Syrian War: News #18

Assad will attack why wouldn't he? I would if I was him. Do you have any idea how many head choppers are there? you have any idea how many people want to leave via the corridors russia setup but cannot because those terrorists want them there to serve as human shields and to die to get the international community to help?. No Those rats needs to be cleaned out, they tried to reason with them military action is all that's left.

That said Assad will not use chemical weapons it doesn't serve his interest AT ALL to use them, he knows he will be bombed all to hell if he does, and chemical weapons generally do not win wars they are annoying pests at best so it offers him no real military edge to use them either.

If they are used it was by Al-Qaeda to blame Assad, the rebels have all the incentive here to use them not Assad, why would he risk losing everything he fought and achieved for at this point with a pointless chemical weapons attack, that would be pure and utter insanity and idiocy for him to do and Assad is no fool.

Aristide wrote:I guess Assad will attack now. I hope they dont use chemical weapons. Afaik the european countries including France want to stabilize Syria and another chemical attack would push all that back.

Sorry?? Are you joking?

No. This guy is beyond....reasonable in his....thought process.

Just read his previous posts. Guy is a joke and a big reason why this site is a joke.

miketheterrible wrote:No. This guy is beyond....reasonable in his....thought process.

Just read his previous posts. Guy is a joke and a big reason why this site is a joke.

A 24 year old and French. Explains a lot.

Three contrasting piccys from Syria. The guys in the last one are clearly well set up to make a mess of someone's day.

Looks like it has started. Maybe that gun is now in use.


Qalaat Al Mudiq
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19m19 minutes ago

Qalaat Al Mudiq Retweeted Qalaat Al Mudiq

#Syria: one month after sending 1st convoy & one day after #Tehran summit, Regime sources announce start of (Greater) #Idlib Offensive. Heavy pre-emptive bombardment by #RuAF & #SyAF on N. #Hama & S.-SE. #Idlib CS.


Yusha Yuseef
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59m59 minutes ago

#Exclusive | military source in Tiger forces to me : The Battle of Idlib begin

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Assad will attack why wouldn't he? I would if I was him. Do you have any idea how many head choppers are there? you have any idea how many people want to leave via the corridors russia setup but cannot because those terrorists want them there to serve as human shields and to die to get the international community to help?. No Those rats needs to be cleaned out, they tried to reason with them military action is all that's left.

That said Assad will not use chemical weapons it doesn't serve his interest AT ALL to use them, he knows he will be bombed all to hell if he does, and chemical weapons generally do not win wars they are annoying pests at best so it offers him no real military edge to use them either.

If they are used it was by Al-Qaeda to blame Assad, the rebels have all the incentive here to use them not Assad, why would he risk losing everything he fought and achieved for at this point with a pointless chemical weapons attack, that would be pure and utter insanity and idiocy for him to do and Assad is no fool.

You propably understand me wrong?

I have a PR problem with this issue. Russians, Syrians, Iranians tend to be very bad in PR.

1. I dont think corridors are good. Nobody should be let out. Those who are there, are there because they want to be there. By allowing them alive, you just rise the next generation of terrorists.

2. Kill them off screen. Assads mistake was, that he allowed pictures and videos to go outside such areas.

3. Dont use chemical weapons. France has a high interest to gain acess to Syria.Same counts for all mayor european powers. Its from biggest importance to not allow any bullshit like chemical weapons to spoil this. Kill traditional.

4. Push Iran back. Iran is a public relations burden. You fight head choppers with head choppers.

I think best would be if Russia does it alone, without doubtful "partners".

Dont fuck it up. Putin wants western support and Syria gets expensive. This now is the test if we can move towards a more progressive solution.

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:No. This guy is beyond....reasonable in his....thought process.

Just read his previous posts. Guy is a joke and a big reason why this site is a joke.

A 24 year old and French. Explains a lot.

What exactly does it explain? I want that any islamist presence in Syria gets crushed. Well ...islamism...i hate islam in general but hey i take what i get.

