Watch out for the dosage of acetaminophen.
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Watch out for the dosage of acetaminophen.
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Next time some "medical authority" tells you what is the "truth", consider the nonsense on which this "truth" rests.
There is a peculiar pattern here. The official advice goes contrary to the actual science. I doubt that this is a random
phenomenon.
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If you want to ruin your health, let your doctor lead you by the nose and take the statins he prescribes for your "high cholesterol".
If you care about your health, inform yourself how to control your cholesterol by other means, you will get many more benefits.
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The so-called medical experts giving you diet advice are not even following established medical textbooks.
Isn't that interesting. That is a type of confidence artist shtick.
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An example of fake science in one of the textbooks which cites the typical and absurd rodent study where
a high carb diet is combined with fats and the fats are blamed for insulin resistance (IR). The "researchers" who
put out such trash are criminals. Maybe they are idiots, but that is unlikely.
Note how it serves the interests of Big Pharma and the food industry and agriculture for the actual science on IR
to be obfuscated. The set of diseases created by IR are curable but instead get a slew of pharmaceutical
symptom treatments as if they are unrelated and cannot be cured.
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I would never let any "doctor" force me to take a statin. These pushers are serving Big Pharma and could
care less about my health.
If you think this is all tin foil hat inanity, then explain the patently dangerous diet advice that these clowns peddle.
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They have these seed vaults. Yet, Monsanto is selling farmers these 1 & done seeds that seem to be poisoning the land, and don't germinate. I'm trying to figure out the plan here.
Global warming, war, drought, over-industrialization, etc. GMO seeds produced by chemical companies are decimating agriculture for entire countries. If the world ever wakes up and bans that crap, we'll need these seeds to have a shot at starting over. It's not just climate change effects but also corporate greed that is contributing to the lack of biodiversity.
The seeds are all well and good but what about insects and the like to pollinate them? Do they have a back up plan for the insects and maybe even the animals or are they just out of luck?
I want to know has RUSSIA don't anything like this? It would be smart.
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/last-resort-the-seeds-kept-safe-in-a-south-korean-mountain/article34705199.ece
Global warming, war, drought, over-industrialization, etc. GMO seeds produced by chemical companies are decimating agriculture for entire countries. If the world ever wakes up and bans that crap, we'll need these seeds to have a shot at starting over. It's not just climate change effects but also corporate greed that is contributing to the lack of biodiversity.
The seeds are all well and good but what about insects and the like to pollinate them? Do they have a back up plan for the insects and maybe even the animals or are they just out of luck?
I want to know has RUSSIA don't anything like this? It would be smart.
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/last-resort-the-seeds-kept-safe-in-a-south-korean-mountain/article34705199.ece
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Russia does not allow GMO agriculture. I am not sure about seed vaults but Russian farmers are not controlled through GMO
seeds. So the seeds are more natural and diverse.
https://www.rareseeds.com/blog/post/putins-move-to-go-gmo-free
Meanwhile we have all sorts of "legit" outfits like Cornell University claiming that GMO is good and healthy. The west is rotten.
seeds. So the seeds are more natural and diverse.
https://www.rareseeds.com/blog/post/putins-move-to-go-gmo-free
Meanwhile we have all sorts of "legit" outfits like Cornell University claiming that GMO is good and healthy. The west is rotten.
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There are lots of seed banks that countries around the world contribute seeds to... like this one:
Russia has banned GM seeds AFAIK so they will be using normal seed for their crops.
Seeds are easy to store for very long periods and will still grow... animals and insects on the other hand...
Maybe the future of western swarm drones will be to replace the insects their pesticides wipe out to pollinate plants... ironic...
Global warming, war, drought, over-industrialization, etc. GMO seeds produced by chemical companies are decimating agriculture for entire countries. If the world ever wakes up and bans that crap, we'll need these seeds to have a shot at starting over. It's not just climate change effects but also corporate greed that is contributing to the lack of biodiversity.
Russia has banned GM seeds AFAIK so they will be using normal seed for their crops.
The seeds are all well and good but what about insects and the like to pollinate them? Do they have a back up plan for the insects and maybe even the animals or are they just out of luck?
