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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:59 pm

    Modernization program "Прорыв-3" for T-90 tanks

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    Post  Benya Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:19 pm

    Some more info on this "Proviv-3" upgrade on T-90 tanks


    Russia eyes major upgrade for its fleet of T-90A main battle tanks

    Russia`s Ministry of Defense (MoD) is planning to upgrade its T-90A main battle tanks (MBT), according to a source in the MoD. "Russia`s Armed Forces operate several hundred of T-90A MBTs that have already revealed their high combat capacity," the source said.

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    Russian T-90A main battle tank
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    "The MoD has no intention to phase out these tanks. The Ministry`s Main Directorate for Automotive and Armoured Vehicles (Russian acronym: GABTU, Glavnoye Avtobronetankovoe Upravlenie) has developed the program to upgrade the previously delivered T-90A tanks at the armour repairing plants. It is named Proriv-3 (Break-In 3). The enhanced T-90 tank will have a number of advantages over the basic model," the source added.

    The Proriv-3 variant of the T-90 MBT (also designated as T-90M, M stands for Upgraded, Modernizirovanny) was unveiled at the Army 2015 military-technical forum held outside Moscow in June 2015. The vehicle has a combat weight of 50 t, a crew of three tankers, a clearance of 450 mm, and an operational range of 550 km (with additional fuel tanks installed). The tank is armed with a 125 mm smoothbore gun-launcher and a 7.62 mm coaxial machinegun.

    T-90M also features a roof-mounted remote controlled weapon station (RCWS) armed with a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun. The model of the tank demonstrated at the Army 2015 defense show was up-armoured with Relikt (Relic) explosive reactive armour (ERA) developed by the NII Stali scientific-research institute (a subsidiary of the Tractor Plants Concern). The vehicle is powered by single 1,130-h.p. engine.

    According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/september_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russia_eyes_major_upgrade_for_its_fleet_of_t-90a_main_battle_tanks_21909163.html



    Well, nothing much to say, but it is good that they will upgrade T-90s, so that they can hold their places until Armata arrives.

    (This is my 100th post so far cheers . Yeah, not much but I won't stop there, and I aim for more. Wink )
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:15 am

    Pls make it be Burlak with maskirovka name pls.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:34 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Pls make it be Burlak with maskirovka name pls.

    Burlak as in the Burlak upgrade? I thought MOD rejected it? For that matter the T-90MS export demonstrated that they'll tolerate a small and modest turret bustle design, but nothing like the Black Eagle's monster-truck sized turret bustle that the Omsk Plant seems fond of. You wont see robust bustles unless the crew compartments are completely separated from the ammunition, so your more likely to see them on the Armata series than any modernized version of the T-90 series.
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:45 am

    Benya wrote:According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Never caught that on the news. What prompted them in putting 200 of such modern MBTs in storage?  dunno
    First they decided to get rid of the T-80 and now this. Well it seems Russia will settle for a rather small MBT force after all.
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    Post  franco Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:19 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Benya wrote:According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Never caught that on the news. What prompted them in putting 200 of such modern MBTs in storage?  dunno
    First they decided to get rid of the T-80 and now this. Well it seems Russia will settle for a rather small MBT force after all.

    They were the first built and have been in storage for 20 years. Apparently they were too sophisticated for conscript drivers and took a beating. You have to wonder if the reason that they have not been upgraded is that they are too damaged.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:57 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Pls make it be Burlak with maskirovka name pls.

    Burlak as in the Burlak upgrade? I thought MOD rejected it? For that matter the T-90MS export demonstrated that they'll tolerate a small and modest turret bustle design, but nothing like the Black Eagle's monster-truck sized turret bustle that the Omsk Plant seems fond of. You wont see robust bustles unless the crew compartments are completely separated from the ammunition, so your more likely to see them on the Armata series than any modernized version of the T-90 series.

    Burlak had full rammer and tactical separation, with loading process being a tray atop the bustle. Armata has a hull autoloader despite having airtight separation from ammo.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:00 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Benya wrote:According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Russia`s Land Forces operate 350 T-90/T-90A main battle tanks; 200 more T-90 tanks have been placed in store.

    Never caught that on the news. What prompted them in putting 200 of such modern MBTs in storage?  dunno
    First they decided to get rid of the T-80 and now this. Well it seems Russia will settle for a rather small MBT force after all.
    They're First batch tanks with similar offensive assets than current 72B3. They're the ones earmarked for upgrade.
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    Post  franco Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:24 am

    The military action in Syria are the first, where the Russian T-90 was a baptism of fire.

