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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #23

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:18 pm

    From http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/02/a-common-ukrainian-asks-why-do-we-live.html

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    Post  auslander Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:29 pm

    Khepesh wrote:Auslander, I do not doubt it is coming.

    Since various updates/briefings, now reports of ukrop tanks firing into Kuibishevsky from Peski, this is a new attack and not the one that destroyed two houses earlier in the evening, and of incoming at Kievsky. Nothing that wasn't routine up until last September.....

    I agree and this mess is going to get very ugly and is being coordinated with the goat screw in Syria.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:15 pm

    Why can't Russia just hit Lvov with ballistic missiles the next time Ukraine attacks Donbass and say "screw you".
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    Post  auslander Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:31 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Why can't Russia just hit Lvov with ballistic missiles the next time Ukraine attacks Donbass and say "screw you".

    Such a statement shows exactly how deeply you and your other four personalities are lacking in any ability whatsoever to have the two cells rocketing around in your cranial vacuum come close enough to each other to form a static charge and generate a cognizant thought.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:34 pm

    Khepesh wrote:Auslander, I do not doubt it is coming.

    Since various updates/briefings, now reports of ukrop tanks firing into Kuibishevsky from Peski, this is a new attack and not the one that destroyed two houses earlier in the evening, and of incoming at Kievsky. Nothing that wasn't routine up until last September.....


    Well, support for Kiev is quickly running out along with cash:

    Ukraine's graft problem tests Western patience and resolve

    http://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-graft-problem-tests-western-patience-resolve-064430596.html



    When you add Syria, refugees, EU problems and counter sanctions, MH-17 saga and insistence on Minsk from EU into the mix this looks like less than ideal moment for ukrops to go full Verdun. Not to mention the fact that NAF is ready and waiting.  


    Khepesh, could this be start of that theoretical "solution" you talked about recently:

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    Post  ultron Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:50 pm

    Is war started again?
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:28 pm

    Now 5000 troops take up a fair amount of space and consume a large quantity of supplies. Should be easy to get some satellite photos of the supply convoys.

    Some 5,000 Russian servicemen stay in Donbas, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko has stated.

    "Some 5,000 Russian military men continue staying in Donbas," Poroshenko said at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.

    On February 8 Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko reported that about 7,000 Russian carrier officers stay in the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine.


    http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/324456.html
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:10 am

    Khepesh wrote:Ukrops bombarding the usual places around Donetsk for a few hours now. One day when this happens and everybody sits back and says "norm", it won't stop after a few hours and people find it's not "norm", but by then it may be too late.

    Kyiv is desperate. The paradox for Maidan goverment is that, it needs war against "external enemies" (Russia, Novo) to maintain the unity, but in the war it will be definitely defeated, which inturn shorten the life span of Maidan.

    BTW, I hope that Wikileak can detonate that bomb Cool Cool

    https://www.rt.com/news/332433-ukraine-minister-media-bombshell/

    Ukraine’s interior minister said he could drop a media bombshell that would force foreign sponsors to stop all support for Kiev. The claim comes as the cabinet hangs in peril over the resignation of a reformist economy minister, who quit citing covert corruption.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:10 pm

    On the truck blocking issue. This morning the Ukraine Cabinet suspended all Russian freight from transiting Ukraine. Russia has responded by blocking all Ukraine freight. This is in the sub-military foothills of war. I wonder how many EU citizens are prepared to die for $ and the social engineering/control that US wants in Europe. IMO it's all going to fuck quickly and we will see major wars and or revolutions in Europe within next ten years, or much less. http://ria.ru/economy/20160215/1374720207.html#ixzz40EFNK8SN
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:11 pm

    Khepesh wrote:On the truck blocking issue. This morning the Ukraine Cabinet suspended all Russian freight from transiting Ukraine. Russia has responded by blocking all Ukraine freight. This is in the sub-military foothills of war. I wonder how many EU citizens are prepared to die for $ and the social engineering/control that US wants in Europe. IMO it's all going to fuck quickly and we will see major wars and or revolutions in Europe within next ten years, or much less. http://ria.ru/economy/20160215/1374720207.html#ixzz40EFNK8SN

    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:22 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:


