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    Syrian War: News #15

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    Post  GarryB Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:05 pm

    Making explicit you do not want to apply the same criteria to all the pre-warning comments and your warning is made only to me.

    Wrong.

    I made it clear the warning applies to everyone.

    If you do no abuse anyone then you have nothing to fear... if anyone abuses anyone they will be banned.

    This is not about your intoxicator comments alone, this is about many different members abusing others... you posted examples yourself.

    The point is that it is enough, and I have stated there is to be no more.

    Two kids fighting and you separate them and say they need to stop it or they will get a smack on the backside.... if they don't do anything you can't just start whacking one because of something they were doing the day before that bothered you but you didn't do anything about at the time.

    The point is to encourage future good behaviour.... this is not a reckoning of past sins.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:36 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:40 pm

    PMU come to help out.

    Lucifuge Rofocale‏ @rofoca_lucifuge 4h4 hours ago

    #BREAKING Iraqi Hashd Al-Sha’abi (PMU) crossed into Syria and linked up with Syrian-Hezbollah force under the command of Qassem Suleimani


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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:57 pm

    Two views of the situation


    Минобороны России‏Verified account @mod_russia 3h3 hours ago

    The aerial photos of ISIS' territory north of #Deir_ez_Zor where #USA special operation troops are seen http://s.mil.ru/2jUyo2p


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    Liveuamap‏Verified account @Liveuamap 2h2 hours ago

    Russian MinDef claimed that "US SOF allow SDF to move via ISIS controlled area". False as area is controlled by SDF https://isis.liveuamap.com/?zoom=10&ll=35.65227488233256,40.271759033203125 …



    Grant Turnbull‏ @GrantTurnbull_ 3h3 hours ago

    Russ MoD releases detailed images showing location/strength of US SOF/SDF near #deir_ez_zor - compromising mission?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:08 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Минобороны России‏Verified account @mod_russia 3h3 hours ago

    The aerial photos of ISIS' territory north of #Deir_ez_Zor where #USA special operation troops are seen http://s.mil.ru/2jUyo2p


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKesNM7XoAEjNw_.jpg

    Oh mate, stop spreading Russian war propaganda. We all know only US is fighting ISIS and Russians protecting bloody dictator Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
    At least clown French clown diplomats in UN believe so

    The Ministry of Defense discovered American equipment in the areas of deployment of the ISIS  in Syria
    https://ria.ru/syria/20170924/1505437009.html

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    "With the help of aerial photographs that were made during the period from September 8 to September 12, 2017, in the areas of deployment of the armed units of the IG, * a large number of American armored cars such as the" Hammer ", which are in service with US special forces, were registered," the agency said on Facebook.

    The Defense Ministry notes that it is clearly visible in the photographs that US special forces are stationed in strong points where the IG * were previously stationed. At the same time, there are no traces of storming, clashes with terrorists or craters from the attacks of the international coalition aircraft around these facilities.
    "Despite the fact that the strong points of the US Armed Forces are located in the areas of the current deployment of the detachments of the IG *, they do not even have signs of military security, which can only mean that all US servicemen who live there feel themselves in areas held by terrorists in complete security, "the Ministry of Defense concluded.

    In addition, the Defense Ministry said that the US-controlled detachments of the "Syrian Democratic Forces" (SDS) unimpededly pass through occupied IG * territories in the direction of Deir ez Zor with the support of US special forces.
    At the moment, the Euphrates River valley is the only large area partially controlled by the IG *. Over the past few weeks, the soldiers of the Syrian army, with the support of Russian VCS, have made significant progress in freeing the territory from terrorists. So, in Deir ez Zor on September 5, the Syrian army broke through the more than three-year blockade of the city by the IG *. Government forces, supported by Russian aviation, also forced the Euphrates in the Deir-ez-Zor area, knocking out militants from a number of settlements, and developing an offensive in the east. The Arab-Kurdish detachments of the SDF and the coalition led by the United States storm the outpost of the IG * on the Euphrates - the city of Rakka.

    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/syria/20170924/1505437009.html
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:30 pm

    Al Masdar wrote:In the coming days, the Syrian Arab Army is expected to kickoff their offensive to retake a large portion of the Idlib-Hama border, marking the first time since late 2015 that they attempt to enter the southern countryside of the Idlib Governorate.
    The party's juse gettin' started. cheers
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    Post  yavar Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:19 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Two views of the situation


    Минобороны России‏Verified account @mod_russia 3h3 hours ago

    The aerial photos of ISIS' territory north of #Deir_ez_Zor where #USA special operation troops are seen http://s.mil.ru/2jUyo2p


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    Liveuamap‏Verified account @Liveuamap 2h2 hours ago

    Russian MinDef claimed that "US SOF allow SDF to move via ISIS controlled area". False as area is controlled by SDF https://isis.liveuamap.com/?zoom=10&ll=35.65227488233256,40.271759033203125 …

    Russ MoD releases detailed images showing location/strength of US SOF/SDF near #deir_ez_zor - compromising mission?