    About a year ago, these tanks modification "A" were seen on the Russian air base used videoconferencing Hmeymim and destined for its defense.

    The emergence of the latest available SAR armed Russian tanks caused a strong reaction in many of the Western media. Presentations of experts, called T-90A "supertankom" boiled down to the conclusion that Russia has deployed to the airbase a few cars, because the Syrian government forces, armed with T-72, can not ensure the protection of the air base. T-90 is better suited for the defense of such a facility in the desert, as it is more secure tower, integrated with the main thermal sight, an improved stabilizer guns and improved automatic loader. A mounted on the tank fire control system, superior world counterparts, allowing the machine to move the first shot to hit moving targets in almost any weather.

    Analysts of the journal The National Interest then noted that if the militants of the terrorist group Daishev (Arabic name banned in Russia "Islamic State" - a comment. "RG") apply captured in Iraq, US tanks the M1A1 "Abrams" is against the T-90 have no chance. In addition to the low training terrorists outcome of the match and experts explained further equipment of the worst "Abrams" - for export, they were supplied in the version with reduced features.

    A few months later it became known that some tank units Syrian government troops were armed with T-90 sample as military aid from the Russian Federation in 1992. Crews were formed from the SAR personnel who have experience in driving T-72 and retrained.

    The first T-90 were used by Syrian troops in Aleppo province. In the Internet published several videos depicting the participation of Russian-made tanks in the fighting in the region.

    Middle East media reported that it was the T-90 played a significant role in the successful operations of ATS units of the army. Armored vehicles provide promotion assault groups, as a result of which were released on the strategically important settlements, as well as ways to cut off the supply of militants. Some of the tanks were deployed in the cities, to take control of Syrian forces.

    A number of sources can be seen and the responses military ATS members of the crew of the T-90. According to them, all the nuances of Russian cars are they still unknown, but recent battles have proven efficacy and good protection of these tanks from many types of weapons, including advanced anti-missile systems, the TOW, which in large quantities are terrorists.

    A clear proof of this has been appeared in February this year on the web about Aleppo captured video showing an attack of militants who used TOW-2A anti-Russian tank. The missile struck the frontal part of the tower. The story gleefully fighters stopped abruptly after the tank tower appeared live crew member. Later there was also subjected to shock photo of T-90, which was on the Syrian repair plant. It has been reported that the machines were replaced by sights headroom and dynamic protection units.

    Notable are also the pictures, which show how the T-90 can withstand hit three rockets. According to the participants of the battle, the terrorists first fired one missile at a car, then two more. The first exploded on the approach, the second slightly damaged the caterpillar, and the third and all passed. The tank was able to continue driving and shooting.

    In the ranks of the SAR personnel, according to some sources, often sounded the opinion that a greater number of T-90 would facilitate rapid completion of combat operations in the country.

    According to an expert on the Syrian crisis Yuri Lyamina, quoted by "Herald of Mordovia", at the disposal of CAP are not more than three dozen T-90 government troops.

    - These tanks are spread along the front line. In one direction is not used for more than one company. For example, about Aleppo at the end of the past - the beginning of this years there were only about a dozen cars - said Ljamin.

    The publication also notes that since the advent of neither the T-90 was not destroyed in Syria. The only loss can be considered only capture militants in the Aleppo region in early June, almost serviceable tanks.
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    Post  Austin Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:04 am

    T-90MS in Kuwait

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:33 am

    That tank is sooo frustrating.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:43 am

    Does the T-90MS carry T-14 gun ? I've read that the main problem of the older gun was that you can't fit longer projectile which was a problem for the sabot munitions and couldn't give an apprpriate response to new US sabot rounds which are like 1m long.

    Is there an upgrade with that canon for T-90A/S already in service ?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:39 am

    Isos wrote:Does the T-90MS carry T-14 gun ? I've read that the main problem of the older gun was that you can't fit longer projectile which was a problem for the sabot munitions and couldn't give an apprpriate response to new US sabot rounds which are like 1m long.

    Is there an upgrade with that canon for T-90A/S already in service ?

