The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

JohninMK wrote:Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

Ukrainian people should know now who is their friend and who is their foe.

See a problem here lol?

magnumcromagnon wrote:See a problem here lol?

Do you have a link to the tweet?

Porko has outdone even in Erdogan in vanity PR moves it seems.

Loool

flamming_python wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:See a problem here lol?

Do you have a link to the tweet?

Porko has outdone even in Erdogan in vanity PR moves it seems.

Anatoly Sharii confirmed that the tweet was deleted.

Militarov wrote:

Loool

what does it say ??

flamming_python wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:See a problem here lol?

Do you have a link to the tweet?

Porko has outdone even in Erdogan in vanity PR moves it seems.

Actually Portopottyshenko and Turdogan are neck-and-neck in competition on who could be the worlds most famous egotistical-narcissist scum bag. From 2014 to mid-2015, Whore-o-shenko held the title but Inept-Turdogan has seriously challenged him. BTW Turdogan just recently praised and admired Hitler's micromanagement of Nazi Germany, so now those two dolts are competing between each other on who could be the bigger fascist. Then again no one should be surprised Turdogan is a fascist, because a) he's a Grey Wolf, and b) his AKP party is a Turkish branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the same Muslim Brotherhood that allied with Hitler and Mussolini during WW2.

Godric wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Loool

what does it say ??

Assume it is someone in Ukraine bleating that Coke now includes Crimea in Russia and how dare they, don't they know it is Ukrainian?

JohninMK wrote:

Godric wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Loool

what does it say ??

Assume it is someone in Ukraine bleating that Coke now includes Crimea in Russia and how dare they, don't they know it is Ukrainian?

Cheers ...... in their dreams dumb HaHols .... Crimea will always be Russian

JohninMK wrote:Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

I wonder if those ukro nuts on the border, which cut electricity lines to Crimea, will also cut gas pipelines from Crimea?

medo wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

I wonder if those ukro nuts on the border, which cut electricity lines to Crimea, will also cut gas pipelines from Crimea?

A completely different view from Naftogas today.

The town of Henichesk in Ukraine's Kherson region consumes gas solely from the Strilkove deposit, located near Arabatska Strilka in Kherson region, national NJSC Naftogaz Ukrainy said in a press release on Tuesday. "Russian gas has not been shipped to Henichesk and is not being shipped now," it said. Henichesk is not physically connected to other sections of mainland Ukraine's gas transportation system, it said.

"In summer, gas extracted at the Strilkove field is delivered to households in the town. An excess of the gas extracted in summer, which has not been used by residents of Henichesk, is pumped into the Hlibovske underground storage facility, located in temporarily occupied Crimea for storage. In winter, that Ukrainian gas is taken from this underground storage facility and shipped to Henichesk to cover peak consumption levels," Naftogaz said.

The Ukrainian energy company also reported that, starting from January 1, 2016, Crimea's de facto authorities had been blocking the Kherson gas stored in the Hlibovske facility in Crimea for four days. "These gas volumes are more than enough to meet the town's needs until the end of the heating season," it said. According to Naftogaz, Henichesk consumed 9.2 million cubic meters of gas in 2014. The Strilkove deposit's maximum gas output capacity is 25 million cubic meters a year. Ukraine's privately owned gas production company Plast has been the field's operator since March 2014.

The website of the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Service's main department in Kherson region reported that at 21:30 local time on January 4, pressure in the Strilkove deposit's gas pipeline started to grow due to the reverse supply of gas. Personnel of PJSC Khersongaz's Henichesk division used the Internet, the local radio and posters at the entrance of residential buildings to inform households that the gas supply would resume at 07:00 local time on Tuesday, January 5.

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/315644.html

So, in another gas related post, Naftogaz believe that, having just seriously jacked up the transit fees, Gazprom will not do as announced and unilaterally stop the supply via Ukraine contract once NordStream 2 is completed.

The retaining of the natural gas transit status by Ukraine mainly depends on the integration of its domestic market with the European one, Board Chairman of national joint-stock company Naftogaz Ukrainy Andriy Kobolev has said. "For our part it is very important to stick to all those European rules we've introduced, are introducing and will introduce regarding the gas market reform. It is very important for us to become part of the European gas market with all its attributes. This concerns transparency, free access, competition, tariffs and the balance between the regulator and market players," he said in an interview with Channel 5 TV broadcasted late on Monday.