    Russia MoD: SAT Imges: US special ops equipment at ISIL positions in Syria تصاویر روسیه از سوریه


    The Russian Ministry of Defense has released aerial images which they say show US Army special forces equipment north of the town of Deir er-Zor, where ISIS militants are deployed
    https://www.rt.com/news/404365-us-special-forces-isis/

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    Post  calm Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:22 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    Al Masdar wrote:In the coming days, the Syrian Arab Army is expected to kickoff their offensive to retake a large portion of the Idlib-Hama border, marking the first time since late 2015 that they attempt to enter the southern countryside of the Idlib Governorate.
    The party's juse gettin' started. cheers

    looks like Tigers are going to Hama not Deir Ez Zor
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:06 pm

    Good secondary at 1.17 looks like LPG tanks venting quickly Smile

    Within Syria‏ @WithinSyriaBlog 1h1 hour ago

    New airstrike in the Syrian desert by the Iranian Shahed-129
    Shahed-129 has proven its strike capabilities


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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:22 pm

    watanisy‏
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    army captured Safwani - Mukarramiyah - Jurat Nazzal - Rasm Suwayd , east hom

    520 sq. km to go!

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    Post  airstrike Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:05 pm

    SDF seize strategic Conoco gas field in Deir ez-Zor

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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:15 pm

    airstrike wrote:SDF seize strategic Conoco gas field in Deir ez-Zor


    Since when is Conoco gas field strategic? dunno
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:55 pm

    calm wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    Al Masdar wrote:In the coming days, the Syrian Arab Army is expected to kickoff their offensive to retake a large portion of the Idlib-Hama border, marking the first time since late 2015 that they attempt to enter the southern countryside of the Idlib Governorate.
    The party's juse gettin' started. cheers

    looks like Tigers are going to Hama not Deir Ez Zor
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    Rather brave move by the SAA here.

    There is over 25k guys in that pocket, who will all work together once the syrians make any kind of progress and yes sure while the various groups dont like to work together they have proven they can and will in such cases.

    If Assad fumbles here that would cost him severely.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:23 pm

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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:28 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Syrian War: News #15 - Page 30 DKco4jHWAAAstey

    Rather brave move by the SAA here.

    There is over 25k guys in that pocket, who will all work together once the syrians make any kind of progress and yes sure while the various groups dont like to work together they have proven they can and will in such cases.

    If Assad fumbles here that would cost him severely.

    They haven't proven anything of the sort.
    Their track record is a series of strategic and tactical losses going 3 years straight, since Russia deployed.

    Their numbers are heavily inflated and their firepower is diminishing by the month. Full-time armed terrorists are about 10,000 and that number cannot be sustained by them 24/7, especially in locations away from their logistic centers, like home cities and villages.

    They can hardly keep Idlib countryside under control as it is. Their only advantage is that SAA cannot yet gather the needed numbers to invade and eliminate terrorists at that front of the war (they need over 30,000 deployed troops for that).


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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:28 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    airstrike wrote:SDF seize strategic Conoco gas field in Deir ez-Zor
    ..........
    Since when is Conoco gas field strategic? dunno

    Yup, from what I hear those wells are all pretty much dried up or close to it.



    SeigSoloyvov wrote:.....................
    Rather brave move by the SAA here.

    There is over 25k guys in that pocket, who will all work together once the syrians make any kind of progress and yes sure while the various groups dont like to work together they have proven they can and will in such cases.

    If Assad fumbles here that would cost him severely.

    That's kinda the whole point. They will all come into the same killzone and get bombed to shit by VKS. More the merrier.

    And more ''moderates'' will be added on the shit-list once they start officially palling up with AQ or whatever it's called these days.

    Assad can't fumble anything here because this will be aerial ops for the most part.

    25k guys now, much less k guys afterwards.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:35 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:25k guys now, much less k guys afterwards.

    25k is way over-inflated. If one puts part-timers, holiday terrorists from abroad and underage cannon fodder aside they barely have 2-3 motorized brigade's worth of forces there. My estimate is some 10,000 armed terrorists geared against SAA and some 5,000 more in internal security (derka derka derka) duties. All that fragmented between the various terror groups.

    The issue is SAA cannot deploy the required 3:1 (or ideally 5:1) ratio of forces to assault them. Yet.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:54 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:25k guys now, much less k guys afterwards.

    25k is way over-inflated. If one puts part-timers, holiday terrorists from abroad and underage cannon fodder aside they barely have 2-3 motorized brigade's worth of forces there. My estimate is some 10,000 armed terrorists geared against SAA and some 5,000 more in internal security (derka derka derka) duties. All that fragmented between the various terror groups.

    The issue is SAA cannot deploy the required 3:1 (or ideally 5:1) ratio of forces to assault them. Yet.