    Nope MS has the 2A46M5, While the T-14 has a 2A82M(1?). Changes in breech (for pressure safety) but most importantly autoloader would be required. So unless the MS has a new turret with another autoloader, the tank will have to do with modernized rounds of legacy standards.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:21 am

    People are saying this is a realistic model of the rumored Burlak upgrade, notice the resemblance between this and the model of the Armata BMPT:

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:51 pm

    We have whole layout of Burlak upgrade and Proryv upgrade, so basically yes this is the turret in question.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:42 am

    Are we going to see this only on T-90's? are there any prospects to bring close all the T-72's to such an upgrade?
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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:17 pm

    New modernization of T-90 named T-90AM for domestic army is slightly different. It has new 2A82 125 mm MG (2A46M-5 for export version) with improved autoloader allowing long rods using, with 22 ready to use rounds (40 rounds all), 70% better barrel lifspan. -10 - 45 grad vertical and 316 grad horizontal angle

    http://igorrgroup.blogspot.co.nz/2011/09/new-information-pics-of-modernized-t-90.html
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    Post  Austin Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:30 am

    Russian Army eyes MBT upgrades
    Christopher F Foss, London - IHS Jane's International Defence Review

    http://www.janes.com/article/66105/russian-army-eyes-mbt-upgrades

    Russia may upgrade parts of its T-72 and T-90 main battle tank (MBT) fleets with the automatic target tracker (ATT) and fire control computer (FCC) installed in the Armata T-14 MBT, which is now entering production at UralVagonZavod's Nizhny Tagil facility.

    The installation of the ATT and the FCC from the T-14 Armata will improve the first round hit capability of the older T-72 and T-90 MBTs under adverse battlefield conditions, as well as reducing the workload on the gunner.

    Once locked on, the ATT constantly tracks the target and lays on the 125 mm smoothbore gun as well as taking into account inputs from the sensors, such as the speed and direction of the platform, condition of the gun, and ambient weather. The gunner then decides when to engage the target.

    The T-72B3 and T-90 MBTs selected to be upgraded will be those already fitted with the Kalina computerised fire control system (FCS), the latest version of which is installed in the T-14 Armata.

    The T-72B3 has been deployed on operations on the Russia/Ukraine border where it has demonstrated a high level of survivability because it is fitted with the latest generation Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour (ERA), which provides protection not only against missiles and rockets fitted with a high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead, but also kinetic energy projectiles.

    The decision to further enhance the capabilities of at least part of its existing MBT fleet could indicate that Russia will not replace the T-72 and subsequently the T-90 MBTs with the T-14 Armata on a one-for-one basis in the near term, and will continue to deploy a mixed MBT fleet.

    Russia has already decided to upgrade part of its T-80BV turbine-powered MBTs to extend their operational life, with the first of these to be handed over in 2017 from UralVagonZavod's Omsk facility.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:42 pm

    Retrofitting systems designed for Armata and other new generation vehicle families makes a lot of sense as it will improve performance of the older vehicles as well as increase production numbers of these systems which should reduce their costs.

    It would also reduce the number of system types doing the same job in different vehicles which eases training and maintainence.

    Note the TOR air defence system had an optical target tracker in the 1980s, as did the Pantsir and now even the Kornet-EM has one too.

    They greatly increase accuracy of tracking targets especially when receiving return fire in a combat situation.
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    Post  Arctic_Fox Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:17 am

    T-90M «Proryv-3»:
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    Post  Benya Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:34 pm

    Arctic_Fox wrote:T-90M «Proryv-3»:
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    From Defence Blog.

    Looks cool, but that bar-slat armor does not really eliminates that "shot trap" on the lower side of the turret front, at least it offers some protection against shaped charges like HEAT-FS shells or ATGMs/RPG grenades.
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    Post  Mike E Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:38 pm

    Why does that myth persist? There are no such things as "shot-traps" when the ammunition being fired is APFSDS or HEAT
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    Post  Austin Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:42 pm

    IS that the first prototype of T-90M Break-3 ? How does the Break-3 design differ from T-90MS ?
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    Post  x_54_u43 Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:01 am

    Austin wrote:How does the Break-3 design differ from T-90MS ?

    It is the domestic version, and therefore significantly better.
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    Post  A1RMAN Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:50 am

    Finally some news on Proryv-3. If they are gonna sign a contract, I wonder what will be the final number of upgraded tanks and how much time it gonna take. Keeping in mind almost 500 T-90MS for India.

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