Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

Cyberspec wrote:They can always increase fighter production if they deem it necessary....I would imagine increasing production of Su-30's and Su-35's wouldn't be that difficult if need be

Production of Su-35 is 20 per year since the end of the SU-30Mk2 production
The question is China get the half this year and the next
After that Russia can get 14 per year and other 6 Indonesia or other country

The production of Su-30SM will be increased when new order is made nex year. Plant is capable to produce more than 30 as in 2015

George1 wrote:BTW AMCXXL can you give us detailed numbers for remaining Su-24 and MiG-31?

BTW ?? what is this??

MiG-31:
105 VVS (4 regiments+ 1 conversión squadron)
25 Navy (2 squadrons)
Total 130
Now 100 modernized (two of them crashed), waiting 20 more of the planing of this year (handed over in the first half of 2018) and 13 of the planing if next year

Su-24M:
VVS about 60-70 airplanes
4 or 5 squuadrons (it is not clear if Khurba stll will fly one sq. next year) + Lipestk
Gvardeyskoye(Crimea) , Marinovka , Chelyabisnk (2) and Khurba??

Navy: 2 1/2 squadrons waiting for Su-30SM replacement (1/2 Saki, Chernyakhovsk,Monchegorsk): 30 airplanes


Su-24MR:
VVS : 4 squadrons (Marinovka, Shatalovo, Chelyabisnk, Varfolomeyevka): 50 airplanes
Navy: 1 1/2 sq, (1/2 saki and Monchegorsk) 18 SU-24MR


Total, about 100 Su-24M and 70 Su-24MR to be replaced for 100 Su-34 and 50 Su-30SM, really a good change

Then, which would be fraction of the signed orders to be completed after the begin of 2018?

Preview from some months ago by Franco.

franco wrote:The procurement plans extending into 2025 is due to be finalized in the fall but in the interim the present orders are coming close to the end. As of the end of 2017, planned procurement's against orders will be:

Su-30SM - 104/116  (Air Force 88 and Navy 28)
Su-35S - 68/98
Su-34 - 105/124 (option for 16 more)
Yak-130 - 99/109

Already completed;

Mig-29SMT - 52/52
Mig-29K - 24/24
Su-30M2 - 20/20
Su-27SM3 - 12/12

Have read there will be an order for 24 Mig-35 signed soon but until the MoD announce it.
There is also an order for another 36 Su-27SM3's but they are rebuilt Su-27P. First 4 due in 2017.

AMCXXL, thanks for the informative posts, summed up well. I want to also point out that my numbers indeed combined the RuAF and Navy ("700 new 'fighters'", etc.).

[quote="eehnie"]Then, which would be fraction of the signed orders to be completed after the begin of 2018?

Preview from some months ago by Franco.

franco wrote:The procurement plans extending into 2025 is due to be finalized in the fall but in the interim the present orders are coming close to the end. As of the end of 2017, planned procurement's against orders will be:

Su-34 - 107/129 (103 we have now)

that are the correct numbers according my calculations

AMCXXL wrote:
The modernized Su-27 will be retired in 2025 or 2026 , and the MiG-29 about 2020 except some UB´s of instructons centers

Basically we can expect in 2020-2025:

6 regiments of Su-27/35 + kubinka , lipestk, etc...
4 regiments of MiG-31 + Savasleyka
3-4 regments of Su-30SM + kubinka, etc...
0-1 regiments of MiG-29SMT and 1 squsdron now in Astrakhan
and later, 2 regiments of Su-57 in 2025
MiG-35 only in suqdrons (Erebuni, Kubinka, Astrakhan)
16 regiments and some squadrons

In the Navy:
2 regiments "flankers" (Kaliningrado and 279KIAP)
3-4 regiments Su-30SM (if there are regiment for Pacific Fleet)
2 regiments or squadrons of MiG-31

7/8 regiments


This means at least 25% of the airplanes will be in the Navy, so is not posible 700 in the RuAF. Only if Su-34 is included it is possible to overcome that number
There will be 600 in RuAF and 150-200 in te Navy

Anyway is necesary wait for the new State Armament Program

Thank you!

eehnie wrote:Then, which would be fraction of the signed orders to be completed after the begin of 2018?

