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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:44 pm

    Yes, we wanted him gone. What was intended to replace him, was not what we actually wanted. France, Germany and UK more and more stepped back from fighting Assad.

    What we want prevent is islamism from taking over.

    Bullshit, the west funded the Islamist nutcases to try to overthrow Assad who is not an Islamist.
    Look at Egypt...USA under Obama toppled Mubarak and instlled the muslim Brotherhood. Something that was unacceptable for France and Germany. We funded a counter coup that toppled the american muppet and installed al-Sisi.

    Yes, you use your military power to manipulate and undermine democracy... you might as well be Stalin using force to impose the puppet regimes that appeal to you...

    Clear evidence that you cannot be trusted, your words a manipulations and doublespeak, and your intentions are thoroughly evil.

    You will get into bed with your most hated enemy to deal with a threat you preceive as being more urgent at the time... which makes you a hussy slut prostitute, yet you have the highest moral standards which you use to apply to your enemies and never yourself...

    Keep talking... people are noticing... your end is nigh.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:09 am

    USA under Obama toppled Mubarak and installed the Muslim Brotherhood.
    No, he was toppled by the protesters, & the US couldn't do much, like in Tehran in 1979; Muslim Brotherhood won the election before the military, which owns Egypt, stepped in. OTH, in Algeria the Islamists were going to win the election but were prevented from taking power, with the US help:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria#Civil_War_(1991%E2%80%932002)_and_aftermath
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:43 am

    Aristide wrote:Because Venzuela is so great?

    Ask the people

    https://scontent.fsgn5-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51109499_349141299020149_6436977639541440512_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQm-ivji9qu2X5Gd5Ep45L3MMGfSSpP0tbkRBo2VDe0IlVHRTNivNJR9TFcurxxTrRk&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn5-2.fna&oh=5cac34b2f046b48cdb0281a4db03de26&oe=5CFDE9F2

    Aristide wrote:What we want prevent is islamism from taking over.

    I am not convinced https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/52a1c37869bedd476f5aaefd-750-501.jpg

    Aristide wrote:Look at Egypt...USA under Obama toppled Mubarak and instlled the muslim Brotherhood. Something that was unacceptable for France and Germany. We funded a counter coup that toppled the american muppet and installed al-Sisi.

    Are you telling me that Egyptian people are not governing their countries, and they are being ruled by foreign-installed puppets and France are meddling with the politics of Egypt ? Interesting.
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:15 am

    Aristide wrote:I ss a catholic can tell you that i would spit that leftist, socialist and globalist slime in the face.

    Go. Sell everything you have and give all these to the poor. The follow Jesus. If you are rich you can't enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
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    Post  Aristide Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:24 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Aristide wrote:I ss a catholic can tell you that i would spit that leftist, socialist and globalist slime in the face.

    Go. Sell everything you have and give all these to the poor. The follow Jesus. If you are rich you can't enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

    Being wealthy is not a sin in catholic church. Communism is seen as a sin.

    According to Pius XII in his encyclical on atheistic communism, he supported capitalism. In the early 1900’s the church supported capitalism by making holding a communist ideology an excommunicable offense.

    The Church even produced propaganda about how bad communism is, through three shepherd children in Fatima. Our Lady of Fatima proclaimed that communism was a horrible thing and that to defeat it, one must pray the rosary.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:58 am

    Aristide wrote:According to Pius XII in his encyclical on atheistic communism, he supported capitalism. In the early 1900’s the church supported capitalism by making holding a communist ideology an excommunicable offense.

