As are Russian allies now (what few there are left)
They don't need navy to reach them and unlikely that they will be bothering even if they get any new ones. Soviet geopolitical welfare services are failed concept.
You hit the nail on the head... Russia does not need to recreate the Soviet Union, nor the Warsaw Pact... what it needs are good open trade relations with countries that are also growing and wont try to screw it like the west does at every chance it gets. It needs a trading relationship with countries who don't feel superior and think it is their right to change governments in other countries but spits the dummy at the suggestion anyone else might influence their elections... even though they have been bought by big business for decades now. Imagine Russia thinking it has more say in a US election than Google or Microsoft...
New trade is not going to come to Russia... Russia needs to go to the rest of the world that is out of reach of a train because there are too many blockable routes... learn from the pipeline through the Ukraine.
And they will be conneted to all of them via land or air. Unless you are one of those who entertain fantasies that Russia will be establishing foothold in South America?
What the fuck are you smoking.... Russia couldn't even secure a land or air route to Serbia when your NATO friends were stealing Kosovo from you... if they can't even reliably get to such a close country without EU permission what chance do they have with the rest of the world... and yes, I am including Asia, Africa, and central and south America.
Fuck the US... they have taken away eastern europe and parts of the former soviet union and have told Russia to forget about any influence in the Ukraine... why would you listen to them and ignore the people of central and south america?
There are countries there that don't even know what a normal trade relationship is because the US has screwed them over so many times...
If Russia wants to get pissed onby West then getting involved naval dickwaving is exactly the right way to do it.
Wake up... Russia is getting pissed on by the west ANYWAY.
A powerful navy means they will aim wide and miss your shoes... I am not saying they need to be the new super power and have a navy bigger and more powerful than NATO and the US and China combined. What they need is a powerful relatively small navy that can look after itself and no one will mess with.
Corvettes able to carry Zircon missiles is a great start.
Need I remind you that it will be 1 Russian naval budget and industry versus 20 Western ones?
And there you go making it a dick measuring competition... who gives a fuck how big US carriers are... note I am not saying the US has 100K ton carriers so Russia needs 200Kton carriers. I am saying Russia needs air support where ever they go and an air defence system able to protect a range of ships, which all the ships of the group can contribute to.
I don't care how fast the Chinese or South Koreans can build ships either.
Making craps old tech ships would be easy for the Russians too.
They already have plenty of old vessels.
Even corvette is enough to get the point across if other side knows that SSGN could be lurking nearby. WW1 is long over.
Against any decent country, no it would not be... how is an SSGN going to stop you sinking a corvette? What is an SSGN going to do anyway... what it could do whether that corvette was there or not... so the corvette does nothing except when more cruise missiles are fired than that corvette could carry reveal there is an SSGN there too.
Having a battlecruiser there and a few destroyers shows you mean business and you wont put up with a blockade on country x whose only crime was trading with Russia.
Against Russian navy stocked with SSGNs they definitely wont.
Of course.... all Russia needs to defeat these super berks is submarines... just like it has always been... funny thing is that the Soviet Union had SSGNs when the US blockaded Cuba... why didn't they break the blockade then?
Perhaps because to actually break a blockade with an SSGN you actually have to use a real anti ship missile, which means pretty much an act of war... of course you could argue the blockade in the first place was also an act of war but try arguing with words with the west... they always win those because they are lying
who don't know the meaning of words in the first place.
Then how should we call your constant ranting about Russian non-existant naval power?
I have made my position quite clear. Russia does not need nor would benefit from a huge powerful navy right now... they are not in an economic position to exploit the opportunities it would create and the larger sized force would be a burden that held them back rather than promote growth.
In 15-20 years time however a strong navy will allow them to become a true global power... something they have never really been in the past because they have been contained during the cold war by the western enemy and post cold war by an evil western enemy that does not like competition.
Problem with last two Kirovs is that amount of time and money required does not justify end result.
Is your opinion, which I do not agree.
Big ships are generally very solid and unless there were collisions or neglect they can usually be kept going for decades,
The argument that they would need to be completely stripped down and you might as well start from scratch holds no water... the majority of components and equipment will need to be fully replaced anyway, but building the hull would require a shipyard space better used for other vessels and other programmes.
Can they grab a reactor from one of the subs they are scrapping?
They have no doubt been developing new generation equipment to go into new build ships... just like they are testing equipment from the Su-57 into the design of the Su-35 it makes as much sense to do the same with ships as well... you can piss around with computer models all you like but the only way to be sure is put it in a real ship. They have five Orlan hulls to play with... wasting a billion dollars on a Kirov upgrade makes rather more sense than spending 5 billion on a brand new cruiser and having a Zumwaltski that does not come cheap either but does not fucking work.
They have developed new marine reactors... I would remove the reactors from the two Kirovs with potential anyway... it is just like Robocop... don't save the fucking arm... what is the point of body armour if you have a weak human arm left in the mix?
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) simultaneously with missile attacks from land-based aviation to overwhelm and degrade enemy defense, then launch Vulcan wolfpack to hit the flat-tops.