"The more we resemble the European gas market, the fewer chances Russians have to over-persuade Europe to stop Ukrainian transit and switch to transit via Nord Stream," Kobolev said.

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/315607.html

JohninMK wrote:

The town of Henichesk in Ukraine's Kherson region consumes gas solely from the Strilkove deposit, located near Arabatska Strilka in Kherson region, national NJSC Naftogaz Ukrainy said in a press release on Tuesday. "Russian gas has not been shipped to Henichesk and is not being shipped now," it said. Henichesk is not physically connected to other sections of mainland Ukraine's gas transportation system, it said.

"In summer, gas extracted at the Strilkove field is delivered to households in the town. An excess of the gas extracted in summer, which has not been used by residents of Henichesk, is pumped into the Hlibovske underground storage facility, located in temporarily occupied Crimea for storage. In winter, that Ukrainian gas is taken from this underground storage facility and shipped to Henichesk to cover peak consumption levels," Naftogaz said.

The Ukrainian energy company also reported that, starting from January 1, 2016, Crimea's de facto authorities had been blocking the Kherson gas stored in the Hlibovske facility in Crimea for four days. "These gas volumes are more than enough to meet the town's needs until the end of the heating season," it said. According to Naftogaz, Henichesk consumed 9.2 million cubic meters of gas in 2014. The Strilkove deposit's maximum gas output capacity is 25 million cubic meters a year. Ukraine's privately owned gas production company Plast has been the field's operator since March 2014.

The website of the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Service's main department in Kherson region reported that at 21:30 local time on January 4, pressure in the Strilkove deposit's gas pipeline started to grow due to the reverse supply of gas. Personnel of PJSC Khersongaz's Henichesk division used the Internet, the local radio and posters at the entrance of residential buildings to inform households that the gas supply would resume at 07:00 local time on Tuesday, January 5.

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/315644.html

The orcs can say what the want, the town is now getting gas from Krim, as far as I know it's free to that town and that town only. Krim has always produced more gas than the peninsula needs and about half the production was sent to Ukraine. The orcs have not bothered to pay for the gas for almost a decade. That little foible ended sometime in mid March 2014 when the gas to orcland was turned off and the excess put in the underground storages.

auslander wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

The town of Henichesk in Ukraine's Kherson region consumes gas solely from the Strilkove deposit, located near Arabatska Strilka in Kherson region, national NJSC Naftogaz Ukrainy said in a press release on Tuesday. "Russian gas has not been shipped to Henichesk and is not being shipped now," it said. Henichesk is not physically connected to other sections of mainland Ukraine's gas transportation system, it said.

"In summer, gas extracted at the Strilkove field is delivered to households in the town. An excess of the gas extracted in summer, which has not been used by residents of Henichesk, is pumped into the Hlibovske underground storage facility, located in temporarily occupied Crimea for storage. In winter, that Ukrainian gas is taken from this underground storage facility and shipped to Henichesk to cover peak consumption levels," Naftogaz said.

The Ukrainian energy company also reported that, starting from January 1, 2016, Crimea's de facto authorities had been blocking the Kherson gas stored in the Hlibovske facility in Crimea for four days. "These gas volumes are more than enough to meet the town's needs until the end of the heating season," it said. According to Naftogaz, Henichesk consumed 9.2 million cubic meters of gas in 2014. The Strilkove deposit's maximum gas output capacity is 25 million cubic meters a year. Ukraine's privately owned gas production company Plast has been the field's operator since March 2014.

The website of the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Service's main department in Kherson region reported that at 21:30 local time on January 4, pressure in the Strilkove deposit's gas pipeline started to grow due to the reverse supply of gas. Personnel of PJSC Khersongaz's Henichesk division used the Internet, the local radio and posters at the entrance of residential buildings to inform households that the gas supply would resume at 07:00 local time on Tuesday, January 5.

