Maybe you don't understand how this stuff works but essentially it was a whole different plant that made Bulava vs Sineva. The company never made submarine launched missiles before. While it had a shoddy start, it is shaping to be a real awesome missile. And like all programs, it requires time, patience and effort (tests) to make sure it works.
Bulava was a rather significant step in technology, so of course there would be problems... they could eliminate the problems by just making a generic non ambitious weapon... the equivalent of them cancelling the Lider and just making some more Sovremmenys with better propulsion.
It would be the same for the Lada class... just cancel and make more Kilos... except that would result in a huge drop in performance because not only are the Ladas a real step forward in performance... now that their problems are sorted out some of the new systems and technology can now be added to upgrades to Kilos to improve their performance too.
A bit like the new missiles for the MiG-29s and Su-27s could be added to MiG-23s and MiG-21s to improve their performance...
Perhaps you should check the history to learn that it had three shoddy starts and three happy "ends". Twice already after accepting the missile in service, new problems appeared. If you solve one problem only to find another it's sometimes better to abort the project. Which is what happened with some derivatives of Bulava, like R-45 and R-47.
Perhaps it all depends on what you mean by development... If you think a new system is developed buy making a test model and firing it and then if it fails randomly picking some change that might fix the problem and then applying that to a new test model and testing it.... then yes... scrap the whole programme and start again... because that will fix any problem their might have been... NOT.
Testing programmes generally examine results and test data to determine what went wrong and then fix that problem and test again.
And it is not just for the missile itself... it needs to be tested in the launch platform and in the environments it will likely be used in as well.
Of course certain fixes might result in other problems surfacing.... but that is hardly a reason to give up development.
A lot of money and time has been invested in this weapon system and it would be bloody stupid to give up now and start from scratch... even just for the reason that that would mean no SLBMs in Russia for the next 10 years while a new missile is developed.
Only time will show if all the problems are solved. If that's the case, we can probably expect launches also from Nevsky and Monomakh. Until then, claims that Boreys might not carry any missiles, because they are still running tests, are legitimate doubts.
They have two Borei class subs in service. You are claiming they are not launching missiles because they can't... if they can't launch missiles WTF would they be buying more for?
Why keep sending them on patrol?
How can you prove any Trident carrying sub in the west actually has any missiles on board... they don't actually launch any either.
Next time you are near a Russian soldier go up and punch him in the face... it will tell you if his gun is loaded or not.
Publishing such criticisms and putting pressure on Ru MoD is a great way to have them prove everything's ok.
Publishing bullshit plays into the hands of western trolls who will republish the original biased bullshit, and ignore any rebuttals the MOD might publish in response.
People like you (new members with nothing smart to say and very limited in knowledge) love to jump into a forum, and spread whatever nonsense they want. I heard it all. Borei's that carry no missiles, PAK FA that has no internal weapons Bay, No Stealth, Armata with no thermals, etc. You lots make it sound like Russia is completely, 100% incompetent and has no ability to do anything. Even though there are videos and proof of their development and capabilities, you guys believe in whatever little nonsense that some "professional" writes. Doesn't matter if they cannot back up their claim with any evidence of their own. Oh no. It just means they are correct and the videos/photos and everything else is wrong.
Give me a break.
I have come across people who claim the Soviets didn't shoot down any German aircraft because there is no gun camera footage to prove it... would be amusing if it wasn't so sad and disrespectful.
It doesn't mean that info is accurate regardless of source's independence
I am not paid by western or Russian governments so I must be independent too...
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