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Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette
GarryB- Posts : 40415
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AyalaBotto- Posts : 6
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Hi,
Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?
thanks.
regards,
Ayala Botto
Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?
thanks.
regards,
Ayala Botto
franco- Posts : 7028
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AyalaBotto wrote:Hi,
Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?
thanks.
regards,
Ayala Botto
Only two in the works and numbers aren't assigned until they are commissioned.
AyalaBotto- Posts : 6
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franco wrote:AyalaBotto wrote:Hi,
Any idea of the Pennant Number on the hull for the Gremyashchy-class (Project 20385) corvettes?
thanks.
regards,
Ayala Botto
Only two in the works and numbers aren't assigned until they are commissioned.
Hi,
Thanks for the information.
Any idea regarding the commission date?
I'm also looking for photos of this class. Any idea where to look?
Thanks.
Regards,
Ayala Botto
franco- Posts : 7028
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No, suspect sanctions playing a part right now. Laid down in 2011 and 2013 apparently.
George1- Posts : 18488
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For Pacific Fleet build at least six corvettes of 20380 project will be built
sepheronx- Posts : 8809
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Is there any word for the other fleets to get the same? To make them economical and longevity, they need to build quite a few. Since Russia is in desparate need of ships and these smaller ships pack a massive punch, I think it would be ideal to concentrate building more of these for other areas too.
Isos- Posts : 11586
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Is it possible to integrate a naval version of the kh-31 to teregoushchy corvettes ? It has almost the same size of the Uran.
Does someone has the cost of the Molnyia bought by India (the one with 16 Urans) ?
If they are used with other Molnyia equiped with Moskits, 1-2 Steregoushchy and 1-2 grigorovich frigate, it would be a very powerfull task force even against US navy. They should propose task force for the export market insted of ships "alone". I'm sure countries like India, algeria and vietnam would be interested.
Does someone has the cost of the Molnyia bought by India (the one with 16 Urans) ?
If they are used with other Molnyia equiped with Moskits, 1-2 Steregoushchy and 1-2 grigorovich frigate, it would be a very powerfull task force even against US navy. They should propose task force for the export market insted of ships "alone". I'm sure countries like India, algeria and vietnam would be interested.
GarryB- Posts : 40415
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Actually isn't India and Russia creating a modified version of Brahmos that is smaller and lighter and can be carried by a wider range of aircraft platforms... and is faster.
Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.
The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).
Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.
The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).
Isos- Posts : 11586
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GarryB wrote:Actually isn't India and Russia creating a modified version of Brahmos that is smaller and lighter and can be carried by a wider range of aircraft platforms... and is faster.
Bung a huge solid rocket booster to get it airborne and you have a much better anti ship missile for light naval vessels.
The Kh-31 lacks weight range range from a ground stationary start... not so important for the Kh-35 as it is much slower but has a bigger warhead... (90kg for Kh-31 and 145kg for Uran).
Yes I know but the design of Moskit and Kh-31 is so agrassive and beautifull ... It's cheaper too. They give a better disign to the ship, now with VLS they have all the same disign. An Udaloy II is so much cooler than a tico or a gorshkov.
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Not to disagree with you, but you do realise that by talking about Moskit and Kh-31 you are covering most of the field in terms of rocket ramjet powered anti ship missiles...
Both Kh-31 and Moskit are from the 1980s... Kh-31 being a mach 3 600kg missile for tactical aircraft, while Moskit is a 4.5ton mach 2.5 very heavy missile first carried by Sovremmeny class destroyers as well as a surface effect ship and a missile patrol vessel.
The thing is that the Moskit was replaced by Onyx and Brahmos is a modification of the Yakhont which is the export model of Onyx.
A Brahmos-M would be an ideal substitution for Moskit as it is much smaller and lighter and faster and longer ranged... in fact the only better option would be the Zircon because it is a scramjet powered mach 7-8 missile but it isn't ready yet...
Both Kh-31 and Moskit are from the 1980s... Kh-31 being a mach 3 600kg missile for tactical aircraft, while Moskit is a 4.5ton mach 2.5 very heavy missile first carried by Sovremmeny class destroyers as well as a surface effect ship and a missile patrol vessel.
The thing is that the Moskit was replaced by Onyx and Brahmos is a modification of the Yakhont which is the export model of Onyx.
A Brahmos-M would be an ideal substitution for Moskit as it is much smaller and lighter and faster and longer ranged... in fact the only better option would be the Zircon because it is a scramjet powered mach 7-8 missile but it isn't ready yet...
George1- Posts : 18488
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Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"
http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html
http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html
PapaDragon- Posts : 13455
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George1 wrote:Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"
http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/598792.html
They seem to be installing different mast (from 22350 it seems) or I might be wrong, don't speak lingo...
http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/1136592.html
George1- Posts : 18488
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The newest corvette "Gremyashchy" will be launched in 2017
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[quote="PapaDragon"][quote="George1"]Recent photos of the project 20385 corvette "Gremyashchy"
Barely able to look out of a US Zumwalt.
Like the picture window size portholes. All they need is a veranda and a few deck chairs, perfect for watching a missile launch.
They seem to be installing different mast (from 22350 it seems) or I might be wrong, don't speak lingo...