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/315644.html

The orcs can say what the want, the town is now getting gas from Krim, as far as I know it's free to that town and that town only. Krim has always produced more gas than the peninsula needs and about half the production was sent to Ukraine. The orcs have not bothered to pay for the gas for almost a decade. That little foible ended sometime in mid March 2014 when the gas to orcland was turned off and the excess put in the underground storages.

So wouldn't it be beneficial for Russia/Crimea to build Natural gas power generating plants? I mean, it would be quite cheaper overall and make use of Crimean gas as well.

sepheronx wrote:
So wouldn't it be beneficial for Russia/Crimea to build Natural gas power generating plants?  I mean, it would be quite cheaper overall and make use of Crimean gas as well.

Construction was started on a huge power plant south of the Black River on the Inkerman 'bypass' in late spring. It progresses well and should be on line by end of next year. At least some bright light decided to put it next to the rail line feeding Balaklava and Southside Sevastopol instead of out in the middle of nowhere up some tiny dirt road. The main road next to it is four lanes and almost across the road from the new plant is a huge and new power transit and transformer station with half a dozen rather massive gas turbine generators built in to it.

Right next to it is a structural metal facility, rather large pieces of metal are there, and on the other side of this fabrik is a large cement factory. Win-win on this deal, or so it seems.

medo wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

I wonder if those ukro nuts on the border, which cut electricity lines to Crimea, will also cut gas pipelines from Crimea?

Would be good if they do.

That way the freezing people in Kherson can blame their own 'government' for cutting them off, and Russia will be able to wipe its hands of the situation and not have to waste gas supplying it to people who turned to it in times of need but did nothing when the illegal coupists came to power a launched a war against their own citizens.

flamming_python wrote:

medo wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

I wonder if those ukro nuts on the border, which cut electricity lines to Crimea, will also cut gas pipelines from Crimea?

Would be good if they do.

That way the freezing people in Kherson can blame their own 'government' for cutting them off, and Russia will be able to wipe its hands of the situation and not have to waste gas supplying it to people who turned to it in times of need but did nothing when the illegal coupists came to power a launched a war against their own citizens.

Actually, they will just believe the propaganda of their precious Kiev regime that the "Russians did it".   Kiev is already claiming that the
gas supplied from Crimea to save the sorry ass of some nearby Banderastan town is all a Russian propaganda hoax.   Unfortunately, Banderastanis
will need a good generation of sitting in their own shit to start to wake up.   But even then, they will just believe in their ludicrous nationalist
fairy tales like some religion.   So the mess will likely last for many generations.

kvs wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

medo wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Bit embarrassing for Kiev, wonder what the media there will say, if anything.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Henichesk Mayor Alexander Tulupov, in view of cold weather conditions in the region, has addressed the Russian side with a request to supply the city with natural gas, in order to keep the residents from freezing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order has been satisfied, the gas began to flow from the territory of Crimea to the Henichesk district of the Kherson region." Earlier on Monday, Peskov said that Putin based on "humanitarian considerations" had instructed to elaborate the possibility of gas supplies to Henichesk to help the city's residents survive in the cold.

Ukraine halted purchases of Russian gas in November, saying that the pricing offered by its European partners was much lower than that offered by Moscow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160104/1032685570/henichesk-gas-supply.html#ixzz3wJVl0PBt

I wonder if those ukro nuts on the border, which cut electricity lines to Crimea, will also cut gas pipelines from Crimea?

Would be good if they do.

That way the freezing people in Kherson can blame their own 'government' for cutting them off, and Russia will be able to wipe its hands of the situation and not have to waste gas supplying it to people who turned to it in times of need but did nothing when the illegal coupists came to power a launched a war against their own citizens.

Actually, they will just believe the propaganda of their precious Kiev regime that the "Russians did it".   Kiev is already claiming that the
gas supplied from Crimea to save the sorry ass of some nearby Banderastan town is all a Russian propaganda hoax.   Unfortunately, Banderastanis
will need a good generation of sitting in their own shit to start to wake up.   But even then, they will just believe in their ludicrous nationalist
fairy tales like some religion.   So the mess will likely last for many generations.

