Syrian Civil War: News #9

Resistance wrote:
Russia does nothing in Syria other than keeping the war going at Israel's request.

Now Putin does seem more favorable to Israel than Soviet leaders were. But note Russia is on the same side as Iran and Hez, which may be seeking to establish a front on the Golan to deal with Israel later. And why did Russia bring in S-300s? Last I heard, neither ISIS nor anti-Assad rebels have anything for them to shoot at.

They brought S-400 because a Turkish fighter shot down an Su-24.

After 2 S-200s were launched at the Israelis they wont be bothering the SAA for a while.

VladimirSahin wrote:After 2 S-200s were launched at the Israelis they wont be bothering the SAA for a while.

No, they keep bombing after that.

Aftermath from the Israeli airstrikes over the Golan Heights
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/aftermath-israeli-airstrikes-golan-heights/

VladimirSahin wrote:After 2 S-200s were launched at the Israelis they wont be bothering the SAA for a while.

Too optimistic. The SAA is nowhere near strong enough to deter Israel now, though the Russian presence may limit their options.

video of US soldiers being expelled but they sill wants the US planes, weapons, money & political support
https://twitter.com/pepperm4n/status/776757499756158976

Moderate FSA chase US soldiers out in Al Rai & promise to slaughter them, #Aleppo
The same FSA US arms with TOWs
https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/776750163230597120

Breaking news

The US handed Russia data on the location of militant opposition groups operating in Syria for the first time, special representative of the Russian Defense Ministry Alexander Zorin told journalists on Friday.

A preliminary analysis of this data suggested that distinctions hadn't been made between the US-backed, so-called 'moderate rebels' and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (Nusra Front) terrorists yet. DETAILS TO FOLLOW

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160916/1045380683/us-russia-rebels-location-data.html

calm wrote:

video of US soldiers being expelled but they sill wants the US planes, weapons, money & political support
https://twitter.com/pepperm4n/status/776757499756158976

Moderate FSA chase US soldiers out in Al Rai & promise to slaughter them, #Aleppo
The same FSA US arms with TOWs
https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/776750163230597120

With Friends like these...

calm wrote:

VladimirSahin wrote:After 2 S-200s were launched at the Israelis they wont be bothering the SAA for a while.

No, they keep bombing after that.

Aftermath from the Israeli airstrikes over the Golan Heights
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/aftermath-israeli-airstrikes-golan-heights/

Wow, they still aren't scared of being shot down? Those Israelis really do get on nerves sometimes.

Call me a cynic but given it is the (US/Saudi backed?) 'rebels' who are holding up the UN aid convoy, could this be a plan playing out? Bit like blaming the Russians, who were not a signatory, for the lack of Minsk implementation. My highlights.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Humanitarian access, along with seven days of reduced violence, is a condition of the Syria ceasefire agreement announced last week by Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

If the conditions are upheld, Russia and the United States will work together to establish a Joint Implementation Center and carry out joint airstrikes against terrorist groups in the war-torn country, according to the deal. "If, by Monday we have continued to see reduced violence and no humanitarian access there will be no Joint Implementation Center," Kirby told reporters on Friday.

Kirby noted that Secretary of State John Kerry had discussed aid delivery with UN Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura. "We know that there are trucks that are waiting to go in, and the UN is supervising that process," Kirby said.

Earlier on Friday, the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that Syrian government forces are ready to withdraw from Castello Road in Aleppo simultaneously with opposition groups to facilitate the delivery of aid.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160916/1045391738/no-joint-implementation-center-syria-aid-access-not-granted.html

Ever wonder how fair Al Jizzsmeara is on Syria? What's their slant you may ask? Well get a kick out of this!

Al-Jazeera Arabic, where the host asks why genocide agaisnt Shia hasn't happened yet and guest promises it will soon









https://twitter.com/thekarami/status/776559307047391232

KoTeMoRe wrote:

calm wrote:

video of US soldiers being expelled but they sill wants the US planes, weapons, money & political support
https://twitter.com/pepperm4n/status/776757499756158976

Moderate FSA chase US soldiers out in Al Rai & promise to slaughter them, #Aleppo
The same FSA US arms with TOWs
https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/776750163230597120

With Friends like these...

Even Western news is forced to admit it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/16/american-commandos-forced-to-run-away-from-us-backed-syrian-rebe/

GarryB wrote:They brought S-400 because a Turkish fighter shot down an Su-24.

That strayed over Turkish airspace? I thought the purpose of S-400s was to establish better control over Syrian airspace where Turkish jets aren't operating.

starman wrote:I thought the purpose of S-400s was to establish better control over Syrian airspace where Turkish jets aren't operating.