    Then the Catholic Church should excommunicate Jesus Christ then, post-humously.
    He was the first one to preach what we now know today as communist values after all.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:23 pm

    ++++
    You are also wrong about Libya. The Libyan oil is now owned by french and Italian oil companies.
    Good luck to them, they still don't own all of it & it's not going to last forever even if they do; but the US doesn't, & that's what I said!
    ..democracy in 3rd world shitholes doesent fund my fancy vacations ..
    Western colonialism & neocolonialism made them so; most recently under the banner of spreading Western style democracy- like the bygone Romans spreading their version of civilization they themselves learned from Etruscans & Greeks to barbarians & the Spaniards (& to the lesser extent, Portuguese, French, etc.) Christianity to heathens, with genocide, plunder & slavery as a bi-product.
    https://www.timemaps.com/civilizations/etruscans/


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    Post  Aristide Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:35 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:++++
    You are also wrong about Libya. The Libyan oil is now owned by french and Italian oil companies.
    Good luck to them, they still don't own all of it & it's not going to last forever even if they do; but the US doesn't, & that's what I said!
    ..democracy in 3rd world shitholes doesent fund my fancy vacations ..
    Western colonialism & neocolonialism made them so; most recently under the banner of spreading Western style democracy- like the bygone Romans spreading their version civilization to barbarians & the Spaniards (& to the lesser extent, Portuguese, French, etc.) Christianity to heathens, with genocide & slavery as a bi-product.

    I think we talk into the air.

    Yes, we own all of the Libyan oil. We play both sides and the contracts went to TOTAL and ENI. Before we had to deal with Kadhafi, now we have direct acess.

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    And i think most of the places were shitholes before we conquered them. At least for our standard. The Aztec empire was a hell. Same was the Inka empire. Africa was always a shithole.

    France gains much of its economic power from our former colonies. We still have them 100% dependend on us. If we would lose control over them, our luxury would drop by 30%.

    I´m not willing to give up my living standard.

    Also evry country has interests. You may accept that it is in french interests to get rid of Maduro.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:28 pm

    And i think most of the places were shitholes before we conquered them. At least for our standard. The Aztec empire was a hell. Same was the Inka empire. Africa was always a shithole.
    All of Christian medieval Europe except Venice, Florence & perhaps Scandinavia was even more a hell before 1492. It's only after the discovery of the New World & the Far East with its new crops, furs, & inventions that European living standards become better. If those overseas lands & their peoples were shitholes & subhumans not worth anything, why bother colonize them?
    France gains much of its economic power from our former colonies. We still have them 100% dependend on us. If we would lose control over them, our luxury would drop by 30%.
    U contradict urself again & again: in other posts (go back & read them), u insisted that French colonies r a loss/liability, not profitable to keep.
    Ur arguments don't hold water.
    I really regret that the Mongols or Germans/English didn't take what is now France & Spain.
    Then there wouldn't be such assholes & scum like u walking on earth.
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    Post  Aristide Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:09 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    And i think most of the places were shitholes before we conquered them. At least for our standard. The Aztec empire was a hell. Same was the Inka empire. Africa was always a shithole.
    All of Christian medieval Europe except Venice, Florence & perhaps Scandinavia  was even more a hell before 1492. It's only after the discovery of the New World & the Far East with its new crops, furs, & inventions that European living standards become better. If those overseas lands & their peoples were shitholes & subhumans not worth anything, why bother colonize them?  
    France gains much of its economic power from our former colonies. We still have them 100% dependend on us. If we would lose control over them, our luxury would drop by 30%.
    U contradict urself again & again: in other posts (go back & read them), u insisted that French colonies r a loss/liability, not profitable to keep.
    Ur arguments don't hold water.
    I really regret that the Mongols or Germans/English didn't take what is now France & Spain.
    Then there wouldn't be such assholes & scum like u walking on earth.

    I dont contradict. When we had them as colonies, we had to build infrastructure and care for their basic needs. By releasing them in independence but keeping them under our boots, we get the good stuff minus the costs to care for them.

    We get our uranium almost for free from Mali and Niger for example. We have one of lowest energy prices in the world because of that.

    Look at me, i can concentrate on my personal training. Work to get my body into best shape possible. Concentrate on travel, style, tech and relax.

    My lifestyle is possible because others fund it. When i enjoy a cruise on a french cruise ship, there are hundred of 3rd worlders working under deck to make that life style possible.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:04 pm

    Look at me, i can concentrate on my personal training. Work to get my body into best shape possible.