Whatever. Main thing is that we don't waste money propping the Ukrainian population up.
I feel sorry for the good people of whatever that town's name is, but they have to sort this mess out with their illegal government themselves - in fact that's what they should have done before. If their 'elected' government does not want to represent their interests to the point of preventing them from freezing - then it's something for them to take up with their government, I suggest.

But I do see the value of this move for hearts & minds. A little gas, perhaps we can spare. But we can't feed say, an entire region, nor should we.

auslander wrote:

sepheronx wrote:
So wouldn't it be beneficial for Russia/Crimea to build Natural gas power generating plants?  I mean, it would be quite cheaper overall and make use of Crimean gas as well.

Construction was started on a huge power plant south of the Black River on the Inkerman 'bypass' in late spring. It progresses well and should be on line by end of next year. At least some bright light decided to put it next to the rail line feeding Balaklava and Southside Sevastopol instead of out in the middle of nowhere up some tiny dirt road. The main road next to it is four lanes and almost across the road from the new plant is a huge and new power transit and transformer station with half a dozen rather massive gas turbine generators built in to it.

Right next to it is a structural metal facility, rather large pieces of metal are there, and on the other side of this fabrik is a large cement factory. Win-win on this deal, or so it seems.

Do we happen to know the type of generating plant it is? Coal or NATGAS?

sepheronx wrote:

auslander wrote:

sepheronx wrote:
So wouldn't it be beneficial for Russia/Crimea to build Natural gas power generating plants?  I mean, it would be quite cheaper overall and make use of Crimean gas as well.

Construction was started on a huge power plant south of the Black River on the Inkerman 'bypass' in late spring. It progresses well and should be on line by end of next year. At least some bright light decided to put it next to the rail line feeding Balaklava and Southside Sevastopol instead of out in the middle of nowhere up some tiny dirt road. The main road next to it is four lanes and almost across the road from the new plant is a huge and new power transit and transformer station with half a dozen rather massive gas turbine generators built in to it.

Right next to it is a structural metal facility, rather large pieces of metal are there, and on the other side of this fabrik is a large cement factory. Win-win on this deal, or so it seems.

Do we happen to know the type of generating plant it is? Coal or NATGAS?

If it is next to the (I think they are temporary) gas powered generators and given that gas plant is cheaper and faster to construct it is probable that it is gas. Also coal would have to be imported via the rail line and seems to be regarded as yesterday's fuel.

German main stream media having a go

A lot of Ukrainian citizens understand that the worst for their country is yet to come. The current government which is on the brink of collapse will not be able to reform the country's "rotten system", Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung wrote. It is unlikely that Ukraine will be able to come out from the current crisis. The government is stuck in internal squabbles, while the country is being run by oligarchs, the newspaper reported. The domestic situation is unlikely to improve and many do not believe that the Kiev authorities will survive the next few months.

According to the newspaper, the Euromaidan protests have not brought the desired results. Former President Viktor Yanukovych, who was blamed for the whole crisis in the country, fled away, but the country was left with its "dirty" system. The oligarchs continue to gain strength and finance private armies. The unpopular Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk is being regularly accused of cooperating with criminal structures and speculators, the article said.

According to FAZ, the principle of peaceful settlement of the conflict lasted only one year, until the country again submerged into a political chaos. "Many citizens who were protesting on the Maidan Square and calling for the country's reforms fear that everything may end up in the same way as after the Orange Revolution of 2004 and that the country will be stuck 'in the swamp of the old rotten system'," the newspaper wrote. The worst is yet to come for Ukraine, and political instability is the last thing the country needs in the current situation. Its economy, which is completely dependent on the external help declined in 2015 by 10 percent, FAZ wrote.

According to the newspaper, the West should increase the pressure on Kiev and force it to intensify its fight against corruption. Otherwise, the money will disappear in the pockets of corrupt officials while the whole country's system will further move to the brink of collapse.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160106/1032750744/ukraine-corruption.html#ixzz3wTXyaD6b

The plant will be natural gas. The gas turbine generators across the road are not temporary, they were installed in permanent positions fall of 2014 as emergency power supply for various city facilities. Interestingly, for the first four days of the power cutoff they were not working, we had to drive past that facility each of those first days.

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