And only a limited portion of Syrian airspace, an area where Russians keep one airbase (Hmeinim), a logistics/ordnance supply for SAA (Sanobar) base and a small port facility (Tartous). The said system can hardly cope with the tens of coalition/NATO/Israeli air assets flying freely and/or bombing targets in Syria on a daily basis.

KiloGolf wrote:

starman wrote:I thought the purpose of S-400s was to establish better control over Syrian airspace where Turkish jets aren't operating.

And only a limited portion of Syrian airspace, an area where Russians keep one airbase (Hmeinim), a logistics/ordnance supply for SAA (Sanobar) base and a small port facility (Tartous). The said system can hardly cope with the tens of coalition/NATO/Israeli air assets flying freely and/or bombing targets in Syria on a daily basis.

If the timing called for it, they wouldn't need to necessarily engage every air asset to cause the adequate effect. Russia's VKS does in fact have assets capable of engaging NATO air assets in Syria all the away from Crimea...it's called Murmansk-BN:



...With the range of 5000-5500km, Murmansk-BN can greatly diminish NATO C4I if needed be. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Your thinking one-dimensional checkers, when you should be playing 3-Dimensional chess!

62 #SAA martyred and 100 wounded after coalition airstrike / Deir ez-Zor

Russian MoD Confirms Two F-16 Jets and Two A10 Aircraft Attacked Syrian Army

The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that Syrian army positions were attacked by two F-16 fighter jets and two A-10 ground attack aircraft of the US-led coalition. The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces. wrote:

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045415141/russia-syria-army-attacked.html

magnumcromagnon wrote:...With the range of 5000-5500km, Murmansk-BN can greatly diminish NATO C4I if needed be. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Your thinking one-dimensional checkers, when you should be playing 3-Dimensional chess!

Or consider that simple changes in atmospheric conditions, which are emboldened at such long distance, render this system as being a disturbance, at best. If not completely ineffective at times.

calm wrote:62 #SAA martyred and 100 wounded after coalition airstrike / Deir ez-Zor

Russian MoD Confirms Two F-16 Jets and Two A10 Aircraft Attacked Syrian Army


https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045415141/russia-syria-army-attacked.html

Looks like the Murmansk failed to jam these ones

In b4 everyone yells that this is Russia's fault

PapaDragon wrote:
In b4 everyone yells that this is Russia's fault

It is, but it happens in areas Russia hardly cares.

Russia re-approached with Turkey --> Turkey invades northern Syria.
Russia concluded a truce between SAA and US-backed insurgents --> US or Coalition bombs SAA in the middle of nowhere after Israel bombed them in Golan.

Russia has shown a lack of interest for the whole of Syria, hence stronger parties are moving in.

KiloGolf wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:...With the range of 5000-5500km, Murmansk-BN can greatly diminish NATO C4I if needed be. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Your thinking one-dimensional checkers, when you should be playing 3-Dimensional chess!

Or consider that simple changes in atmospheric conditions, which are emboldened at such long distance, render this system as being a disturbance, at best. If not completely ineffective at times.

How about providing evidence for that? Did your actually examine it yourself, test it yourself? Lemme guess, it's pure conjecture you pulled from your arse? Do I need to remind you of the other times you made similar arse-pull conjectures?

KiloGolf wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
In b4 everyone yells that this is Russia's fault

It is, but it happens in areas Russia hardly cares.
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You are right on this part. DeZ would be firmly in Iranian chunk so where are they all this time?

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:...With the range of 5000-5500km, Murmansk-BN can greatly diminish NATO C4I if needed be. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Your thinking one-dimensional checkers, when you should be playing 3-Dimensional chess!

Or consider that simple changes in atmospheric conditions, which are emboldened at such long distance, render this system as being a disturbance, at best. If not completely ineffective at times.

How about providing evidence for that? Did your actually examine it yourself, test it yourself? Lemme guess, it's pure conjecture you pulled from your arse? Do I need to remind you of the other times you made similar arse-pull conjectures?

You're probably confused, too much 3-dimensional chess.
Atmospheric conditions changing over such long distances is a fact, not a conjecture. There is no uber-weapon restricting Syrian airspace. Hence SAA getting invariably trashed by IDF/AF and Coalition, with no single fvck given in the process.

Soldier in Deir Ezzor claims the death toll is over 100 now :/
Most of the dead were from the 137th Artillery Brigade of the Republican Guard.
https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/777225811996839936

This is a perfect example of why US SOF in northern Syria and NATO planes bombing Syria is so dangerous.