    Khepesh, could this be start of that theoretical "solution" you talked about recently:
    Well, that is really somebody elses ideas that I thought were worth to be posted here simply as an interesting alternative view. I cannot realistically see such a solution actually occuring, or at least in the way the scenario states. However, we have historical precedents for such actions, for instance Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and Yalta and Potsdam agreements. I think we need to throw out old paradigms of how political business has been conducted for many decades as the world has changed, but too many have yet to realise this, except Putin.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:23 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
    TTP ?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:30 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
    TTP ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:53 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
    TTP ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership

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    Post  Khepesh Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:59 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
    TTP ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
    I am pessimistic and see at least western Europe drowning in a sea of blood at worst, or extremely serious civil disturbances requiring heavy military force by governments against their own populations at the least, and that may lead to military mutinies or coups or revolutions. But that is offtop and I am not inclined to put forward my precise views on this, yet.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:40 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
    TTP ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
    I am pessimistic and see at least western Europe drowning in a sea of blood at worst, or extremely serious civil disturbances requiring heavy military force by governments against their own populations at the least, and that may lead to military mutinies or coups or revolutions. But that is offtop and I am not inclined to put forward my precise views on this, yet.
    I find the western peoplr are way too complacant that they wont do anything so long as they are fed and have shelter.  If they didnt have that, then they would have no other choice.  I mean look how German men and woman just stand and watch as their own get murdered or groped or whatever by forigners and do nothing about it.  A protest here or there is nothing, and to make it worst, there are counter protestors defending such people as the gropers.  

    But time will tell.  I figure that ttp will cause a lot of outcry here in Canada but eventually we will take it, like we did with NAFTA that screwed a lot of people.
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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:55 pm

    Official: Moscow will return control over eastern border to Kiev after crisis is settled

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/politics/856820
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:39 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Until the TTP reveals its "potential" there will be close to NO revolution. At all.
    TTP ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership

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    That's because there's no I (for Europe) in this trade.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:47 pm

    News from the loony asylum.
    According to Basurin, on the night of 9 February a battle took place 1km behind ukrops front line at Marinka between Pravy Sektor forces and 95 Brigade, which resulted in 30 dead and 100 wounded. Seems PS wanted to assault Marinka but 95 Brigade did not without it being a proper attack authorised by higher command. PS attempted to force 95 Brigade to attack and then fighting broke out between them. If it was said an incident like this occcured with any other army in the world, I would not believe it as it is so totaly bizarre, yet with ukrops any fantastical nonsense is easy to believe. http://voicesevas.ru/news/20722-pravyy-sektor-atakoval-ukrainskih-desantnikov-v-marinke-30-chelovek-pogibli-razvedka.html

    On tonights "entertainment", in Gorlovka the sounds of battle at Zaitsevo can be clearly heard, and residents of Petrovsky district can hear the fighting taking place at Marinka, but who fights who at Marinka.....
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:03 pm


    I will just go on the record and say that this is by far worst time for ukrops to attack (or do anything for that matter).

    If this was usual situation we would hear endless noise in MSM about rebels ''violating ceasefire/ Minsk deal'' prior to attack but still nothing except Jihadi Julian but he hardly counts.

    Either they are beyond desperate (more than usual that is) and need the pity point regardless of the asswhooping they will receive or they are being led to the slaughter by their sponsors who have perhaps changed plans without telling them.

    My 2¢.
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    Post  Project Canada Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:58 am

    Ukrainian prosecutor quits over corruption as government teeters


    may Pukraine spiral further into the abyss and cease to exist (return back to Russia)
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:44 am

    Please, please, throw more of your money away Turdkey, because Ukraine is a bottomless void/chasm comparable to the empty space between Turdogan's ears lol! Razz Embarassed lol1

    Ukraine, Turkey Sign Agreement on $50Mln Loan to Kiev

    ...That's $50 million down the toilet, never to be seen again....that's music to my ears lol! music
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    Post  Khepesh Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:51 am

    It's reported from several sources that this morning the village of Lugansk came under barrage from mortars. Fortunately the one that landed by a kindergarten failed to explode.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:48 am

    Khepesh wrote:It's reported from several sources that this morning the village of Lugansk came under barrage from mortars. Fortunately the one that landed by a kindergarten failed to explode.
    The team that were allocated that target and fired that round are now on latrine duty.

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