The problem is, that if Russia and Assad act clumsy...its hard for France or other european powers to join in.

Some big mistakes were done in the past. From us and also from Russia. Now its time to restore relations and find a solution, where we can deport alot of trash that made it into Europe.

France has proven in the past to be very flexible regarding its friends. We can find a solution regarding Syria. Just dont spoil it with idiotic decissions like using chemical weapons.

The only thig that matters for me, is that France is secure and keeps its face.

So if you have to kill anyone in Idlib, be free to do so, but do it behind closed curtains.

Refugee corridors are brilliant both from a humanitarian and PR perspective.

You do realise that there are significant numbers of 'locals' still in Iblib don't you? You know, the ones who's families may well have been there since the crusades or longer. Do you want them trapped and killed?

You sound like the kind of person in favour of slaughtering all in a besieged town.

Aristide wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Assad will attack why wouldn't he? I would if I was him. Do you have any idea how many head choppers are there? you have any idea how many people want to leave via the corridors russia setup but cannot because those terrorists want them there to serve as human shields and to die to get the international community to help?. No Those rats needs to be cleaned out, they tried to reason with them military action is all that's left.

That said Assad will not use chemical weapons it doesn't serve his interest AT ALL to use them, he knows he will be bombed all to hell if he does, and chemical weapons generally do not win wars they are annoying pests at best so it offers him no real military edge to use them either.

If they are used it was by Al-Qaeda to blame Assad, the rebels have all the incentive here to use them not Assad, why would he risk losing everything he fought and achieved for at this point with a pointless chemical weapons attack, that would be pure and utter insanity and idiocy for him to do and Assad is no fool.

You propably understand me wrong?

I have a PR problem with this issue. Russians, Syrians, Iranians tend to be very bad in PR.

1. I dont think corridors are good. Nobody should be let out. Those who are there, are there because they want to be there. By allowing them alive, you just rise the next generation of terrorists.

2. Kill them off screen. Assads mistake was, that he allowed pictures and videos to go outside such areas.

3. Dont use chemical weapons. France has a high interest to gain acess to Syria.Same counts for all mayor european powers. Its from biggest importance to not allow any bullshit like chemical weapons to spoil this. Kill traditional.

4. Push Iran back. Iran is a public relations burden. You fight head choppers with head choppers.

I think best would be if Russia does it alone, without doubtful "partners".

Dont fuck it up. Putin wants western support and Syria gets expensive. This now is the test if we can move towards a more progressive solution.

You forget that there's also civilians in those areas and they didn't have the choice and most are being held as human shields. You think the west won't intervene when assad blanket bombs every single inch of idilib and kills every single human being then your wrong. Getting local fighters to give up arms is a logical process most are misguided and brainwashed as for foreign fighters they won't give up and want to die which is fine let them. The best win win situation for assad is put pressure on terrorists get a vast amount to reconcile leaving the remaining to be in a weak combat position then easier to kill. This also saves SAA troops lives as well as civilians. Turkey will play an important role in getting those to reconcile. And at the same time the west will hate it as it ain't going the way they want it and expect more dirty tricks from them as they get desperate to prolong the war and cost more hassle for Russia and Assad.

Assad cannot control pictures or videos getting out....the man is not some all-powerful omnipotent being.

Controlling pictures and videos is easy to do. China proves it. Mobile phones and most other modern technology combines pics and videos with geo data. Those meta data can be used to block
it. I assume Assad and Russia have acess to the net in Syria ect. By doing so you get rid of 80% of data.

As i said Russia and Assad acty clumsy regarding that. France currently is at war in Niger and Mali. Do you see any videos circulating? No.

As for corridors...i´m sceptical and see the risk that scum gets out. I have not much respect for those "people" there.

Syria must be stabilized. France was wrong in the past and the mistakes must be corrected. Thats only possible with a government we can support there without losing face.