    That's the problem with many Westerners: they don't cultivate their mind as much as their bodies! Ur high opinion of urself is based on the ability of exploiting & manipulating others & gloating about it. But learning from history is useless &/ beyond ur capability. There was a revolt in Ancient Egypt when the slaves became slave owners. The Indians, Haitians, & Chinese massacred their British, French & Portuguese masters. The Civil War is still the bloodiest conflict in USA history. A lot less Southerners would have died w/o their former black slaves fighting on the Union side.
    Bhutan, Japan & Siam, now Thailand, which were never as hellish as Europe, didn't allow themselves to be colonized, Christianized, & democratized along the western lines- as a result, they r now a lot better off then former European colonies. Ms of tourists from around the world visit them, & Ms of Japanese been visiting Europe & the Americas since 1945.
    OTH, the Muslim Turks also colonized Iran, the ME, the Balkans, & N. Africa; those peoples fared better & r very lucky that they weren't colonized by "civilzed" Europeans!
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    Post  Aristide Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:09 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    Look at me, i can concentrate on my personal training. Work to get my body into best shape possible.

    That's the problem with many Westerners: they don't cultivate their mind as much as their bodies! Ur high opinion of urself is based on the ability of exploiting & manipulating others & gloating about it. But learning from history is useless &/ beyond ur capability. There was a revolt in Ancient Egypt when the slaves became slave owners. The Indians, Haitians, & Chinese massacred their British, French & Portuguese masters. The Civil War is still the bloodiest conflict in USA history. A lot less Southerners would have died w/o their former black slaves fighting on the Union side.
    Bhutan, Japan & Siam, now Thailand, which were never as hellish as Europe, didn't allow themselves to be colonized, Christianized, & democratized along the western lines- as a result, they r now a lot better off then former European colonies. Ms of tourists from around the world visit them, & Ms of Japanese been visiting Europe & the Americas since 1945.
    OTH, the Muslim Turks also colonized Iran, the ME, the Balkans, & N. Africa; those peoples fared better & r very lucky that they weren't colonized by "civilzed" Europeans!
     

    Turkey is a shithole, so is Iran and the Balkan.

    Yes, i havd a high opinion about myself. Thats a good thing actually. I know i look good and i know im smart. This helps me to be confident and achieve my goals.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:42 pm

    Turkey is a shithole, so is Iran and the Balkan.
    Stop repeating the same mantra, it stinks! To some, France is a shithole- As Ho Chi Minh said: "..The French are foreigners. They are weak. Colonialism is dying. The white man is finished in Asia. But if the Chinese stay now, they will never go. As for me, I prefer to sniff French shit for five years than to eat Chinese shit for the rest of my life.”
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/351943-you-fools-don-t-you-realize-what-it-means-if-the

    In July, the Serbs seized the “safe” Srebrenica, massacring the male Muslim population there. Dutch peacekeepers who were in the city did not even try to intervene in what was happening. 10 years after the events, the retired Dutch captain Henrik van der Waach said the following: “The officer’s duty is to refuse undue risk and save the lives of subordinates. We did not have such an order - to die, saving Muslims or anyone else. The Dutch government recognized its responsibility and resigned, but I assure you that not a single politician of our country would have decided to give such an order, because later he would have to give an account to the families of the victims.”
    Of course, someone will see this as a wonderful European humanism, but in fact there is a complete moral degradation. The so-called military considered it necessary to save their own skins instead of protecting civilians, although this protection was at least imputed to them in direct duty, but at the most they should have considered this also their moral duty. This fact, in conjunction with the aforementioned surrender of 300 Frenchmen, had already demonstrated that the European military were such only in name. They go to the army solely for the sake of receiving money, and in the event of war, their only task is to save their own skin.
    http://nvo.ng.ru/nvo/2019-01-31/1_1032_true.html

    I've visited the former French Canada, & besides some fine buildings, it didn't impress me at all. They push their "unique" status with road signs only in French, while the rest of Canada has bilingual signs, as French Canadians live in all the other provinces as well.
    Yes, i havd a high opinion about myself. Thats a good thing actually. I know i look good and i know im smart.
    No, it's not good. If ur mind is full of such garbage, nothing useful can be learned. This attitude is what caused French defeats by the Russians, Germans & Vietnamese. U praise urself & stay in this delusion of grandeur while actually mentally degrading. But being humble allows 1 to improve. That's why in Asia it is a virtue. A case in point: a true Oriental martial arts expert considers every unknown opponent, even a 5 year old child, as the most skillful in the world, to mobilize all his skills & learn something new. That's why Asian arts of all kinds, including the art of living, r the best in the world.
    This helps me to be confident and achieve my goals.
    What r they? Getting richer & travel more? Good luck, pursue ur happiness! But the sooner u realize that happiness starts from within, the better it will be for u, every1 else around u, & us on this forum!