Preview from some months ago by Franco.

franco wrote:The procurement plans extending into 2025 is due to be finalized in the fall but in the interim the present orders are coming close to the end. As of the end of 2017, planned procurement's against orders will be:

Su-30SM - 104/116  (Air Force 88 and Navy 28)
Su-35S - 68/98
Su-34 - 105/124 (option for 16 more)
Yak-130 - 99/109

Already completed;

Mig-29SMT - 52/52
Mig-29K - 24/24
Su-30M2 - 20/20
Su-27SM3 - 12/12

Have read there will be an order for 24 Mig-35 signed soon but until the MoD announce it.
There is also an order for another 36 Su-27SM3's but they are rebuilt Su-27P. First 4 due in 2017.

By tye end of 2017:
Su-30SM - 100/116  (Air Force 88 and Navy 28) remaining 16
Su-35S - 68/98 remaining 30
Su-34 - 107/129 remaining 22
Yak-130 - 99/109 remaining 10

And 50 SMT/UBT (42+8 )

There are enough for 2018 but the production lines cannot stop so are necesary new contrcts before the summer
ALso is posible the production of Su-30SM will be more of 16 next year, at least 12 for VVS and 8 for Navy , this means the new contract will be firmed just after elections by the incoming Defence Minister

franco wrote:Mig-29 SMT 28 + 16 = ?
Mig-29 UBT 6 + 2 =

Algerians= 34 (28+6UB) based in Kursk (24+4) Lipestk (2+1) and Astrakhan (2+1)
New= 16 (14+2UB) in Astrakhan , numbers 20-35 (except Nº29 and 33) and UB´s 50,51

what is your certainty about the numbers of orders you are predicting?

I know for the 2027 budget it is going to increase orders of Su-35 as example, possibly Su-30. But there seems to be a lot of uncertainty other than what Bondarev stated about 700 new fighters.

There are no new orders on Su-30SM and Su-34 because UAC is working on Su-30SM1 and Su-34M. But the production lines won't just suddenly come to a halt. They will order enough to keep yearly production at the same volume as it is right now.

I guess by next round of orders, by then, SM1 (fixing flaws found) and 34M should be more or less ready then.

AMCXXL wrote:

franco wrote:

Isos wrote:

Can you you give us an updated list of their air forces numbers ?

They had so many Su-37 and mig-29, now it seem they don't and all the numbers seems totally fake on the net (specially wikipedia where they say they have like 200 mig-29 or Something like that).

Su-27 - all types including training and Naval ~ 150
Mig-29 - all types including training and Naval ~120

Besovets: 12 Su-27SM , half a dozen Su-27P and 3 Su-27UB . other 40-45 Su-27S stored waiting for recicling
Khotilovo: 12 Su-27SM , half a dozen Su-27S/P and 3 Su-27UB.
Belbek: 12 Su-27SM , 12 Su-27P , 3 Su-27UB
Krymsk: 14 Su-27SM3 , 4 Su-27P , 2 Su-27UB , other 2 dozens grounded since 2011 in process of recicling
Kubinka 8-10 Su-27P waiting for replacement of Su-35S
Kushchovskaya: 10 Su-27UB/S (8+2)
Aktubinsk: 2 Su-27UB and 3 Su-27SM not working, should be transferred after repairs
East 7 Su-27SM not working, should be transferred to West after repairs
NAVY: 10 Su-27P and 3 Su-27UB waiting for more Su-27P of Besovets, Khotilovo or from repair plants.

Total 121 VVS and 13 Navy= 134 . If Su-27K (Su-33) is inlcluded then are 154

About the MiG-29 , excluding 50 Su-29SMT/UBT , are about 65-70 , hafl of them UB´s:
6 UB´s Lipestk
12 UB´s Kushchovskaya
14-16 Astrakhan
16 Kubinka
18 Yerevan

Then, doing the sum of all, it would be:

196-203 Su-27 (20 more with the Su-33)
116-118 MiG-29

these would not be aircrfts in the reserve, right?