When we have too many terrorists in Syria running wild, the conflict will continue. Which is bad for business.

That said, i hope Putin doesnt let things escalate like in Crimea. I fly with my girl to Australia next Wednesday. I dont know the exact flight corridor but we have a transfer in Dubai, so we propably fly close Syria.

Isos wrote:

Aristide wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:No. This guy is beyond....reasonable in his....thought process.

Just read his previous posts. Guy is a joke and a big reason why this site is a joke.

A 24 year old and French. Explains a lot.

What exactly does it explain? I want that any islamist presence in Syria gets crushed. Well ...islamism...i hate islam in general but hey i take what i get.

The problem is, that if Russia and Assad act clumsy...its hard for France or other european powers to join in.

Some big mistakes were done in the past. From us and also from Russia. Now its time to restore relations and find a solution, where we can deport alot of trash that made it into Europe.

France has proven in the past to be very flexible regarding its friends. We can find a solution regarding Syria. Just dont spoil it with idiotic decissions like using chemical weapons.

The only thig that matters for me, is that France is secure and keeps its face.

So if you have to kill anyone in Idlib, be free to do so, but do it behind closed curtains.

LOL

US used thousands of tonnes of chemical weapons in vietnam, they contamined all irak and Yougoslavia with uranium, they lied just to destroy iraq. They transformed all afghan people by killing their family members into "talibans" while they just want to revenge their death because most of US G.I's are stupid and brainwashed.

What did France and Macron said about about that ? They sucked Obama and nato generals and even gave a peace nobel price to this guy who made more interventions in the world than any other guy in the history. Nothing more.

It's really funny to see them saying they care about chemical attacks in a conflict they made.

You can use whatever you want. Just do it not in public. I have no problem with abc weapons. What i care for is PR.

The chemical plant we bombed in Damascus, was build by France. Maybe we get the contract to build a new one.

You have the problem that you cant divide between words and what we do.

France is not "pro human rights". Its a charade.

Aristide wrote:Controlling pictures and videos is easy to do. China proves it. Mobile phones and most other modern technology combines pics and videos with geo data. Those meta data can be used to block
it. I assume Assad and Russia have acess to the net in Syria ect. By doing so you get rid of 80% of data.

As i said Russia and Assad acty clumsy regarding that. France currently is at war in Niger and Mali. Do you see any videos circulating? No.

As for corridors...i´m sceptical and see the risk that scum gets out. I have not much respect for those "people" there.

Syria must be stabilized. France was wrong in the past and the mistakes must be corrected. Thats only possible with a government we can support there without losing face.

When we have too many terrorists in Syria running wild, the conflict will continue. Which is bad for business.

That said, i hope Putin doesnt let things escalate like in Crimea. I fly with my girl to Australia next Wednesday. I dont know the exact flight corridor but we have a transfer in Dubai, so we propably fly close Syria.

China is not stupid they have everything linked together but I can still find videos or Chinese army or police doing illegal shit.

This is Syria, not CHINA. You have guys with phones, devices that go past any network Assad controls. There is no possible wat Assad can stop pictures or video getting out of Syria.

You act like the guy controls all the data streams and satellites he doesn't. You really don't know what your talking about here.

"france currently is at war in Niger and Mali. Do you see any videos circulating? No."

Considering they aren't at war that all depends what you mean by it. These are also many different situations, where no one is interested but every major power has their eyes on Syria.

Your statement has no factual standing.

JohninMK wrote:Looks like it has started. Maybe that gun is now in use.


Qalaat Al Mudiq
‏ @QalaatAlMudiq
19m19 minutes ago

Qalaat Al Mudiq Retweeted Qalaat Al Mudiq

#Syria: one month after sending 1st convoy & one day after #Tehran summit, Regime sources announce start of (Greater) #Idlib Offensive. Heavy pre-emptive bombardment by #RuAF & #SyAF on N. #Hama & S.-SE. #Idlib CS.