    They do have light oil: If imported diluents including naphtha are not available, PDVSA is forced to use the little production of light crude the country has for mixing with its extra heavy oil so exportable grades can be formulated.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-oil-blends/pdvsa-mixing-heavy-and-light-oil-due-to-lack-of-diluents-sources-idUSKCN1PW2WV?rpc=401&

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-venezuela-politics-maduro-oil/venezuelas-maduro-warns-oil-sales-blockade-would-be-catastrophic-idUKKCN1PX1ZG

    https://outline.com/JUEJzu

    As I was saying: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2569592.html


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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:41 pm

    Aristide wrote:France gains much of its economic power from our former colonies. We still have them 100% dependend on us. If we would lose control over them, our luxury would drop by 30%.

    Did Aristide make it clear that France care nothing about the well-being of small countries and only aim to enslave and bloodsuck other countries.

    So why should Venezuela care about France opinion about her own politics ? Clearly France support the opposition in Venezuela so that France can suck Venezuela dry, not because France care about democracy or justice.

    Aristide wrote:I dont contradict. When we had them as colonies, we had to build infrastructure and care for their basic needs.

    Guess who owned most of these infrastructure and most of the income and benefit of these infrastructure went to whom ? The French companies, of course. And some very few local people in the upper class who cooperated closely with French imperialism.

    Majority of the common people lived under pathetic living standard.

    In Vietnam, under the "care" of French colonialism, 95% of the population could not read and write.

    Manufacture was weak and mainly designed for digging raw material.

    In agriculture, old, feudalism method based mainly on cheap labor was maintained. Most of the agri land was concentrated on rich landlords and French businessmen.

    Taxes was high. Illogical and inhuman "poll tax" was not abolished. Wages was mostly pathetic.

    Gambling, prostitution, alcoholism and drugs were rampant. In fact, drug and alcohol consumption was encouraged and enforced for the profit of French enterprises in this sector. Domestic production of alcohol was surpressed so that French companies could monopolize the market.

    Tsavo Lion wrote:That's the problem with many Westerners: they don't cultivate their mind as much as their bodies! Ur high opinion of urself is based on the ability of exploiting & manipulating others & gloating about it.

    The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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    Post  Aristide Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:01 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    Turkey is a shithole, so is Iran and the Balkan.
    Stop repeating the same mantra, it stinks! To some, France is a shithole- As Ho Chi Minh said: "..The French are foreigners. They are weak. Colonialism is dying. The white man is finished in Asia. But if the Chinese stay now, they will never go. As for me, I prefer to sniff French shit for five years than to eat Chinese shit for the rest of my life.”
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/351943-you-fools-don-t-you-realize-what-it-means-if-the

    In July, the Serbs seized the “safe” Srebrenica, massacring the male Muslim population there. Dutch peacekeepers who were in the city did not even try to intervene in what was happening. 10 years after the events, the retired Dutch captain Henrik van der Waach said the following: “The officer’s duty is to refuse undue risk and save the lives of subordinates. We did not have such an order - to die, saving Muslims or anyone else. The Dutch government recognized its responsibility and resigned, but I assure you that not a single politician of our country would have decided to give such an order, because later he would have to give an account to the families of the victims.”
    Of course, someone will see this as a wonderful European humanism, but in fact there is a complete moral degradation. The so-called military considered it necessary to save their own skins instead of protecting civilians, although this protection was at least imputed to them in direct duty, but at the most they should have considered this also their moral duty. This fact, in conjunction with the aforementioned surrender of 300 Frenchmen, had already demonstrated that the European military were such only in name. They go to the army solely for the sake of receiving money, and in the event of war, their only task is to save their own skin.
    http://nvo.ng.ru/nvo/2019-01-31/1_1032_true.html

