The Situation in the Ukraine. #25

So after numerous back-and-forth posts, we come to the conclusion that atmospheric conditions have an effect on such a system.
Great, lets talk about Earth not being flat now.

Khepesh wrote:In Alchevsk something may have occured with the Cossacks, but this is not clear. Ishchenko, Mozgovoi and Dremov were all Cossacks from that area. I think maybe Kozitsyn could be feeling nervous, even in Rostov, if he is still there.

JohninMK wrote:Is this ammo usable by the UAF, or just special units?


Ukrainian-British Stiletto Systems ready to expand ammunition for small weapons of Ukrainian troops. Ukrainian-British Stiletto Systems Ltd. that designs ammunition and small weapons is ready to participate in the upgrade of ammunition for small weapons of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

According to Interfax-Ukraine's sources in the defense sector, recently the company held a successful presentation of new ammunition for the Ukrainian Armed Forces and National Guard in Ukraine.

The new ammunition included Stiletto 9mm LUGER bullet with muzzle velocity 600m/sec, a close quarter armor piercing round designed to penetrate all current body armor and light armored vehicles; Stiletto 7.62/51 armor piercing 'Sniper' bullet with muzzle velocity 810 to 830m/sec capable of piercing 12 to 20.5mm (Brinell hardness 450) armor plate at ranges from 100 to 600m; Stiletto.338LM armor piercing 'Sniper' bullet with muzzle velocity up to 900m/sec capable of piercing all known body armor up to a range of 1,800m and armor plates from 12 to 20.5mm at a range of 700m; Stiletto AP bullet of 5,56 x 45 mm (with wolfram carbide core) capable of piercing armor plates over 10mm from the distance of up to 450m.

The source said that now Stiletto Systems Ltd. is working on plans to organize production of new bullets in Ukraine.

JohninMK wrote:Is this ammo usable by the UAF, or just special units?


Ukrainian-British Stiletto Systems ready to expand ammunition for small weapons of Ukrainian troops. Ukrainian-British Stiletto Systems Ltd. that designs ammunition and small weapons is ready to participate in the upgrade of ammunition for small weapons of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

According to Interfax-Ukraine's sources in the defense sector, recently the company held a successful presentation of new ammunition for the Ukrainian Armed Forces and National Guard in Ukraine.

The new ammunition included Stiletto 9mm LUGER bullet with muzzle velocity 600m/sec, a close quarter armor piercing round designed to penetrate all current body armor and light armored vehicles; Stiletto 7.62/51 armor piercing 'Sniper' bullet with muzzle velocity 810 to 830m/sec capable of piercing 12 to 20.5mm (Brinell hardness 450) armor plate at ranges from 100 to 600m; Stiletto.338LM armor piercing 'Sniper' bullet with muzzle velocity up to 900m/sec capable of piercing all known body armor up to a range of 1,800m and armor plates from 12 to 20.5mm at a range of 700m; Stiletto AP bullet of 5,56 x 45 mm (with wolfram carbide core) capable of piercing armor plates over 10mm from the distance of up to 450m.

The source said that now Stiletto Systems Ltd. is working on plans to organize production of new bullets in Ukraine.

MH17 shot down by rebels using Buk system brought from Russia – int’l investigators

A Dutch-led team of international investigators has released its findings in the criminal probe on the MH17 crash, concluding the plane was shot down by rebels in eastern Ukraine by a Buk missile system brought from Russia. Moscow has repeatedly denied supplying weapons to the rebels.
The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) consists of investigators and experts from the Netherlands, Belgium, Australia, Malaysia and Ukraine, and was tasked with determining who was responsible for the incident.

The Dutch-led Joint Investigative Team says that a technical problem and an “attack within the aircraft,” such as a terrorist assault, can be ruled out.

No other aircraft could have shot down the plane either, the JIT says, citing various radar data, including that provided by Russia.

The JIT presented an audio recording that allegedly proves that rebel forces voiced a need for a Buk missile system, and subsequently received one.

The investigators claim that a Buk missile system was brought from Russia and was returned to the country after the incident.

The JIT says that MH17 was shot down by a 9M38 missile, as stated by the Dutch Safety Board report last year.

According to the JIT, the team investigated the claims by Russia that the plane was shot down from Zaroschenske, held by Ukrainian forces. Citing an alleged audio interception of the rebels, the JIT concluded that the missile did not come from that territory.

International investigators instead say that flight MH17 was shot down from the village of Pervomayskoye, held by rebel forces at the time of the incident.

Ukraine and its foreign sponsors repeatedly accused Russia of arming and supporting the rebels, an accusation that Moscow denies.

Almost immediately after MH17 was downed, Western media and some governments blamed Russia, claiming Moscow had either provided the Buk system to the rebels or sent its regular troops to take down Ukrainian warplanes on their behalf.

Russia denied the accusations on numerous occasions. It also challenged Kiev’s claims that Ukraine had neither warplanes nor Buk systems in the area by producing public satellite and radar images showing evidence to the contrary.

Project Canada wrote:

MH17 shot down by rebels using Buk system brought from Russia – int’l investigators

A Dutch-led team of international investigators has released its findings in the criminal probe on the MH17 crash, concluding the plane was shot down by rebels in eastern Ukraine by a Buk missile system brought from Russia. Moscow has repeatedly denied supplying weapons to the rebels.
The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) consists of investigators and experts from the Netherlands, Belgium, Australia, Malaysia and Ukraine, and was tasked with determining who was responsible for the incident.

The Dutch-led Joint Investigative Team says that a technical problem and an “attack within the aircraft,” such as a terrorist assault, can be ruled out.

No other aircraft could have shot down the plane either, the JIT says, citing various radar data, including that provided by Russia.

The JIT presented an audio recording that allegedly proves that rebel forces voiced a need for a Buk missile system, and subsequently received one.

The investigators claim that a Buk missile system was brought from Russia and was returned to the country after the incident.

The JIT says that MH17 was shot down by a 9M38 missile, as stated by the Dutch Safety Board report last year.

According to the JIT, the team investigated the claims by Russia that the plane was shot down from Zaroschenske, held by Ukrainian forces. Citing an alleged audio interception of the rebels, the JIT concluded that the missile did not come from that territory.

International investigators instead say that flight MH17 was shot down from the village of Pervomayskoye, held by rebel forces at the time of the incident.

Ukraine and its foreign sponsors repeatedly accused Russia of arming and supporting the rebels, an accusation that Moscow denies.

Almost immediately after MH17 was downed, Western media and some governments blamed Russia, claiming Moscow had either provided the Buk system to the rebels or sent its regular troops to take down Ukrainian warplanes on their behalf.

Russia denied the accusations on numerous occasions. It also challenged Kiev’s claims that Ukraine had neither warplanes nor Buk systems in the area by producing public satellite and radar images showing evidence to the contrary.

This investigation is total BS charade. From the very beginning they intended to make Russia responsible for this Terror incident devised by Pindostan and Ukrapistan  
Russia needs to hit back hard!