Yusha Yuseef
‏Verified account @MIG29_
59m59 minutes ago

#Exclusive | military source in Tiger forces to me : The Battle of Idlib begin

I thought that it was agreed in Tehran, that a military offensive would not happen and that the terrorists would be given a chance to surrender, so why the offensive?

Aristide wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Assad will attack why wouldn't he? I would if I was him. Do you have any idea how many head choppers are there? you have any idea how many people want to leave via the corridors russia setup but cannot because those terrorists want them there to serve as human shields and to die to get the international community to help?. No Those rats needs to be cleaned out, they tried to reason with them military action is all that's left.

That said Assad will not use chemical weapons it doesn't serve his interest AT ALL to use them, he knows he will be bombed all to hell if he does, and chemical weapons generally do not win wars they are annoying pests at best so it offers him no real military edge to use them either.

If they are used it was by Al-Qaeda to blame Assad, the rebels have all the incentive here to use them not Assad, why would he risk losing everything he fought and achieved for at this point with a pointless chemical weapons attack, that would be pure and utter insanity and idiocy for him to do and Assad is no fool.

You propably understand me wrong?

I have a PR problem with this issue. Russians, Syrians, Iranians tend to be very bad in PR.

1. I dont think corridors are good. Nobody should be let out. Those who are there, are there because they want to be there. By allowing them alive, you just rise the next generation of terrorists.

2. Kill them off screen. Assads mistake was, that he allowed pictures and videos to go outside such areas.

3. Dont use chemical weapons. France has a high interest to gain acess to Syria.Same counts for all mayor european powers. Its from biggest importance to not allow any bullshit like chemical weapons to spoil this. Kill traditional.

4. Push Iran back. Iran is a public relations burden. You fight head choppers with head choppers.

I think best would be if Russia does it alone, without doubtful "partners".

Dont fuck it up. Putin wants western support and Syria gets expensive. This now is the test if we can move towards a more progressive solution.

I don't think Putin wants wests support because he know that there is none, there is nothing the west will get out of supporting Russia in Syria and everyone knows this.

As for killing all the terrorists, if the terrorists are ready to surrender, than there is no point in fighting them, just have them hand over all their weapons and they can go to western countries like France

Iran has invested a lot in Syria and it would be foolish to ask them to go back and if they did it would mean Russia would have commit more resources to Syria and that is not something Russia wants.

par far wrote:

Aristide wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Assad will attack why wouldn't he? I would if I was him. Do you have any idea how many head choppers are there? you have any idea how many people want to leave via the corridors russia setup but cannot because those terrorists want them there to serve as human shields and to die to get the international community to help?. No Those rats needs to be cleaned out, they tried to reason with them military action is all that's left.

That said Assad will not use chemical weapons it doesn't serve his interest AT ALL to use them, he knows he will be bombed all to hell if he does, and chemical weapons generally do not win wars they are annoying pests at best so it offers him no real military edge to use them either.

If they are used it was by Al-Qaeda to blame Assad, the rebels have all the incentive here to use them not Assad, why would he risk losing everything he fought and achieved for at this point with a pointless chemical weapons attack, that would be pure and utter insanity and idiocy for him to do and Assad is no fool.

You propably understand me wrong?

I have a PR problem with this issue. Russians, Syrians, Iranians tend to be very bad in PR.

1. I dont think corridors are good. Nobody should be let out. Those who are there, are there because they want to be there. By allowing them alive, you just rise the next generation of terrorists.

2. Kill them off screen. Assads mistake was, that he allowed pictures and videos to go outside such areas.

3. Dont use chemical weapons. France has a high interest to gain acess to Syria.Same counts for all mayor european powers. Its from biggest importance to not allow any bullshit like chemical weapons to spoil this. Kill traditional.

4. Push Iran back. Iran is a public relations burden. You fight head choppers with head choppers.

I think best would be if Russia does it alone, without doubtful "partners".