Barely able to look out of a US Zumwalt.
George1- Posts : 18488
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Latest composites will make the Russian corvettes and frigates invisible
Подробнее на ТАСС:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2690570&usg=ALkJrhj3y5X7YwI1_4DjZVqHDn7UvV7y1Q
Подробнее на ТАСС:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2690570&usg=ALkJrhj3y5X7YwI1_4DjZVqHDn7UvV7y1Q
Isos- Posts : 11586
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http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/ryska-militarfartyg-hotade-smhi-forskare/
Idk if it was already posted but nice pictures (from 2014) of a Steregushchy with Ka-27 on it, intercepting a dannish reseach vessel. Idk what's writen in the article.
Idk if it was already posted but nice pictures (from 2014) of a Steregushchy with Ka-27 on it, intercepting a dannish reseach vessel. Idk what's writen in the article.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13455
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Another 20380 corvette will be laid in July 2016 at Almaz shipyard. Name is "Reskiy" ("Резкий")
http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B072/
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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PapaDragon wrote:
Another 20380 corvette will be laid in July 2016 at Almaz shipyard. Name is "Reskiy" ("Резкий")
http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B072/
Correction:
That vessel is going to be laid down in Amur shipyard in the far East. It is an Almaz design.
George1- Posts : 18488
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So we have in building process:
2038.1
Komsomolsk Shipyard, Komsomolsk-on-Amur
Sovershennyy, Laid: 30 June 2006 - Pacific Fleet
Gromkiy, Laid: 17 February 2012 - Pacific Fleet
Aldar Tsydenzhapov, Laid: 22 July 2015 - Pacific Fleet
Reskiy, Laid: July 2016 - Pacific Fleet
Severnaya Verf, St. Petersburg
Retiviy, Laid: 20 February 2015
Strogiy, Laid: 20 February 2015
20385
Severnaya Verf, St. Petersburg
Gremyashchy, Laid: 2 Feb 2012 - Northern Fleet
Provornyy, Laid: 25 July 2013 - Northern Fleet
2038.1
Komsomolsk Shipyard, Komsomolsk-on-Amur
Sovershennyy, Laid: 30 June 2006 - Pacific Fleet
Gromkiy, Laid: 17 February 2012 - Pacific Fleet
Aldar Tsydenzhapov, Laid: 22 July 2015 - Pacific Fleet
Reskiy, Laid: July 2016 - Pacific Fleet
Severnaya Verf, St. Petersburg
Retiviy, Laid: 20 February 2015
Strogiy, Laid: 20 February 2015
20385
Severnaya Verf, St. Petersburg
Gremyashchy, Laid: 2 Feb 2012 - Northern Fleet
Provornyy, Laid: 25 July 2013 - Northern Fleet
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marat- Posts : 352
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When Amur SY will finally finish Sovershennyy? They need 10 years and ship isnt ready jet....
PapaDragon- Posts : 13455
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marat wrote:When Amur SY will finally finish Sovershennyy? They need 10 years and ship isnt ready jet....
Agreed, they really need to sort out this mess with corvette production. This entire series is already obsolete and freakin' Gosrhkov frigates are being built lot faster than these corvettes at only slightly higher price. To say nothing of Grigorevich class.
Finish this series, start new models and mind the deadlines FFS...
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Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles. 
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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medo wrote:Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles.
There won't be any more Gremyashy (pr. 20385) corvettes other than the 2 that are building at Severnaya Werf (St. Petersburg). Reason: they cost almost as much as an Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
On the other hand there will be more Pr. 20380 class corvettes coming from the Far -East. 3 are being built there currently with a fourth one to be laid out in June 2016.
As for Severnaya, it is still unsure what they plan to build next. They may continue with 20380 or the newer version (20386). They could also stop corvettes altogether and concentrate on the Gorshkov class frigates. Currently they have 2 more 20380 corvettes building (apart from the two 20385 mentioned above).
medo- Posts : 4343
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TheArmenian wrote:medo wrote:Now with engine problem solved for 20385 corvettes, I hope they will order more for Northern fleet. I like them more than original Steregushy corvettes as they are armed with UKSK launchers and Kalibr cruise missiles.
There won't be any more Gremyashy (pr. 20385) corvettes other than the 2 that are building at Severnaya Werf (St. Petersburg). Reason: they cost almost as much as an Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
On the other hand there will be more Pr. 20380 class corvettes coming from the Far -East. 3 are being built there currently with a fourth one to be laid out in June 2016.
As for Severnaya, it is still unsure what they plan to build next. They may continue with 20380 or the newer version (20386). They could also stop corvettes altogether and concentrate on the Gorshkov class frigates. Currently they have 2 more 20380 corvettes building (apart from the two 20385 mentioned above).
20385 is for northern fleet, while 20380 is for Baltic fleet. With 2 more 20380, which are now in the process of building in Severnaya will bring full number of 6 corvettes for Baltic fleet. Pacific fleet will also get 6 20380 corvettes. Role of Gremyashy corvettes in Norhtern fleet will be different than the role of Gorshkov frigates and considering the importance of Northern fleet, they need 6 of them to protect brown water area, while Gorshkovs will form blue water fleet.
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