    I've visited the former French Canada, & besides some fine buildings, it didn't impress me at all. They push their "unique" status with road signs only in French, while the rest of Canada has bilingual signs, as French Canadians live in all the other provinces as well.
    Yes, i havd a high opinion about myself. Thats a good thing actually. I know i look good and i know im smart.
    No, it's not good. If ur mind is full of such garbage, nothing useful can be learned. This attitude is what caused French defeats by the Russians, Germans & Vietnamese. U praise urself & stay in this delusion of grandeur while actually mentally degrading. But being humble allows 1 to improve. That's why in Asia it is a virtue. A case in point: a true Oriental martial arts expert considers every unknown opponent, even a 5 year old child, as the most skillful in the world, to mobilize all his skills & learn something new. That's why Asian arts of all kinds, including the art of living, r the best in the world.
    This helps me to be confident and achieve my goals.
    What r they? Getting richer & travel more? Good luck, pursue ur happiness! But the sooner u realize that happiness starts from within, the better it will be for u, every1 else around u, & us on this forum!

    They do have light oil: If imported diluents including naphtha are not available, PDVSA is forced to use the little production of light crude the country has for mixing with its extra heavy oil so exportable grades can be formulated.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-oil-blends/pdvsa-mixing-heavy-and-light-oil-due-to-lack-of-diluents-sources-idUSKCN1PW2WV?rpc=401&

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-venezuela-politics-maduro-oil/venezuelas-maduro-warns-oil-sales-blockade-would-be-catastrophic-idUKKCN1PX1ZG

    https://outline.com/JUEJzu

    As I was saying: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2569592.html

    A european soldier has the duty to protect europeans. I would not risk my life to save non europeans. The dutch regiment acted right. Why risk their lifes for people they have nothing in common with?

    Its like driving your car into a tree just to save a bunny on the street.

    The death of those in that city was a necessary sacrifice. In the end the goal was fullfilled. Serbia defeated. Now its part of our sphere of influence and under our boot.

    Your naivity is amazing.

    As for Asia, what did Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia get? After we left they felt into chaos and war. Cambodia got one of the most tyrannical regimes that ever existed on this planet and then constant wars.

    More bombs were dropped on Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia than in entire Europe in WW I and WWII combined. The legacy of Agent Orange will follow Vietnam for thousands of years.

    A perfect example how the system works are our luxury cruise ships.

    French operate some of the best ships on the seas. The command is french, the passengers are french, other euroepans and americans. The low crew are south asian. They work hard down there. They get minimum wages. They work 6 months without a single free day. They work under extreme harsh conditions.

    You dont even see them. They are invisible. Like little gnomes, doeing all the work.

    And you know what? Even so they have low status i´m one of the few who actually treates them like people. When i encounter one of them in the ship, i do greet them. Most simply walk next to them and treat them like air.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:31 am

    Aristide wrote:Why risk their lifes for people they have nothing in common with? Its like driving your car into a tree just to save a bunny on the street.

    These are humans, not bunnies.

    Are you telling us you will not stop your car if in front of you is an old Asian man ? Are you telling us you will roll over him ?

    Aristide wrote:The death of those in that city was a necessary sacrifice. In the end the goal was fullfilled. Serbia defeated. Now its part of our sphere of influence and under our boot.

    Am I the only one who think that this comment is disgusting ?

    Aristide wrote:As for Asia, what did Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia get?

    You didn't left. You returned to re-introduced your colonial rule on Indochina with guns and tanks. You made a war and killed people to crush the patriotic movement there.

    Aristide wrote:After we left they felt into chaos and war.

    What the f*** is this shit ?

    France and America sent troops to Indochina and waged a lengthy war here, and now you blame the local people for that war ?

    Aristide wrote:More bombs were dropped on Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia than in entire Europe in WW I and WWII combined. The legacy of Agent Orange will follow Vietnam for thousands of years.

    Are you telling us that we should blame the local people for being bombed and massacred by foreign powers ?