AMCXXL wrote:In 2009 , 10 squadrons and 125 MiG-31
The planes stored in flying condition in Lipestk (40-50) have been used for modernization.
Other 70 are in 514 ARZ used for parts, most older versions

Again, doing the sum, it would be:

125 MiG-31 active
120 MiG-31 reserve

For a total active of Fighters (FAS+FMR) and Fighter Interceptors of:

125 MiG-31

068 Su-35
020 Su-33
120 Su-30
196-203 Su-27

000 MiG-35
116-118 MiG-29

645-654 Total begin 2018.

ult wrote:There are no new orders on Su-30SM and Su-34 because UAC is working on Su-30SM1 and Su-34M. But the production lines won't just suddenly come to a halt. They will order enough to keep yearly production at the same volume as it is right now.

The new SAP is ready, waiting only for the new legislature in Russia. Putin is now in campaign. Do not expect a politician to announce arms purchases on the eve of an election

You can place the order when you want and with the conditions you want

Also the current orders are enough for 2018

miketheterrible wrote:what is your certainty about the numbers of orders you are predicting?

I know for the 2027 budget it is going to increase orders of Su-35 as example, possibly Su-30.  But there seems to be a lot of uncertainty other than what Bondarev stated about 700 new fighters.

We can expect the simply replacement of existing units. And without great hurry , at the same rates as now or little more. It's a long-term plan
Every year one squadron of Su-35 and other for VVS (probably only until to 2020), and also othersquadron of Su-30SM for Navy since 2019 .
Of course one sqdn of new version of Su-34 since 2020.
Also small ammounts of Su-57 and MiG-35 , this is all that Russia needs in next 8 years

The Su-35 new contract in no necesary until the begining of 2020 but you can be sure the Su-35 will be in production for Russia at least for 15 years starting since 2011.The prodiction is 20 per year and when China receives its 24, the Russia can reeive 12 or 14 per year, the other 6-8 for export.

About the Su-30SM, VVS need another contract of 28 for end the current deployment. This have no doubt , airplanes for complete Millerovo, Kursk and the two seater for Su-35S squadorns will be purchased. If other regiment is raised, then in 2021

For the Navy "about 50" have been announced , this is just to replace the 4 existing squadrons of Su-24M/MR , if there are other regiment in the Pacific Fleet , then more in 2022.
The matter with Navy is does not had figther pilots, Su-24 is very different. It is different in all aspects, including variable wings , all the squadrosn will be raised staring from zero, so at first you do not need a lot of airplanes, at the moment 20 in 4 years, later it should be a full squadron a year

The Su-34 current contract will be completed in 2019 totalling 10 squadrons and probably the new contract for 5 or 6 more squadrons will follow in late 2019 or 2020 of the new versión Su-34M that it will also cover the task of the Su-24MR.

About the Su-57 , only 12 for 2020 , later a couple of regments until 2025 and perphaps 2 more until 2030

The MiG-35 24 for 2020 replacing Yerevan? and half of Kubinka sq,(single seaters) ,and other small ammount until 2025 for replacement of other squadrons in Astrakah , Lípetsk and Kubinka , some of them UB´s

eehnie wrote:

AMCXXL wrote:

franco wrote:

Isos wrote:

Can you you give us an updated list of their air forces numbers ?

They had so many Su-37 and mig-29, now it seem they don't and all the numbers seems totally fake on the net (specially wikipedia where they say they have like 200 mig-29 or Something like that).