Seeds are easy to store for very long periods and will still grow... animals and insects on the other hand...
Maybe the future of western swarm drones will be to replace the insects their pesticides wipe out to pollinate plants... ironic...
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The number of yearly cancer deaths in the US increased from 580,350 to 606,520 from
2013 to 2020. This is 4.3% and the total number of cases has increased by 8.1% in the same
period. People always claim that old age is the reason that cancer rates go up. This is total BS.
The US population did not age by 8.1% in 7 years.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/241494/median-age-of-the-us-population/
The median age of the US population went from 37.6 to 38.4 between 2013 and 2019.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
The US is not an old-age dominated population by a long shot. The over 60 population
fraction is not steering the statistics.
It is now certain that cancer is closely tied to metabolic damage of mitochondria.
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Link to the research article cited in the above video:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2015.00043/full
Once again we have dogma passed off as knowledge. The never ending feature of human society going back to the beginning
of human time.
People are trained by the media environment to have floppy logic. So, contradictory conditions are treated as plausible. The
somatic mutation theory cannot be true by definition since it is refuted by multiple lines of evidence. The arrogance of the
establishment is not a substitute for this and does not make this dogma true. Also, the preening pretentiousness is extreme.
The somatic mutation theory does not even start to explain the mechanism of cancer. It is a scratching of the surface that
attempts the impose a Mickey Mouse attribution to a sequence of gene mutations which do not even happen in general. The
theoreticians do not even understand how those genes function, in particular the epigenetic environment including the actual
biochemical processes. Some simple tags are not enough to understand the complex chemical dynamics.
The mitochondria don't just sit there. They are part of the epigenetic environment of the cell. They interact with the DNA
in the nucleus. It is apparent that there is a symbiosis between the nucleus and the mitochondria. The regulation of the
cellular metabolism requires a coupling of the RNA to protein process including the feedback on the sequencing of the RNA which
is controlled by gene expression.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2015.00043/full
Once again we have dogma passed off as knowledge. The never ending feature of human society going back to the beginning
of human time.
People are trained by the media environment to have floppy logic. So, contradictory conditions are treated as plausible. The
somatic mutation theory cannot be true by definition since it is refuted by multiple lines of evidence. The arrogance of the
establishment is not a substitute for this and does not make this dogma true. Also, the preening pretentiousness is extreme.
The somatic mutation theory does not even start to explain the mechanism of cancer. It is a scratching of the surface that
attempts the impose a Mickey Mouse attribution to a sequence of gene mutations which do not even happen in general. The
theoreticians do not even understand how those genes function, in particular the epigenetic environment including the actual
biochemical processes. Some simple tags are not enough to understand the complex chemical dynamics.
The mitochondria don't just sit there. They are part of the epigenetic environment of the cell. They interact with the DNA
in the nucleus. It is apparent that there is a symbiosis between the nucleus and the mitochondria. The regulation of the
cellular metabolism requires a coupling of the RNA to protein process including the feedback on the sequencing of the RNA which
is controlled by gene expression.
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Omega-6 laden industrial seed oils are cancer.
In case someone thinks this is all tin foil hat inanity:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17023268/
Actual mitochondrial DNA damage from sunflower oil. Oh my.
In case someone thinks this is all tin foil hat inanity:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17023268/
Actual mitochondrial DNA damage from sunflower oil. Oh my.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/outcry-in-brazil-over-photos-of-people-scavenging-through-animal-carcasses
Outcry in Brazil over photos of people scavenging through animal carcasses
Pictures of destitute Brazilians searching scraps for food lay bare scale of economic and social crisis
Just remember that Brasil is one of the top agricultural manufacture and exporter in the world. 25% of Brasil GDP come from agriculture.
But poverty is severe in Brasil, and the poor people have to scevenging carcasses to fulfill their basic needs of food.
In short, Brasilian people is starving to death over the huge piles of food which was made not for them, but for satisfying the profit of the 1% rich who manipulate the economy at the expense of the people.