    Are you trying to say that foreign power's bombing at Indochina is justified and Asian countries should submit under colonial rule ?

    Do you tell us that it was the local people's fault for fighting for their own independence ?

    Aristide wrote:Cambodia got one of the most tyrannical regimes that ever existed on this planet and then constant wars.

    Cambodia was a stable country until Western powers imposed their regime-change on Cambodia, ousted Sihanouk to insert a Western puppet there.

    It is the West who pushed Cambodia into chaos.

    Take a look at the map of America's bombing sites in Cambodia and figure out yourself why Cambodian people at that time were eager to follow anybody who opposed American hegemony, even a murderer scumbag like Pol Pot.

    Aristide wrote:A perfect example how the system works are our luxury cruise ships.

    French operate some of the best ships on the seas. The command is french, the passengers are french, other euroepans and americans. The low crew are south asian. They work hard down there. They get minimum wages. They work 6 months without a single free day. They work under extreme harsh conditions.

    You dont even see them. They are invisible. Like little gnomes, doeing all the work.

    And you know what? Even so they have low status i´m one of the few who actually treates them like people. When i encounter one of them in the ship, i do greet them. Most simply walk next to them and treat them like air.

    So basically you are telling us that French companies do not respect their worker, French businessmen mistreat the laborer, France has a terrible working condition ?

    You are telling us that France encourages racial discrimination and violation of human rights ?

    Is that the image of France that you are trying to broadcast to the whole world ?
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    Post  Aristide Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:57 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Aristide wrote:Why risk their lifes for people they have nothing in common with? Its like driving your car into a tree just to save a bunny on the street.

    These are humans, not bunnies.

    Are you telling us you will not stop your car if in front of you is an old Asian man ? Are you telling us you will roll over him ?

    Aristide wrote:The death of those in that city was a necessary sacrifice. In the end the goal was fullfilled. Serbia defeated. Now its part of our sphere of influence and under our boot.

    Am I the only one who think that this comment is disgusting ?

    Aristide wrote:As for Asia, what did Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia get?

    You didn't left. You returned to re-introduced your colonial rule on Indochina with guns and tanks. You made a war and killed people to crush the patriotic movement there.

    Aristide wrote:After we left they felt into chaos and war.

    What the f*** is this shit ?

    France and America sent troops to Indochina and waged a lengthy war here, and now you blame the local people for that war ?

    Aristide wrote:More bombs were dropped on Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia than in entire Europe in WW I and WWII combined. The legacy of Agent Orange will follow Vietnam for thousands of years.

    Are you telling us that we should blame the local people for being bombed and massacred by foreign powers ?

    Are you trying to say that foreign power's bombing at Indochina is justified and Asian countries should submit under colonial rule ?

    Do you tell us that it was the local people's fault for fighting for their own independence ?

    Aristide wrote:Cambodia got one of the most tyrannical regimes that ever existed on this planet and then constant wars.

    Cambodia was a stable country until Western powers imposed their regime-change on Cambodia, ousted Sihanouk to insert a Western puppet there.

    It is the West who pushed Cambodia into chaos.

    Take a look at the map of America's bombing sites in Cambodia and figure out yourself why Cambodian people at that time were eager to follow anybody who opposed American hegemony, even a murderer scumbag like Pol Pot.

    Aristide wrote:A perfect example how the system works are our luxury cruise ships.

    French operate some of the best ships on the seas. The command is french, the passengers are french, other euroepans and americans. The low crew are south asian. They work hard down there. They get minimum wages. They work 6 months without a single free day. They work under extreme harsh conditions.

    You dont even see them. They are invisible. Like little gnomes, doeing all the work.

    And you know what? Even so they have low status i´m one of the few who actually treates them like people. When i encounter one of them in the ship, i do greet them. Most simply walk next to them and treat them like air.

    So basically you are telling us that French companies do not respect their worker, French businessmen mistreat the laborer, France has a terrible working condition ?

    You are telling us that France encourages racial discrimination and violation of human rights ?

    Is that the image of France that you are trying to broadcast to the whole world ?

