Iran Air Defense Systems

‘First shot’: Iran tests Bavar-373 system aimed to substitute Russian S-300
Tehran has showcased an indigenous long-range air defense system, the Bavar-373 missile, developed as an alternative to the Russian S-300 after Moscow canceled its contract.

"Bavar-373 has fired a first successful shot," the commander of the Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, told Iranian state TV on Friday.

According to Iranian security officials, the new system is better than the Russian S-300, as it is able to track over 100 targets, just like the Russian system but with a higher targeting capability.
http://rt.com/news/183856-bavar373-missile-iran-s300/

AlfaT8 wrote:

‘First shot’: Iran tests Bavar-373 system aimed to substitute Russian S-300
Tehran has showcased an indigenous long-range air defense system, the Bavar-373 missile, developed as an alternative to the Russian S-300 after Moscow canceled its contract.

"Bavar-373 has fired a first successful shot," the commander of the Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, told Iranian state TV on Friday.

According to Iranian security officials, the new system is better than the Russian S-300, as it is able to track over 100 targets, just like the Russian system but with a higher targeting capability.
http://rt.com/news/183856-bavar373-missile-iran-s300/

What do you guys think about this "S-300 replacement".

Werewolf wrote:Actually that is less about current projects and their quality rather then a long term development and testing of their Military Industrial Complex. Iran already has seen that even russia bows down just because some jews are bitching abour S-300 missiles and therefor Russia in case when jews bitch around are not that credible and reliable to get a product and deal done. That is exactly why Iran has started to develope its Military Industrial Complex to get everything they need on them own, but that is a rather long term solution which will show results in several years or better decades, but better start now then later.

Tehran has showcased an indigenous long-range air defense system, the Bavar-373 missile, developed as an alternative to the Russian S-300 after Moscow canceled its contract.

"Bavar-373 has fired a first successful shot," the commander of the Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, told Iranian state TV on Friday.

According to Iranian security officials, the new system is better than the Russian S-300, as it is able to track over 100 targets, just like the Russian system but with a higher targeting capability.

"We believe that 'Bavar' and '3rd of Khordad' missile shields are better than some other long-range missile defense systems of the country," ol-Anbia added, Fars news reports.

Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, ordered the development of the missile system, after then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev banned armed sales to the country in light of UN sanctions against Tehran. Following the move, Iran filed a $4 billion lawsuit against Russia in the international arbitration court in Geneva.

The S-300 is a long-range surface-to-air missile system produced by NPO Almaz. It is designed to be used as a defensive weapon against aircraft and cruise missiles.

Meanwhile, Iran’s Air Defense commander boasted that the country's defense systems will track down all of Islamic Republic's enemies if they fly over Iran's airspace.

“We give a warning to the enemy’s aircraft before entering the Islamic Republic’s airspace, and deem any kind of intruding drones or planes of enemy a threat, and shoot it down immediately in case of entry [into Iran],” Colonel Mahmoud Ahmadi, commander of Iran’s southwestern Air Defense zone, Tasnim news reported.

A drawing of the Bavar-373 (Image from wikipedia.org)

A drawing of the Bavar-373 (Image from wikipedia.org)

This follow an August 24 incident, when the country's forces shot down a stealth drone thought to be sent from Israel. The invading “Hermes” aircraft was intercepted by a surface-to-air missile.

Iran has also unveiled plans to increase the number of air defense sites from the current 3,600 to 5,000, according to Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli.

Mike E wrote:They would need India, maybe China, or better yet, Russia to build it successfully. Both Belarus and especially NK wouldn't be of much help.

I also doubt most claims about it, like the "100 targets" one.

Mike E wrote:True, every country, even Russia on occasion, overstates their military prowess.

"Like a S-300", yes, as good as one, no. Especially for NK, it might have a range of ~400 km, but it would probably have a kill probability of like 0.10 or something bad... They simply have no industry, neither does Belarus, even though theirs is more advanced.

I've heard you opinion on this many times, and I disagree. I personally believe that the S-300, and more so the S-400, would do more than just "deter" an airstrike... The Bavar-373 on the other hand...... (Let's keep it at there's a reason every country in the world wants more SAMs, including Russia.)