Su-27 - all types including training and Naval ~ 150
Mig-29 - all types including training and Naval ~120

Besovets: 12 Su-27SM , half a dozen Su-27P and 3 Su-27UB . other 40-45 Su-27S stored waiting for recicling
Khotilovo: 12 Su-27SM , half a dozen Su-27S/P and 3 Su-27UB.
Belbek: 12 Su-27SM , 12 Su-27P , 3 Su-27UB
Krymsk: 14 Su-27SM3 , 4 Su-27P , 2 Su-27UB , other 2 dozens grounded since 2011 in process of recicling
Kubinka 8-10 Su-27P waiting for replacement of Su-35S
Kushchovskaya: 10 Su-27UB/S (8+2)
Aktubinsk: 2 Su-27UB and 3 Su-27SM not working, should be transferred after repairs
East 7 Su-27SM not working, should be transferred to West after repairs
NAVY: 10 Su-27P and 3 Su-27UB waiting for more Su-27P of Besovets, Khotilovo or from repair plants.

Total 121 VVS and 13 Navy= 134 . If Su-27K (Su-33) is inlcluded then are 154

About the MiG-29 , excluding 50 Su-29SMT/UBT , are about 65-70 , hafl of them UB´s:
6 UB´s Lipestk
12 UB´s Kushchovskaya
14-16 Astrakhan
16 Kubinka
18 Yerevan

Then, doing the sum of all, it would be:

196-203 Su-27 (20 more with the Su-33)
116-118 MiG-29

these would not be aircrfts in the reserve, right?

AMCXXL wrote:In 2009 , 10 squadrons and 125 MiG-31
The planes stored in flying condition in Lipestk (40-50) have been used for modernization.
Other 70 are in 514 ARZ used for parts, most older versions

Again, doing the sum, it would be:

125 MiG-31 active
120 MiG-31 reserve

For a total active of Fighters (FAS+FMR) and Fighter Interceptors of:

125 MiG-31

068 Su-35
020 Su-33
120 Su-30
196-203 Su-27

000 MiG-35
116-118 MiG-29

645-654 Total begin 2018.

No, you cannot include airplanes grounded for 15-20 years that are only for parts or the way of being recicled.
The MiG-31 of the first versions and SU-27S will not fly never again and will be scrapped or are being scrapped already

The only reserve is in Lipestk , and most of 50 MiG-31 stored there already were modernized (mainly BSM) and replaced the MiG-31BS/DZ in the airbases in the two or tree past years.
The 70 airplanes in 514 ARZ at Rzhev, the same of other ARZ are very old , some of them stripped and for canibalization and are decomissioned , the same that of other stored in the ARZ´s

Particulary the airplanes of Krymsk were of the older of VVS and were abandoned there when the base closed.Are out of his useful life. The same happens with some junk thrown in a lot of air bases.
The cotract for recicling the Su-27 of Krymsk was signed in 2014 or 2015 once the base reopened. In the satellite is posible to see aircraft that are disassembled for scrap. Of about 40 left behind there are already only 20 waiting their turn
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9595898,38.0004565,191m/data=!3m1!1e3

The same in Besovets , etc... The contracts for recycle older MiG-31 of Yelizovo, Khotilovo, etc.. was also signed past years


In  2018:
122 Su-27 P/SM/UB
+/-70 MiG-29
135 MiG-31
327 soviet made

68 Su-35
12 Su-27SM3
100 Su-30SM
20 Su-30M2 (despite are for instruction)
50 MiG-29SMT/UBT
23 MiG-29K
20 Su-33
293 russian made

Total 620 (510 VVS and 110 in the Navy)

This is about the same number since 2009 , that had about 600 in VVS and only 20 Su-33 in the Navy

AMCXXL wrote:

eehnie wrote:

AMCXXL wrote:

franco wrote:

Isos wrote:

Can you you give us an updated list of their air forces numbers ?

They had so many Su-37 and mig-29, now it seem they don't and all the numbers seems totally fake on the net (specially wikipedia where they say they have like 200 mig-29 or Something like that).