    Are you kidding me? Of course i would drive over an old asian men when my only other option would be to crash into a tree and die myself. What a strange question.

    And no, im telling you how shipping lines operate. Italian and german lines also use south asians as cheap workers. Working conditions are still better for them than in their home countries. Thats why they are happy to sign the contract. Keep in mind they can leave any day if they are unhappy with the work on the ship.

    I respect their hard work. I could not do that. I mean its funny. I train alot and have each day 2 to 3 h fitness training. So from fitness level im magnitudes better than them. But im not used to do hard work. I need fun and constant entertainment. I get easily bored and find hard work not fitting for me.

    Most french are like that. Thats why we pay others to do the hard work. I could never work on a field or such stuff.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:05 pm

    A european soldier has the duty to protect europeans. I would not risk my life to save non europeans.
    The Balkans, incl. former Yugoslavia, r populated by Europeans, FYI!
    Religion has nothing to do with race/ethnicity. The Turks had Christian boys brought up as Muslims & trained them as soldiers, called Janissaries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries
    Keep in mind they can leave any day if they are unhappy with the work on the ship.
    Not while at sea!
    I train alot and have each day 2 to 3 h fitness training. So from fitness level im magnitudes better than them. But im not used to do hard work. I need fun and constant entertainment. I get easily bored and find hard work not fitting for me.
    Most french are like that. Thats why we pay others to do the hard work. I could never work on a field or such stuff.
    So much narcissism! Western bodybuilding depletes internal organs at the expense of bigger muscle mass. In a few years, u won't be healthy anymore. I'm sure those Asians below decks can beat u up even with less developed muscles, as they know how to use them. And u won't be able to wear body armor & carry a weapon in French uniform & under the French flag. The Foreign Legion is only a small part of the French military. So u better put ur life were ur filthy mouth is, or stop talking shit about others history!
    That's a good example of the the moral decadence that destroyed the Romans. Importing foreign labor will change France as well.
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    Post  Aristide Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:25 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    A european soldier has the duty to protect europeans. I would not risk my life to save non europeans.
    The Balkans, incl. former Yugoslavia, r populated by Europeans, FYI!
    Religion has nothing to do with race/ethnicity. The Turks had Christian boys brought up as Muslims & trained them as soldiers, called Janissaries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries
    Keep in mind they can leave any day if they are unhappy with the work on the ship.
    Not while at sea!
    I train alot and have each day 2 to 3 h fitness training. So from fitness level im magnitudes better than them. But im not used to do hard work. I need fun and constant entertainment. I get easily bored and find hard work not fitting for me.
    Most french are like that. Thats why we pay others to do the hard work. I could never work on a field or such stuff.
    So much narcissism! Western bodybuilding depletes internal organs at the expense of bigger muscle mass. In a few years, u won't be healthy anymore. I'm sure those Asians below decks can beat u up even with less developed muscles, as they know how to use them. And u won't be able to wear body armor & carry a weapon in French uniform & under the French flag. The Foreign Legion is only a small part of the French military. So u better put ur life were ur filthy mouth is, or stop talking shit about others history!
    That's a good example of the the moral decadence that destroyed the Romans. Importing foreign labor will change France as well.

    I should be more specific then. By europeans i mean western european.

    And yes, those ships dock at most days at a new harbor. Longest period at sea is maybe a week. So they can easily cancel their contract and leave if they dont want work on our ships.

    Whats your problem with narcissm? I love my looks and i´m happy with myself. And please, i dont take steroids. I eat healthy, train healthy. Just as my father does as well. We are a very fit family.

    And please...beat me up? Do you believe i beat myself with others like dogs in a street? I think i stand above such things. I have news for you, tools exist to solve such things. I hunt with my grandfather. We dont kill the animals with our teeth but shoot them.