Poverty and starvation in the modern world is clearly not because of a lack of productivity. It is because the manufacture and production is manipulated by the 1% rich and the working class have no say in it.
Outcry in Brazil over photos of people scavenging through animal carcasses
Pictures of destitute Brazilians searching scraps for food lay bare scale of economic and social crisis
Just remember that Brasil is one of the top agricultural manufacture and exporter in the world. 25% of Brasil GDP come from agriculture.
But poverty is severe in Brasil, and the poor people have to scevenging carcasses to fulfill their basic needs of food.
In short, Brasilian people is starving to death over the huge piles of food which was made not for them, but for satisfying the profit of the 1% rich who manipulate the economy at the expense of the people.
Poverty and starvation in the modern world is clearly not because of a lack of productivity. It is because the manufacture and production is manipulated by the 1% rich and the working class have no say in it.
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People have to understand that mass poverty is part of the economic model and not incidental. Resource colonies
cannot be allowed to develop properly since that would divert cheap resources from the colonialists (USA, etc.)
The mass poverty also serves as a means to obtain nearly cost-free labour enabling offshoring rackets by developed
world elites. So poverty in the "developing" world helps keep wages down in the developed world.
I can already hear some apologist chiming in that if workers get paid too much, then that is bad for the economy.
How? What law of physics requires a few clowns to rake in 99% of the money? By this logic, all the places like
Haiti should be doing super well in terms of economics.
Greed rules most of the world. The modern economic order is the same one that was there 200 years ago and serves
the same stratified wealth structure. The elites want it all and will walk over dead bodies to grab the filthy lucre.
Failure of alternative systems proves jack shit. Communism was derailed in the USSR to a large extent because
it could not adopt a democratic model due to open aggression from the "democratic" west. I heard one academic
claim that communism is incompatible with democracy. Total BS. It is an economic system just like capitalism. How
are capitalist oligarchs essential to democracy? Is democracy the buying out of politicians and circumvention of the
electorate through lobbying?
Real democracy would be more compatible with communism precisely because there are no actors (oligarchs) who control
most the economy and thereby exert political power. Communism does not have to be some equalist nonsense either
where janitors are paid more than successful managers. All of the vaunted advantages of capitalist corporate entities
can be had by communist enterprises. The Soviet GosPlan was not intrinsic to communism and was a failure because
centralized economic decision making is pathologically inefficient. I know this first hand even in Canada. Western
corporations exhibit the same pathology when the decision making is over centralized on various activities that should
be local and decentralized. Russia is currently developing an economic model that resembles what I am talking about.
No GosPlan and state owned corporations that act like market entities with the priority on their own activity instead of
being cogs in some Rube Goldberg machine.
cannot be allowed to develop properly since that would divert cheap resources from the colonialists (USA, etc.)
The mass poverty also serves as a means to obtain nearly cost-free labour enabling offshoring rackets by developed
world elites. So poverty in the "developing" world helps keep wages down in the developed world.
I can already hear some apologist chiming in that if workers get paid too much, then that is bad for the economy.
How? What law of physics requires a few clowns to rake in 99% of the money? By this logic, all the places like
Haiti should be doing super well in terms of economics.
Greed rules most of the world. The modern economic order is the same one that was there 200 years ago and serves
the same stratified wealth structure. The elites want it all and will walk over dead bodies to grab the filthy lucre.
Failure of alternative systems proves jack shit. Communism was derailed in the USSR to a large extent because
it could not adopt a democratic model due to open aggression from the "democratic" west. I heard one academic
claim that communism is incompatible with democracy. Total BS. It is an economic system just like capitalism. How
are capitalist oligarchs essential to democracy? Is democracy the buying out of politicians and circumvention of the
electorate through lobbying?
Real democracy would be more compatible with communism precisely because there are no actors (oligarchs) who control
most the economy and thereby exert political power. Communism does not have to be some equalist nonsense either
where janitors are paid more than successful managers. All of the vaunted advantages of capitalist corporate entities
can be had by communist enterprises. The Soviet GosPlan was not intrinsic to communism and was a failure because
centralized economic decision making is pathologically inefficient. I know this first hand even in Canada. Western
corporations exhibit the same pathology when the decision making is over centralized on various activities that should
be local and decentralized. Russia is currently developing an economic model that resembles what I am talking about.