Su-27 - all types including training and Naval ~ 150
Mig-29 - all types including training and Naval ~120

Besovets: 12 Su-27SM , half a dozen Su-27P and 3 Su-27UB . other 40-45 Su-27S stored waiting for recicling
Khotilovo: 12 Su-27SM , half a dozen Su-27S/P and 3 Su-27UB.
Belbek: 12 Su-27SM , 12 Su-27P , 3 Su-27UB
Krymsk: 14 Su-27SM3 , 4 Su-27P , 2 Su-27UB , other 2 dozens grounded since 2011 in process of recicling
Kubinka 8-10 Su-27P waiting for replacement of Su-35S
Kushchovskaya: 10 Su-27UB/S (8+2)
Aktubinsk: 2 Su-27UB and 3 Su-27SM not working, should be transferred after repairs
East 7 Su-27SM not working, should be transferred to West after repairs
NAVY: 10 Su-27P and 3 Su-27UB waiting for more Su-27P of Besovets, Khotilovo or from repair plants.

Total 121 VVS and 13 Navy= 134 . If Su-27K (Su-33) is inlcluded then are 154

About the MiG-29 , excluding 50 Su-29SMT/UBT , are about 65-70 , hafl of them UB´s:
6 UB´s Lipestk
12 UB´s Kushchovskaya
14-16 Astrakhan
16 Kubinka
18 Yerevan

Then, doing the sum of all, it would be:

196-203 Su-27 (20 more with the Su-33)
116-118 MiG-29

these would not be aircrfts in the reserve, right?

AMCXXL wrote:In 2009 , 10 squadrons and 125 MiG-31
The planes stored in flying condition in Lipestk (40-50) have been used for modernization.
Other 70 are in 514 ARZ used for parts, most older versions

Again, doing the sum, it would be:

125 MiG-31 active
120 MiG-31 reserve

For a total active of Fighters (FAS+FMR) and Fighter Interceptors of:

125 MiG-31

068 Su-35
020 Su-33
120 Su-30
196-203 Su-27

000 MiG-35
116-118 MiG-29

645-654 Total begin 2018.

No, you cannot include airplanes grounded for 15-20 years that are only for parts or the way of being recicled.
The MiG-31 of the first versions and SU-27S will not fly never again and will be scrapped or are being scrapped already

The only reserve is in Lipestk , and most of 50 MiG-31 stored there already were modernized (mainly BSM) and replaced the MiG-31BS/DZ in the airbases in the two or tree past years.
The 70 airplanes in 514 ARZ at Rzhev, the same of other ARZ are very old , some of them stripped and for canibalization and are decomissioned , the same that of other stored in the ARZ´s

Particulary the airplanes of Krymsk were of the older of VVS and were abandoned there when the base closed.Are out of his useful life. The same happens with some junk thrown in a lot of air bases.
The cotract for recicling the Su-27 of Krymsk was signed in 2014 or 2015 once the base reopened. In the satellite is posible to see aircraft that are disassembled for scrap. Of about 40 left behind there are already only 20 waiting their turn
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9595898,38.0004565,191m/data=!3m1!1e3

The same in Besovets , etc... The contracts for recycle older MiG-31 of Yelizovo, Khotilovo, etc.. was also signed past years


In  2018:
122 Su-27 P/SM/UB
+/-70 MiG-29
135 MiG-31
327 soviet made

68 Su-35
12 Su-27SM3
100 Su-30SM
20 Su-30M2 (despite are for instruction)
50 MiG-29SMT/UBT
23 MiG-29K
20 Su-33
293 russian made

Total 620 (510 VVS and 110 in the Navy)

This is about the same number since 2009 , that had about 600 in VVS and only 20 Su-33 in the Navy

I understad if there is people that wants a count of only the "elite", I will not say you that this count of the "best" aircrfts is wrong. I can agree with it, knowing that additionally to this there are many real units, that allow as example to send recently 4 MiG-27 restored to Syria, ad that allow to see in 2017 15 engines of MiG-23 offered to auction.

Also I understand that there is people that like to count future units that have not been still ordered. I prefer to stay still in the signed orders.

In my case, I also like to see counted older but real units, that in many cases can return to fly with some maintenance (far lower than the cost of a new aircraft). Basically the years of scrapping of young aircrafts to please the US are finished. And in case of war, I mean strong war, most of them would be restored fast. It is a different approach, but also legit and fair.

I was taking the numbers you commented to reach a result in line with a different way of counting, to reach a count without exclussions.