To be honest, I'm no expert on this kind of thing as well... What I do know, is that the US forces as expressed their feeling towards Russian S-300 and S-400 systems, and those feelings are always filled with fear...

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Mike E wrote:True, every country, even Russia on occasion, overstates their military prowess.

"Like a S-300", yes, as good as one, no. Especially for NK, it might have a range of ~400 km, but it would probably have a kill probability of like 0.10 or something bad... They simply have no industry, neither does Belarus, even though theirs is more advanced.

I've heard you opinion on this many times, and I disagree. I personally believe that the S-300, and more so the S-400, would do more than just "deter" an airstrike... The Bavar-373 on the other hand...... (Let's keep it at there's a reason every country in the world wants more SAMs, including Russia.)

To be honest, I'm no expert on this kind of thing as well... What I do know, is that the US forces as expressed their feeling towards Russian S-300 and S-400 systems, and those feelings are always filled with fear...

Come on don't lump the White Russian arms industry with that of North Korea, they have a significant manufacturing capability considering a land locked country of it's size.

Mike E wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Mike E wrote:True, every country, even Russia on occasion, overstates their military prowess.

"Like a S-300", yes, as good as one, no. Especially for NK, it might have a range of ~400 km, but it would probably have a kill probability of like 0.10 or something bad... They simply have no industry, neither does Belarus, even though theirs is more advanced.

I've heard you opinion on this many times, and I disagree. I personally believe that the S-300, and more so the S-400, would do more than just "deter" an airstrike... The Bavar-373 on the other hand...... (Let's keep it at there's a reason every country in the world wants more SAMs, including Russia.)

To be honest, I'm no expert on this kind of thing as well... What I do know, is that the US forces as expressed their feeling towards Russian S-300 and S-400 systems, and those feelings are always filled with fear...

Come on don't lump the White Russian arms industry with that of North Korea, they have a significant manufacturing capability considering a land locked country of it's size.

What are you trying to imply... NK's MIC is based off of copying, licensing, and in certain cases, "upgrading". Other countries around the same size have larger, nevermind more advanced MICs.

 - We are talking about Iran.

Vladimir79 wrote:I'm surprised no one has figured out the ploy.  We sell them, say we didn't and the next year Iran has a perfect clone.

Vladimir79 wrote:I'm surprised no one has figured out the ploy.  We sell them, say we didn't and the next year Iran has a perfect clone.

nemrod wrote:

Vladimir79 wrote:I'm surprised no one has figured out the ploy.  We sell them, say we didn't and the next year Iran has a perfect clone.

For that reason, since the begining, when I saw the first prototype a couple of years ago, I suspected Russia is behind. Nevertheless Russia has a good relationships with Israel, has a good relationships with many arabs states and Iran. Moreover, Russia tried to comply to US will in order to avoid any troubles. For that reason, as I said above, gave discretly the green light, they provided pundits to China, North Korea, Belarus, Ukraine. Iam continue to think that it is doubfull if Iran could itself implement this project without foreign help.
Furthermore, I think Russia provided too, pundits the iranian nuclear technlogies, either in heavy water, or centrifuges. As we witnessed a mega deal between Iran and Russia occured these past days, it must be negociated for at least several years ago.

It is hard sometimes to understand russian's diplomatic scenes.
However, I continue to think that Belarus could easily provided experts to iranians, they have the technology. Concerning North Korea, it is more complicated, they have the technology too, and if they have not, it was provided by either China, Pakistan, or even South Korea.

Werewolf wrote:If that is the case what Vlad said that would be great for Iran's capability to sustain against NATO and Israel aggression and give them a little bit of safe time to further develope MIC and capabilities to build some military capabilities to react to such aggressions.

Werewolf wrote:I would not bet a single penny on Patriot to have any effecient capabilities to stop any slow ballistic missile and for sure not IRBM type off weapons.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:I would not bet a single penny on Patriot to have any effecient capabilities to stop any slow ballistic missile and for sure not IRBM type off weapons.

The most important point is that foreign countries that the Pentagon and NATO don't control, have in-depth knowledge of their most modern SAMS deployed.

Werewolf wrote:
Well the US has also alot of knowledge of the export models of S-300 from Greece since they have it and are NATO partner.