No GosPlan and state owned corporations that act like market entities with the priority on their own activity instead of
being cogs in some Rube Goldberg machine.
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"Determine what the consensus in the medical community about a subject, then the opposite is true".
And you are supposed to trust these clowns on the safety and efficacy of mRNA non-vaccines.
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higurashihougi wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/outcry-in-brazil-over-photos-of-people-scavenging-through-animal-carcasses
Outcry in Brazil over photos of people scavenging through animal carcasses
Pictures of destitute Brazilians searching scraps for food lay bare scale of economic and social crisis
Just remember that Brasil is one of the top agricultural manufacture and exporter in the world. 25% of Brasil GDP come from agriculture.
But poverty is severe in Brasil, and the poor people have to scevenging carcasses to fulfill their basic needs of food.
In short, Brasilian people is starving to death over the huge piles of food which was made not for them, but for satisfying the profit of the 1% rich who manipulate the economy at the expense of the people.
Poverty and starvation in the modern world is clearly not because of a lack of productivity. It is because the manufacture and production is manipulated by the 1% rich and the working class have no say in it.
This is horrifying.
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The FDA is a scumbag outfit serving the interests of Big Pharma. These freak show bureaucracies are what gives you unproven
mRNA "vaccines".
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Selective breeding has corrupted fruits into sugar bombs.
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18607185/
Glycation affects LDL in non-diabetics. Glycated LDL is much more readily oxidized than regular LDL. It is oxidized
LDL that is a key element in atherosclerotic plaque formation.
So keep guzzling those starches and fructose/glucose.
"High saturated fat intake is bad for you" is a claim that is utterly not backed by any empirical evidence or even hypothetical
process. "Consume heart-healthy vegetable oils instead" is criminal misinformation since these omega-6 industrial seed oils
induce insulin resistance and damage mitochondria. So they contribute to development of both heart disease and cancer.
Glycation affects LDL in non-diabetics. Glycated LDL is much more readily oxidized than regular LDL. It is oxidized
LDL that is a key element in atherosclerotic plaque formation.
So keep guzzling those starches and fructose/glucose.
"High saturated fat intake is bad for you" is a claim that is utterly not backed by any empirical evidence or even hypothetical
process. "Consume heart-healthy vegetable oils instead" is criminal misinformation since these omega-6 industrial seed oils
induce insulin resistance and damage mitochondria. So they contribute to development of both heart disease and cancer.
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kvs wrote:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18607185/
Glycation affects LDL in non-diabetics. Glycated LDL is much more readily oxidized than regular LDL. It is oxidized
LDL that is a key element in atherosclerotic plaque formation.
So keep guzzling those starches and fructose/glucose.
"High saturated fat intake is bad for you" is a claim that is utterly not backed by any empirical evidence or even hypothetical
process. "Consume heart-healthy vegetable oils instead" is criminal misinformation since these omega-6 industrial seed oils
induce insulin resistance and damage mitochondria. So they contribute to development of both heart disease and cancer.
I am far from healthy. I am overweight (although trying to fix that). Not like in the avatar I use but still am on the chubby side. So I had to cut sugar for most part out of my diet completely. If I want soda, it is diet. If I want some kind of sweet, I eat fruit of some sort.
My weakness is chocolate almonds. That shit is deadly good and I have to go through electro shock therapy like Bruce lee did with donuts to get me to stay away from them.
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miketheterrible wrote:kvs wrote:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18607185/
Glycation affects LDL in non-diabetics. Glycated LDL is much more readily oxidized than regular LDL. It is oxidized
LDL that is a key element in atherosclerotic plaque formation.
So keep guzzling those starches and fructose/glucose.
"High saturated fat intake is bad for you" is a claim that is utterly not backed by any empirical evidence or even hypothetical
process. "Consume heart-healthy vegetable oils instead" is criminal misinformation since these omega-6 industrial seed oils
induce insulin resistance and damage mitochondria. So they contribute to development of both heart disease and cancer.