I found the numbers you included about the Su-27 and the MiG-29, in line with my previous data only if all are units in active service (I would have 75 Su-27 and 237 MiG-29 more in the reserve). Unless serious accident, there is not a reason to say that a Su-27 or a MiG-29 can not be repaired, because these aircrafts are still in production and there is also a production of spare parts.

And finally, I found the numbers you included about the MiG-31 in line with my previous data (125A 110-120R in your comment, 122A 115+R in my previous data). From your comment I counted since the begin those of Lipestk and the 514 ARZ as in the reserve.

Sovietic production means not aircraft to scrappe. It is necessary to take into account that the early Su-27 and MiG-29 are of the age of the Tu-160, that no-one see as something to scrappe. Many of these Sovietic Su-27 and MiG-29 have still a future.

with the last Su-34s delivered the 2017 program of fighter aircarfts delivery was completed

2017 Deliveries Update

Su-30SM: 17 (12 to VKS, 5 to Ru Navy)
Su-35S: 10
Su-34: 16

Now for 2018 we expect:

16xSu-30SM (8 for Navy and 8 for Air Force)
10xSu-35S
16xSu-34

Deliveries of combat aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia in 2017

In 2017, the Russian aviation industry continued to maintain a very high rate of supply of new aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia. At the same time, the total number of combat aircraft and combat training planes transferred under the State Defense Order to the Russian Air Force and the Russian Navy decreased, which is primarily due to the completion in 2016 of contracts for the supply of MiG-29SMT and MiG-29KR / CUBR fighters, fighters Su-30M2, as well as with a decrease in the supply of Yak-130 combat training aircraft. At the same time, the deliveries of the main modern combat aircraft Su-30SM, Su-34 and Su-35S were maintained at the already standard level.

In total, according to known data, in 2017, the Armed Forces of Russia received 43 combat aircraft of new production (17 Su-30SM, 16 Su-34 and ten Su-35S) and six Yak-130 combat training planes.

Deliveries of combat and training-combat aircraft of new production to the Armed Forces of Russia in 2008-2017


https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3036294.html

George1 wrote:Deliveries of combat aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia in 2017

 In 2017, the Russian aviation industry continued to maintain a very high rate of supply of new aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia. At the same time, the total number of combat aircraft and combat training planes transferred under the State Defense Order to the Russian Air Force and the Russian Navy decreased, which is primarily due to the completion in 2016 of contracts for the supply of MiG-29SMT and MiG-29KR / CUBR fighters, fighters Su-30M2, as well as with a decrease in the supply of Yak-130 combat training aircraft. At the same time, the deliveries of the main modern combat aircraft Su-30SM, Su-34 and Su-35S were maintained at the already standard level.

 In total, according to known data, in 2017, the Armed Forces of Russia received 43 combat aircraft of new production (17 Su-30SM, 16 Su-34 and ten Su-35S) and six Yak-130 combat training planes.

Deliveries of combat and training-combat aircraft of new production to the Armed Forces of Russia in 2008-2017


https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3036294.html

I doubt 24 Su-35s was deliverd in 2014.

walle83 wrote:

George1 wrote:Deliveries of combat aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia in 2017

 In 2017, the Russian aviation industry continued to maintain a very high rate of supply of new aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia. At the same time, the total number of combat aircraft and combat training planes transferred under the State Defense Order to the Russian Air Force and the Russian Navy decreased, which is primarily due to the completion in 2016 of contracts for the supply of MiG-29SMT and MiG-29KR / CUBR fighters, fighters Su-30M2, as well as with a decrease in the supply of Yak-130 combat training aircraft. At the same time, the deliveries of the main modern combat aircraft Su-30SM, Su-34 and Su-35S were maintained at the already standard level.

 In total, according to known data, in 2017, the Armed Forces of Russia received 43 combat aircraft of new production (17 Su-30SM, 16 Su-34 and ten Su-35S) and six Yak-130 combat training planes.

Deliveries of combat and training-combat aircraft of new production to the Armed Forces of Russia in 2008-2017


https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3036294.html

I doubt 24 Su-35s was deliverd in 2014.