Dont fuck it up. Putin wants western support and Syria gets expensive. This now is the test if we can move towards a more progressive solution.

I don't think Putin wants wests support because he know that there is none, there is nothing the west will get out of supporting Russia in Syria and everyone knows this.

As for killing all the terrorists, if the terrorists are ready to surrender, than there is no point in fighting them, just have them hand over all their weapons and they can go to western countries like France  

Iran has invested a lot in Syria and it would be foolish to ask them to go back and if they did it would mean Russia would have commit more resources to Syria and that is not something Russia wants.

Putin desperately needs western support.

When Assad made a new law to confiscare property of syrians who left Syria, german chancellor Merkel talked to Putin to influence Assad to stop this, simply because Germany wants to get rid of Syrians.

Few days later Assad stopped it.

We all know that Assad is nothing but a puppet. If we want get shit done in Syria, we talk with Putin. Syria is a very costly adventure for Russia. Putin had to stop the retirement reform he planned, because people demonstrated. Russia cant afford Syria as puppet state forever.

On the other side we want profitable business in Syria.

And no, the terrorists will not go here. You either kill them or we have to kill them. They are already dead anyways. They just dont know yet.

Beside that, its not just the fighters. All there must suffer. Tey must be broken. Men, women and children as well.

Russia may not have that much experience with colonies, but you better learn fast. You can only hold Syria, when you wiped out any oppossition. Syria is chaos. And the ally of order is fear.

Aristide wrote:

Putin desperately needs western support.

When Assad made a new law to confiscare  property of syrians who left Syria, german chancellor Merkel talked to Putin to influence Assad to stop this, simply because Germany wants to get rid of Syrians.

Few days later Assad stopped it.

We all know that Assad is nothing but a puppet. If we want get shit done in Syria, we talk with Putin. Syria is a very costly adventure for Russia. Putin had to stop the retirement reform he planned, because people demonstrated. Russia cant afford Syria as puppet state forever.

On the other side we want profitable business in Syria.

And no, the terrorists will not go here. You either kill them or we have to kill them. They are already dead anyways. They just dont know yet.

Beside that, its not just the fighters. All there must suffer. Tey must be broken. Men, women and children as well.

Russia may not have that much experience with colonies, but you better learn fast. You can only hold Syria, when you wiped out any oppossition. Syria is chaos. And the ally of order is fear.

The best thing France could do is join Russia in ousting the Turkish terrorists from Syria.  The sooner order is established the sooner reconstruction can start and refugees can go home.  Assad would show his appreciation with some contracts for Total and other French companies.  Be on the winning side, not the loser.

Is this forum going to tolerate this display of hate speech, apology of genocide and plain insanity? Just for me to know what kind of place I am in:

I dont think corridors are good. Nobody should be let out. Those who are there, are there because they want to be there. By allowing them alive, you just rise the next generation of terrorists.

Beside that, its not just the fighters. All there must suffer. They must be broken. Men, women and children as well.

Russia may not have that much experience with colonies, but you better learn fast. You can only hold Syria, when you wiped out any oppossition. Syria is chaos. And the ally of order is fear.

You can use whatever you want. Just do it not in public. I have no problem with abc weapons. What i care for is PR.

What exactly does it explain? I want that any islamist presence in Syria gets crushed. Well ...islamism...i hate islam in general but hey i take what i get.

There is going to be no western support for Russia in Syria, I think we can let the notion "the west will help Russia In Syria" go.

No Syrians that are giving in Germany or any other western country are going to return to Syria. The west is slowly being destroyed(this is a topic for another time and another thread.)

Syria is really not that costly for Russia, Russia just has a small force in Syria and there aren't many cost related to that, there are costs for humanitarian efforts. The retirement issue was more domestic than foreign.

There are already migrants and terrorists among the migrants that are going to Europe and France, this will not stop.

I don't think that Russia will treat Syria as coloniel, this just isn't in Russian interests.