRe wrote:franco wrote:Godric wrote:how much mechanised units are in service with the Hahols .. when I mean units I mean how many Tanks, APCs, IFVs etc are in operable condition ... I haven't seen them use T-80s yet ... the video that I did see of them trying to service T-80's they looked in very bad shape
This is what the NAF was estimating June 1st. There are more men and units since. I would say at least another 60 tanks.
According to the NAF, the Ukrainians have built up to the following force level in the Donbas.
"Kiev authorities continue to build missile base troops in the area of the demilitarized zone. According to our intelligence, its composition has already 36 battalion tactical groups, 20 separate infantry battalions, two battalions of special purpose and 3 reconnaissance battalion, - quoted him as saying Donetsk news agency. - In the area of punitive action adversary concentrated to 45 thousand troops, 380 tanks, 1,800 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, 980 field artillery pieces and MLRS, and up to 75 combat aircraft and helicopters. "
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fitar-tass.com%2Farmiya-i-vpk&sandbox=1
There aren't 75 operable combat aircraft (largo sensu) within Ukraine. Guys what ever you think of UA, the reality is far more dire.
They started digging out real museum pieces to equip their Fencers. With all the time they've had they've refurbished 8 Flankers to late 1990's level. It's appalling.
For the rest it's even worse. On the roughly 200 "new" BMP's they had for Debal time in the AO about a quarter had Afghanistan-era radios. Most of them had barely functional sighting devices...
ExBeobachter1987 wrote:
How do you know that Kiev's forces use so much old equipment?
I like to think that they depend on hardware that belongs in a museum, but I want it to be grounded in reality.
KoTeMoRe wrote:franco wrote:Godric wrote:how much mechanised units are in service with the Hahols .. when I mean units I mean how many Tanks, APCs, IFVs etc are in operable condition ... I haven't seen them use T-80s yet ... the video that I did see of them trying to service T-80's they looked in very bad shape
This is what the NAF was estimating June 1st. There are more men and units since. I would say at least another 60 tanks.
According to the NAF, the Ukrainians have built up to the following force level in the Donbas.
"Kiev authorities continue to build missile base troops in the area of the demilitarized zone. According to our intelligence, its composition has already 36 battalion tactical groups, 20 separate infantry battalions, two battalions of special purpose and 3 reconnaissance battalion, - quoted him as saying Donetsk news agency. - In the area of punitive action adversary concentrated to 45 thousand troops, 380 tanks, 1,800 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, 980 field artillery pieces and MLRS, and up to 75 combat aircraft and helicopters. "
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fitar-tass.com%2Farmiya-i-vpk&sandbox=1
There aren't 75 operable combat aircraft (largo sensu) within Ukraine. Guys what ever you think of UA, the reality is far more dire.
They started digging out real museum pieces to equip their Fencers. With all the time they've had they've refurbished 8 Flankers to late 1990's level. It's appalling.
For the rest it's even worse. On the roughly 200 "new" BMP's they had for Debal time in the AO about a quarter had Afghanistan-era radios. Most of them had barely functional sighting devices...
Flagship Victory wrote:
Insane. Barbarossa 2 in the making.
) for a period of about 10 days (the official figure). The Russians even executed generals who did not facilitate or, even worse, took action against the "Nazi advance" ( ).
JohninMK wrote:Yandex translatehigurashihougi wrote:@Khepesh: +1 for the info
BTW... Kaboom ! http://infopolk.ru/1/W/news/1439500778#6c945777-f0d6-4201-b042-84104abba344
East of Donetsk, according to preliminary information around n Pokrovskoe, drunken APU soldiers were unloading ammunition brought in. As a result of careless handling of explosive hazards detonation occurred. Losses of Ukrainian soldiers is unknown, but the glow from the gaps seen for many miles.
Readers of PB in Kostyantynivka also watched the glow from the huge fire.
Also reported a similar night incident in occupied APU n of zaytsevo, Artemovsky district, near Gorlovka.
Flagship Victory wrote:forbes article on recent declines of Russia and Ukraine economies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/08/14/time-is-not-on-ukraines-side/
Dforce wrote:Flagship Victory wrote:forbes article on recent declines of Russia and Ukraine economies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/08/14/time-is-not-on-ukraines-side/
Wonder why he did not mention Q2 2015?
Dforce wrote:Flagship Victory wrote:forbes article on recent declines of Russia and Ukraine economies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/08/14/time-is-not-on-ukraines-side/
Wonder why he did not mention Q2 2015?
Flagship Victory wrote:forbes article on recent declines of Russia and Ukraine economies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/08/14/time-is-not-on-ukraines-side/
Anyone can see that the Russian government is doing everything in its considerable power to inflict the maximum possible damage on Ukraine’s economy. It seems obvious that most of what has happened is in no way the “fault” of the new government in Kiev and that responsibility for the cataclysm now roiling the country rightly lies with the Kremlin.
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