Of course, 12 in 2013 and 12 in 2014.
The production of Su-35S for Russia has been:
2 in 2011
8 in 2012
12 in 2013
12 in 2014
14 in 2015
10 in 2016 (+ 4 for China)
10 in 2017 (+ 10 for China)
and in 2018 is projected 10 for Russia (+ 10 for Chna)

The ceremony of arriving to 23 IAP pf the 12 Su-35 produced and handed over in 2013, was on february of 2014, but the airplanes was made and have the first fligth in 2013
The table is mistaken because takes the planes sometimes for the year in which it corresponds to its manufacture / first flight and other times the following year when the news comes out in the press, since many aircraft delivered to the air force in December travel to their regiments in the first weeks of next year

Was him that guy that said the Su-57 would enter in service by 2027?

He is clearly an antirussian, but kind of moderate considering the hostile climate.

He is the asshole who gets wet Everytime some US government IP is shown on his site.

He is a shitty "think tank". Why people still help him financially by posting his trash site is beyond me.

Well, atleast the article is decent overall, atleast when it comes to tactical aircraft.

But does that mean there will no additional Yak-130s?

He's also maybe slightly too pessimistic on Su-57 procurement, considering that a few months ago he predicted that the 5th engine won't be ready before 2027...

On transport aviation: so the numbers will stay roughly the same? What's exactly is the problem here? That will still by far the most capable transport fleet outside the US and China (and I'm talking about China of 2027). It was always planned that the procurement of new transport planes will start later and fighters are obviously more important.

"As a result, the air force will be faced with a proliferation of combat aircraft types, with the attendant higher maintenance and training costs."

Any proof of this, in the RuAF of 2017? It's obvious that the overall maintenance and training costs are low regardless, particularly in dollar terms.

So there'll be Flanker designs in service: Su-27, 30, 33, 34, 35. Fulcrum variants: MiG-29, 29SMT, 29K, 35. An incerceptor: MiG-31Bm. And the new stealth fighter: Su-57. Again, what's the problem?

Kimppis wrote:Well, atleast the article is decent overall, atleast when it comes to tactical aircraft.

But does that mean there will no additional Yak-130s?

He's also maybe slightly too pessimistic on Su-57 procurement, considering that a few months ago he predicted that the 5th engine won't be ready before 2027...

On transport aviation: so the numbers will stay roughly the same? What's exactly is the problem here? That will still by far the most capable transport fleet outside the US and China (and I'm talking about China of 2027). It was always planned that the procurement of new transport planes will start later and fighters are obviously more important.

"As a result, the air force will be faced with a proliferation of combat aircraft types, with the attendant higher maintenance and training costs."

Any proof of this, in the RuAF of 2017? It's obvious that the overall maintenance and training costs are low regardless, particularly in dollar terms.

So there'll be Flanker designs in service: Su-27, 30, 33, 34, 35. Fulcrum variants: MiG-29, 29SMT, 29K, 35. An incerceptor: MiG-31Bm. And the new stealth fighter: Su-57. Again, what's the problem?

Decent in what? This article is like the letter to Santa of the West.

To think that Russia at this point Russia will be ordering 270-290 fighters and only 50-60 will be Su-57 is absurd. Only between a 17.8% and a 21.5% of the new orders. This is wet dreams for the West. The reality is that is far more likely to see a 100% of the new orders of fighters being Su-57. There is not problem for Russia if there are not new orders of the Su-27/30/33/35 and the MiG-29/35 because the production of these aircrafts, more concretely the Su-30, Su-35 and MiG-35 variants, will continue to export, something that also the West dislikes.

The constant call for the retirement of capable aircrafts (Su-27, MiG29 and Su-24)...
The constant complaining about the situation of the auxiliary fleet of transport aircraft when Russia finnised not still the planned reduction of the fleet...
The promotion of the Il-112, in a segment unsuccesful in recent years...
The promotion of the Il-114 as basis of special aircrafts and maritime patrol, to promote this aircraft as successor of the Il-38 when has like 1/3 of range...

All it is totally misleading...