I am far from healthy. I am overweight (although trying to fix that). Not like in the avatar I use but still am on the chubby side. So I had to cut sugar for most part out of my diet completely. If I want soda, it is diet. If I want some kind of sweet, I eat fruit of some sort.
My weakness is chocolate almonds. That shit is deadly good and I have to go through electro shock therapy like Bruce lee did with donuts to get me to stay away from them.
I won the genetic lottery of having both sides of my family with type 2 diabetes. So you can guess about my weight.
After waking up earlier this year and realizing that intermittent fasting actually works and is based on solid science and
understanding of the mechanism, I have begun my path to recovery. I have lost 50 pounds already without any serious
effort (some exercise such as cycling and long walks) and without even a diet shift. A long time ago I lost a lot of weight
by doing keto and a lot of exercise but fell off the wagon. The key is to focus on controlling the insulin and not the calories.
The routine advice is to control the calories and that it is fine to eat regularly. This is total nonsense since humans cannot
burn fat with food induced elevated insulin levels and without a lot of exercise. But the exercise required becomes too
much if you have a job and other obligations. And athletes on high carb diets still get metabolic syndrome even when
they are in their prime.
Low calorie diets just slow down the metabolism and when you stop the weight increases higher than before. This is the
core of the yoyo diet problem. Fasting allows an enormous calorie reduction without slowing down the metabolism. The
body burns its fat stores so it does not get the signal that it is starving. You do get "hunger" especially when you start
fasting but this is basically a conditioned reflex mediated by ghrelin and can be fixed with drinking some slightly salted water.
I am on alternate day fasting where I do not eat for 36 to 42 hours depending on what I feel like. I have skipped the routine
for a few days here and there but I know that I need to get to my target. It is not any sort of ordeal and I think I will make
it a lifestyle.
I am now going on the keto diet since fasting is not a cure-all. Eating high carb still does long term damage to the arteries,
joints, eyes, brain and organs. Of course, fasting greatly reduces the load and allows repair processes to function but why
take two steps forward and 1.5 steps back? Keto is actually the diet that our metabolism is designed for. We cannot
consume fruits 24/7/365. Our genetics is actually not adapted to consume rice, wheat products and potatoes as staples.
The only thing is that we do not die from this diet after a short period of time. It destroys our health over decades.
Keto is not a high protein, zero carb diet. It is about replacing sugary fruits with green vegetables since they have even
more nutritional value (minerals, vitamins, phyto compounds). Do not drink any store bought juice. It is pasteurized sugar
water and a waste of money. If you want oranges, then eat oranges. Green vegetables (specifically the cruciferous ones)
are a better choice and their carb content is released slowly due to being blocked by fiber. Vegetables keep your gut
biome functioning properly. Living off sugar (starch is essentially sugar) and processed carbs results in gut problems including
leaky gut and overpopulation of bad bacteria.
Keto puts more emphasis on protein but it is also about more reasonable fat intake. Protein still induces an insulin spike but
much less than processed carbs. Protein does not elevate blood sugar which is really good. But too much protein is not good
either (too much detail to get into). The balancing satiation factor is true healthy fats (butter, animal fats, olive oil, coconut oil)
which allow reduction in protein and carb intake without any negative health effects.
If you want desserts, then have a special splurge day. Do not do them every day.
Make sure to consume egg yolks. They are a source of vitamin K2. Vitamin K2 enables calcium transfer from soft tissues
(e.g. artery walls) and into the bones where it is supposed to go. The medical advice for females with osteoporosis is to
take vitamin D and calcium supplements. As usual, this is grossly incompetent advice. Vitamin D is important, but without K2
it cannot facilitate the delivery of calcium to the bones. So taking the calcium supplement just results in hardening of the
arteries. Also, there no such thing as "vitamin K". Vitamin K1 is involved in blood clotting and injury repair and it is not similar
to K2 in its function. K1 is typically converted into K2 by fermentation bacteria. A source of large amounts of K2 is Japanese
natto (fermented soy beans) and you can buy K2 supplements from this source. Anyway, most people are deficient in K2 like
in D.
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