    Two ways to get to that ratio, the hard way - increase your own troops or the fast way - eliminate terrorists. Every terrorist eliminated saves moving 5 good guys up to the front.

    So, in come the MLRS and the Air Forces plus the occasional Kalibr. Otherwise known as force multipliers.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:17 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:25k guys now, much less k guys afterwards.

    25k is way over-inflated. If one puts part-timers, holiday terrorists from abroad and underage cannon fodder aside they barely have 2-3 motorized brigade's worth of forces there. My estimate is some 10,000 armed terrorists geared against SAA and some 5,000 more in internal security (derka derka derka) duties. All that fragmented between the various terror groups.

    The issue is SAA cannot deploy the required 3:1 (or ideally 5:1) ratio of forces to assault them. Yet.

    consider if we go by Russian estimates alone which have 16k guys in just one area of idlib. Which people here normally hail russia has dead accurate your number are beyond low balling.
    Heck some posted a map here before, where russia said this is how many guys are in idlib and it was over 20k.

    Now kilo I highly doubt you have better information gathering then the Ruskies or my guys for example.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:37 pm

    Think these might be based on official CENTCOM data or disinformation but not sure, from a SDF related site that carries CENTCOM announcements.

    SyriacMilitaryMFS‏ @SyriacMFS 11m11 minutes ago

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    Post  ATLASCUB Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:40 pm

    https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/135756/

    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/912026010895429632

    Russian Lieutenant-General, Valery Asapov, killed near Deir Ez Zor. "Our source in Syria says that the general and two colonels perished under mortar fire by precise guidance, the shell hit the command post"

    Someone's providing field intelligence for ops on Russians. Accidents need to happen on the "SDF" in Deir. It's the only way they understand...blood.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:54 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/135756/

    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/912026010895429632

    Russian Lieutenant-General, Valery Asapov, killed near Deir Ez Zor. "Our source in Syria says that the general and two colonels perished under mortar fire by precise guidance, the shell hit the command post"

    Someone's providing field intelligence for ops on Russians. Accidents need to happen on the "SDF" in Deir. It's the only way they understand...blood.

    Somebody didn't like the released sat pics. Not even a day has passed and these idiots felt compelled to take revenge like that. Suspect
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    Post  storm333 Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:03 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/135756/

    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/912026010895429632

    Russian Lieutenant-General, Valery Asapov, killed near Deir Ez Zor. "Our source in Syria says that the general and two colonels perished under mortar fire by precise guidance, the shell hit the command post"

    Someone's providing field intelligence for ops on Russians. Accidents need to happen on the "SDF" in Deir. It's the only way they understand...blood.

    They have already lost in Syria, so its preferable accidents happen during lethal weapons transfers in Ukraine. As for Deir, maybe we might see the Krasnopol in action targeting illegal occupation forces.
    Operational command has been clearly targeted, beginning with the attack on the PMC's, hence the reason for the strong condemnation of US SOF activities in Deir Ezzor, and the release of satellite imagery. (Side note. The annotations should have been in English as well.)
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:12 pm

    storm333 wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/135756/

    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/912026010895429632

    Russian Lieutenant-General, Valery Asapov, killed near Deir Ez Zor. "Our source in Syria says that the general and two colonels perished under mortar fire by precise guidance, the shell hit the command post"

    Someone's providing field intelligence for ops on Russians. Accidents need to happen on the "SDF" in Deir. It's the only way they understand...blood.

    They have already lost in Syria, so its preferable accidents  happen during lethal weapons transfers in Ukraine. As for Deir, maybe we might see the Krasnopol in action targeting illegal occupation forces.
    Operational command has been clearly targeted, beginning with the attack on the PMC's, hence the reason for the strong condemnation of US SOF  activities in Deir Ezzor, and the release of satellite imagery. (Side note. The annotations should have been in English as well.)
    Given their location, this General and his Colonels were probably on the way up the command structure, top men, the ones you do not want to lose. Moscow will not like this one little bit, they were theirs, it will take it very personally. Wonder where they will strike.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:23 pm

    storm333 wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/135756/

    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/912026010895429632

    Russian Lieutenant-General, Valery Asapov, killed near Deir Ez Zor. "Our source in Syria says that the general and two colonels perished under mortar fire by precise guidance, the shell hit the command post"

    Someone's providing field intelligence for ops on Russians. Accidents need to happen on the "SDF" in Deir. It's the only way they understand...blood.

    They have already lost in Syria, so its preferable accidents  happen during lethal weapons transfers in Ukraine. As for Deir, maybe we might see the Krasnopol in action targeting illegal occupation forces.
    Operational command has been clearly targeted, beginning with the attack on the PMC's, hence the reason for the strong condemnation of US SOF  activities in Deir Ezzor, and the release of satellite imagery. (Side note. The annotations should have been in English as well.)

    One of McGurks meetings going kaboom will be a respectable response. ISIS will take credit I'm sure. If not, Al-Qaeda.....or the PKK.


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