Syrian War: News #16

@Odin of Ossetia i don't want to highjack the thread i can discuss it further in PM

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back on topic Turks demanding US pull out forces from Manbij and you have Turkish proxies threatening to attack US forces

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201801271061117690-syria-manbij-us-forces-withdrawal/

calm wrote:Turkey says U.S. needs to withdraw from Syria's Manbij region immediately
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa-manbi/turkey-says-u-s-needs-to-withdraw-from-syrias-manbij-region-immediately-idUSKBN1FG0FY?il%3D0

Lol, What about withdraw from Turkey and retire their nuclear weapons?

LOL. Don't use Sputnik as a source. The advance is slow, because we didn't go on the offensive yet. Just some small advances here and there.

Nice and sunny weather conditions for this week in Afrin. Time for some more dead terrorists.









But I do agree that with Russian tanks, armored vehicles and jets we would have better results. US materials are poor quality.

By the way, radio antennas captured ..

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YPG captured by FSA

2 American scum killed, according to social media users.

Turkish army announces Syria's strategic Mt. Bursaya captured, activities to clear PYD/PKK terrorists from area continuing
https://twitter.com/anadoluagency/status/957592560272277504

Captagon(Fenethylline) pills found by OpOliveBranch forces in Birsaya mountain

UNSC 8167th meeting, Israel US, Iran forces in Syria شورای امنیت سازمان اسرائیل امریکا ایران

[quote="Cyberspec"]

PapaDragon wrote:'


Turkish Gunships in Afrin province

Thats the bnew Turkish made ATAK chopper.

But how stupid could you be as pilot to fligh so low in a manpad area?

The Ottoman wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:'


Turkish Gunships in Afrin province

Thats the bnew Turkish made ATAK chopper.

But how stupid could you be as pilot to fligh so low in a manpad area?

Most helicopters fly that low. Helicopters for the most part wont be able to avoid launches from manpads even if flying high. They have to rely more on countermeasures instead in a lot of cases.

[quote="miketheterrible"][quote="The Ottoman"][quote="Cyberspec"]

PapaDragon wrote:

Most helicopters fly that low. Helicopters for the most part wont be able to avoid launches from manpads even if flying high.  They have to rely more on countermeasures instead in a lot of cases.

That chopper is still way to low and close. It can seriously be damaged with dshk heavy machine gun. No need to risk the chopper for this. Only from high altitude maybe.

Its a very huge mistake that risked chopper and pilots' lives for no reason by flying in front of PKK column 3 times in low altitute like this.

I wish our pilots in that chopper will be sent to re-training so these kind of mistakes will not repeat ever again.

Its a brand new domestic T-129 ATAK-helicopter, worth millions, you will loose it and the two trained pilots wil die. I hope he gets punished for this.

Operation Olive Branch is the first step to prevent World War 3.

Turkey vs Israel
Russia vs USA
Iran vs Saudi Arabia

The Ottoman wrote:Operation Olive Branch is the first step to prevent World War 3.

At least there is a positive out of this fucking quagmire. Had a good laugh.

Current Russo-Turkish relations are very similar to pre WW1 relations of Ottomans and Germans.

Old enemies, but have to do something against bigger evil together...

The Ottoman wrote:

That chopper is still way to low and close. It can seriously be damaged with dshk heavy machine gun. No need to risk the chopper for this. Only from high altitude maybe.

Its a very huge mistake that risked chopper and pilots' lives for no reason by flying in front of PKK column 3 times in low altitute like this.

I wish our pilots in that chopper will be sent to re-training so these kind of mistakes will not repeat ever again.

Its a brand new domestic T-129 ATAK-helicopter, worth millions, you will loose it and the two trained pilots wil die. I hope he gets punished for this.

Obviously heavy machine gun fire is a threat when flying this low. I dont know what situation this was, but using the autocannon against ground targets like this can be interpreted in a number of ways. Perhaps the situation called for a quick response on a target of opportunity, or perhaps the heli was out of ammo for other weapon systems, and had to get in close for an emergancy CAS run. As pointed out before, it actually make sense to fly as low as possible in areas where MANPAD's have proliferated. IR seeker manpads for example will have a harder time locking on to its target when there is more background noise like a warm landscape. Against a clear and cold sky, the seeker will more easely lock on to the target, while the operator has a longer timespan to achieve a positive lock. The big mistake made by the crew here is not deploying chaffs or whatever countermeasures this helicopter is equipped with.

But how stupid could you be as pilot to fligh so low in a manpad area?

Flying lower makes you vulnerable to all small arms fire including 12.7mm cal rifles and MGs or larger, but flying higher makes you vulnerable in a real war to medium range SAMs... which will really fuck you up.

Flying at that altitude is OK if you have DIRCMs that will dazzle incoming optically guided missiles like MANPADS... you are otherwise safe from unguided rockets like RPGs but can still see targets and engage them too.

Breaking: Just got word - Syrian Army has captured Abu Dhuhour city

https://mobile.twitter.com/leithfadel/status/957937431407456256

It's starting to look like Korea down there...

Turkey sends flagpole to Afrin

https://twitter.com/immortal0077/status/958035408562147330



Apparently for Busayrah mountain...

Turkish Armed Forces and FSA are at the doors of Rajo






A YPG fighter blew herself up next to a Turkish tank. First kamikaze attack against the Turkish army since the beginning of operations in Afrin.





Their tactics on the ground are very identical to the ISIS that even they(PKK-affiliated USA ally YPG/SDF terrorists) use manipulative drugs before the fight, here is a footage taken today.




Some YPG-rats captured by FSA. They were screaming ''Hand us over to the Turks!''

Turkey entered in the FSA zone in Idlib-Aleppo. More than 100 vehicles, including armoured.


Iraq moves troops from Kirkut to the area of Mosul. The Iraqi army would be totally out of the province of Kirkuk.


Only people of weak mind is fooled by the Turks.

eehnie wrote:
Turkey entered in the FSA zone in Idlib-Aleppo. More than 100 vehicles, including armoured.

Only people of weak mind is fooled by the Turks.

Just an another observation/ceasefire zone under the Astana agreement.