    We dont import foreign labor. The ships are not in France. They dont get french citizenship. After their contract ends they get kicked off the boat and leave back home.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:53 pm

    By europeans i mean western european.
    Then, what those Dutch & French troops were doing there? Showing their flags & groping girls while pretending to deliver humanitarian assistance & preventing genocide?
    Whats your problem with narcissm? I love my looks and i´m happy with myself. And please, i dont take steroids. I eat healthy, train healthy. Just as my father does as well. We are a very fit family.
    That should be ur problem. Go work as a male model & make a better living then praising urself- let others admire u if u indeed look like a Greek statue. Btw, Greeks r not W. Europeans, but they colonized W. Med. Sea incl. Spanish & French coasts, leaving their genes there. And Alexander the Great was/is honored, incl. by Napoleon, & isn't being demeaned for being E/S. European!
    And please...beat me up? Do you believe i beat myself with others like dogs in a street? I think i stand above such things.
    Even if a carry a gun all the time, it can be knocked/kicked out or taken away- will u be able to defend urself & others u care about against an Asian street fighter? I very much doubt it!
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    Post  Aristide Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:21 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    By europeans i mean western european.
    Then, what those Dutch & French troops were doing there? Showing their flags & groping girls while pretending to deliver humanitarian assistance & preventing genocide?
    Whats your problem with narcissm? I love my looks and i´m happy with myself. And please, i dont take steroids. I eat healthy, train healthy. Just as my father does as well. We are a very fit family.
    That should be ur problem. Go work as a male model & make a better living then praising urself- let others admire u if u indeed look like a Greek statue. Btw, Greeks r not W. Europeans, but they colonized W. Med. Sea incl. Spanish & French coasts, leaving their genes there. And Alexander the Great was/is honored, incl. by Napoleon, & isn't being demeaned for being E/S. European!
    And please...beat me up? Do you believe i beat myself with others like dogs in a street? I think i stand above such things.
    Even if a carry a gun all the time, it can be knocked/kicked out or taken away- will u be able to defend urself & others u care about against an Asian street fighter? I very much doubt it!

    I actually earn some money with small model jobs and also had some small roles in tv production.

    Beside that i think im very much capable to defend myself and those i care for. I just dont act like a filthy street dog.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:21 pm

    I actually earn some money with small model jobs and also had some small roles in tv production.
    Lets see those video clips!
    If were as good looking as u think u r, u would be at least as famous as Allen Delon or even Apollo by now.
    Beside that i think im very much capable to defend myself and those i care for. I just dont act like a filthy street dog.
    Unless u train every day in empty hand & traditional weapons martial arts, it's just a matter of ur opinion, just like ur self-declared high IQ.
    "Those who speak don't know; those who know don't speak"- Lao Tsu. That includes boasting!
    Asian masters also avoid brawls & petty fights, but do get challenged on occasion by others.
    U do act like a filthy self-centered racist here, expecting others to agree with ur shallow & twisted logic which been shown to be unsupported by real historical & other facts. So much for ur supposed high culture. For this, u deserve 0 respect. Enough said!
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:59 pm

    In any case, good looks isn't indicative of high IQ. Btw, the current Pope is a Jesuit, & their methods r not any different than what u been describing about the French:


    So, as bad as he may be in ur judgement, u should still follow him!
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    Post  Aristide Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:05 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    I actually earn some money with small model jobs and also had some small roles in tv production.
    Lets see those video clips!
    If were as good looking as u think u r, u would be at least as famous as Allen Delon or even Apollo by now.
    Beside that i think im very much capable to defend myself and those i care for. I just dont act like a filthy street dog.
    Unless u train every day in empty hand & traditional weapons martial arts, it's just a matter of ur opinion, just like ur self-declared high IQ.
    "Those who speak don't know; those who know don't speak"- Lao Tsu. That includes boasting!
    Asian masters also avoid brawls & petty fights, but do get challenged on occasion by others.
    U do act like a filthy self-centered racist here, expecting others to agree with ur shallow & twisted logic which been shown to be unsupported by real historical & other facts. So much for ur supposed high culture. For this, u deserve 0 respect. Enough said!

    Its obvious that im not stupid.

    Its also obvious that France is a leading country in the world. We obviously do something right. Also french culture is quite popular in the world.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:13 pm

    Its also obvious that France is a leading country in the world. We obviously do something right.

    Does that include failed domestic policies that led to yellow vest protests? They may be a violent regime change in Paris if they r not changed! https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2569701.html


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